Trade Deadline Rumors and Trades

[El Chapo Jr]

Apparently the Von Miller syndrome is running rampant.

Do you mean people scared to pull the trigger on a trade cuz he left us in FA? Honestly just asking cuz I'm curious.

 

[MachS]

The way the Rams are approaching this concerns me. It seems to insinuate they are not certain Akers is done. This is unlike them. If you're not sure then play him more until you know. Then if he's not the same guy you cut him.

If we cant trade him he'll ultimately be cut like Gurley was. The relationship cannot be repaired at this point. All the 'possibility of him coming back' is coach talk bullshit by McVay trying to salvage the value we can from him. But the problem is he has no value to teams and they likely will just look at how we handled a similar situation with Gurley in which we ultimately released him. We're probably asking for like a 6th or 7th rounder in a future year, which is as low as an ask can be, and teams are still probably hesitant.

 

[Merlin]

If we cant trade him he'll ultimately be cut like Gurley was. The relationship cannot be repaired at this point. All the 'possibility of him coming back' is coach talk bullshit by McVay trying to salvage the value we can from him. But the problem is he has no value to teams and they likely will just look at how we handled a similar situation with Gurley in which we ultimately released him. We're probably asking for like a 6th or 7th rounder in a future year, which is as low as an ask can be, and teams are still probably hesitant.

Then why hold on to him. The Rams do not fuck around with guys they think are done. They cut them. This one feels different to me.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

The way the Rams are approaching this concerns me. It seems to insinuate they are not certain Akers is done. This is unlike them. If you're not sure then play him more until you know. Then if he's not the same guy you cut him.


But be honest here River the RB room is not good for the here and now either. And since we're on the eve of a massive divisional game that will help determine whether we are in things this year, the complete lack of threat from this backfield is a problem. And has been a problem.

Current depth chart is Henderson > Brown > Akers. The first two RBs are the precise same two who in 2018 who could not handle the load and resulted in us needing to go get Anderson. Because Gurley was going through all that knee pain shit and we needed someone to step up. This is why I know Henderson is a mirage. This is how I know we're up shit creek if Akers is done. This is how I feel like I'm on crazy pills when it's 4 years later and it's the exact same problems.

Are we in things this year as far as the Rams are concerned? Because if we are it seems to me that they're behind the 8 ball in getting another back in here to handle shit. It really pisses me off man. And one of the biggest games right in our face when we need help from that backfield to beat the 9ers this should be a done deal.

McVay may just be throwing that out there so the Rams don’t look desperate to trade him.

 

[Riverumbbq]

The way the Rams are approaching this concerns me. It seems to insinuate they are not certain Akers is done. This is unlike them. If you're not sure then play him more until you know. Then if he's not the same guy you cut him.


But be honest here River the RB room is not good for the here and now either. And since we're on the eve of a massive divisional game that will help determine whether we are in things this year, the complete lack of threat from this backfield is a problem. And has been a problem.

Current depth chart is Henderson > Brown > Akers. The first two RBs are the precise same two who in 2018 who could not handle the load and resulted in us needing to go get Anderson. Because Gurley was going through all that knee pain shit and we needed someone to step up. This is why I know Henderson is a mirage. This is how I know we're up shit creek if Akers is done. This is how I feel like I'm on crazy pills when it's 4 years later and it's the exact same problems.

Are we in things this year as far as the Rams are concerned? Because if we are it seems to me that they're behind the 8 ball in getting another back in here to handle shit. It really pisses me off man. And one of the biggest games right in our face when we need help from that backfield to beat the 9ers this should be a done deal.

I'm honest about wanting a RB who is likely much less expensive, for now and his future contract, my picks are D'Ernest Johnson now and a 3'rd rounder in next years draft. Our 2023 draft room will consist of Williams, Johnson & a solid draft pick.
If we are paying for Hunt, where does that leave our CAP and draft picks for next season. If you believe Hunt is enough to get us to the Super Bowl this year, that's one thing, but I believe it's going to take far more than that. jmo.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Gotta take a risk somewhere. That's how we won it all last year.

So you put Hunt in the same category as Von Miller & OBj, even with our current OL situation ?

 

[Merlin]

I'm honest about wanting a RB who is likely much less expensive, for now and his future contract, my pick is D'Ernest Johnson now and a 3'rd rounder in next years draft. Our 2023 draft room will consist of Williams, Johnson & a solid draft pick.
If we are paying for Hunt, where does that leave our CAP and draft picks for next season. If you believe Hunt is enough to get us to the Super Bowl this year, that's one thing, but I believe it's going to take far more than that. jmo.

I think Hunt is a great way to take a shot. What I don't know is if the Rams think they're really in it. Also I don't know what they think about Hunt, as they undoubtedly know a lot of background we don't get. And lastly I doubt they agree that RB is an issue.

Which is most infuriating of all. Because they won it all without a ground game. So now I feel petty arguing this but it's my take no matter how unpopular it might be.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

So you put Hunt in the same category as Von Miller & OBj, even with our current OL situation ?

Hunt is a supremely talented back and if you give him that big ass hole that Cam missed, I'm betting he's making a huge play. He can catch the ball and be a mismatch there and he can pass block so yes, he can have a huge impact on our offense. Our o-line isn't getting reinforcements thru trade but rather thru our injured ones getting healthy. Our offense has been offensive so we need weapons. I'm not comparing him to different positions since they all have different impacts on the team dynamic because they actually play different positions.

 

[PARAM]

We have been pretty lucky with injuries in the past not so much this year. Depending on the player I'm ok with doing what it takes to win now that the core is on tact.

Won't help much to have another year go by and everyone of the core high paid Rams are rendered a little less useful or one of them get injured.

Also no team wins a Superbowl without some sort of pass rush like ever. So

no sacks/pressures = no chance

Is the problem we don't have the pass rushers or is the problem the current defensive philosophy? Some young corners being protected by 10 yard cushions so opposing QBs have the ball out underneath in 2.1 seconds?

I am not a fan of how things ended up but we probably don't win against the niners without him and so on.

There's no telling. 100% speculation. I believe he helped but was it such a drastic difference? We had more sacks per game before Miller arrived than after.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Hunt is a supremely talented back and if you give him that big ass hole that Cam missed, I'm betting he's making a huge play. He can catch the ball and be a mismatch there and he can pass block so yes, he can have a huge impact on our offense. Our o-line isn't getting reinforcements thru trade but rather thru our injured ones getting healthy. Our offense has been offensive so we need weapons. I'm not comparing him to different positions since they all have different impacts on the team dynamic because they actually play different positions.

I'm not denying Hunt's talent, but I also don't want to waste more draft picks on what may be a short rental. Even with a few returning OL, we are far from calling this unit a team strength. A lesser known player which costs less and doesn't suck up as much CAP, allowing us to still make a play for OBj in late November/early December would still be my first choice. jmo.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I'm not denying Hunt's talent, but I also don't want to waste more draft picks on what may be a short rental. Even with a few returning OL, we are far from calling this unit a team strength. A lesser known player which costs less and doesn't suck up as much CAP, allowing us to still make a play for OBj in late November/early December would still be my first choice. jmo.

No worries, I get where you're coming from. I want Hunt really bad but if it's something that's going to cost an arm and a leg, it's not worth it. To me, Hunt is a special type of running back. Not every play is blocked perfectly and he's a type that can break tackles or outrun defenders because of his special athletic abilities aka dude is a beast. I honestly think we could entice OBJ to look at our team as more attractive if he sees that we now have Hunt as a weapon as well. In the end, all the numbers have to work out for this to be a possibility. That's where I would trust McVay and Snead to make it work.

 

[PARAM]

Do you mean people scared to pull the trigger on a trade cuz he left us in FA? Honestly just asking cuz I'm curious.

Not at all. I meant the Von Miller syndrome as in "we need an edge rusher and many of our problems are solved". Von Miller was more than just an edge rusher who played good run D. He helped make AD a vocal leader. There aren't many guys of that caliber available and none of them are traded for peanuts. My point was, if we can get Von Miller, I'm all in on acquiring an edge rusher. Or somebody comparable. ***Any names?

***I mean any who are realistically available.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Not at all. I meant the Von Miller syndrome as in "we need an edge rusher and many of our problems are solved". Von Miller was more than just an edge rusher who played good run D. He helped make AD a vocal leader. There aren't many guys of that caliber available and none of them are traded for peanuts. My point was, if we can get Von Miller, I'm all in on acquiring an edge rusher. Or somebody comparable. Any names?

Oh I see lol.....yeah I'm not sure any are available as well. I mean Chubb to me is a Von Miller lite but with a worrisome injury history. I'm guessing if we want that type of player, it'd take a godfather type deal of players and picks which I'm sure we can't and won't do. I think we should shore up the edge if we can at a reasonable price but if teams are asking for the moon, then it may be time to go after an impactful player at another position (at a possible lower cost) such as RB.

 

[BuffaloRam]

I sometimes get the feeling that it’s 2000 all over again… but I’m not worried - we have a better owner, FO and coach

 

[payote75]

Is the problem we don't have the pass rushers or is the problem the current defensive philosophy? Some young corners being protected by 10 yard cushions so opposing QBs have the ball out underneath in 2.1 seconds?

There's no telling. 100% speculation. I believe he helped but was it such a drastic difference? We had more sacks per game before Miller arrived than after.

Just finished listening to Jourdans and Hammond's pod cast I suggest you take a listen it's insightful.


View: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/11-personnel-a-show-about-the-los-angeles-rams/id1477535034?i=1000583733266

 

[BonifayRam]

Until Further Notice? Sean McVay Discusses Ongoing Rams-Cam Akers Trade Talks​

https://www.kansas.com/sports/nfl/article267801767.html

Rams Included Cam Akers In Christian McCaffrey Proposal; Broncos, Eagles Made Offers

It took four picks for the 49ers to pry Christian McCaffrey from the Panthers. No strangers to exiting trade or …

www.profootballrumors.com

 

[LouisvilleRam]

Who else is looking for RB help? Jets Baltimore, Miami?

 

[Mackeyser]

The thing about D’Ernest Johnson is that the Browns aren’t listening to trades for him. Seems they’ve made clear that Hunt is the one available.

So, it’s Hunt or nothing from them

i think they’re gonna try to get DE Chubb from Denver, but really want to be able to resign OBJ, so future money is a question. That’s why I think they went so hard after Brian Burns

the backlash against trading with us is that teams see our interest and wonder “what are we missing?”

that’s why I have a feeling we end up getting nothing done. I hope I’m wrong about that

 

[Riverumbbq]

The thing about D’Ernest Johnson is that the Browns aren’t listening to trades for him. Seems they’ve made clear that Hunt is the one available.

So, it’s Hunt or nothing from them

i think they’re gonna try to get DE Chubb from Denver, but really want to be able to resign OBJ, so future money is a question. That’s why I think they went so hard after Brian Burns

the backlash against trading with us is that teams see our interest and wonder “what are we missing?”

that’s why I have a feeling we end up getting nothing done. I hope I’m wrong about that

I'm not going to sweat any of this until whatever time the Trade Deadline ends next Tuesday, we're still over a week away with another weekend of games ahead of us. There will be more injuries and teams will begin changing their thoughts on value as the deadline starts to get more real. jmo.

 

[majrleaged]

I don't understand this logic when over the last 4 games the Rams D has allowed 12, 17, 16 and 3 points. That's an average of 12 PPG and yet we're 2-2 in those 4 games. I guess if we stand pat and roll with the offense we have been so far in 2022, getting as close to a single digit average on defense should be the aim.

Haven't faced much in the way of QBs. You need to be in the face of the best QBs and we are about to see a few.