Torry Holt snubbed again HOF

[Elmgrovegnome]

Holt is getting screwed.


Turner - 9 sacks, 56 tackles, 8 TFLs, 16 QB hits. Snap count 697

Anderson - 7 sacks, 45 tackles, 22 QB hits. Snap count 696

Turners season from the DT position was much more impressive, than Anderson rushing from the edge.

 

[dieterbrock]

At least they got the coach of the year right
Making the playoffs while starting 5 different qb’s is out of this world.

 

[Kupped]

One thing is clear from this week.. Puka is absolutely a legit, tier-one NFL star already.

Kid is gonna be swimming in endorsement $$$

 

[Q729]

Fuckin bullshit you got Johnson in before Torry. I mean God damn 8 straight seasons 1000+ yards receiving! Definitely getting punished for being on a prolific offense. If anything it should be a plus getting all those yards with all the other weapons around him.

 

[dang]

Hester was a stud returner for a couple years. Then he settled into being a very good returner. I believe he had another phenomenal year mid-career. Very impressive but IMO nowhere near what Holt achieved.

 

[dieterbrock]

Another thing on Holt, 2003 was basically the end of the GSOT "Era" where Holt could be perceived as a spoke in the wheel, but from 2004-2007 he averaged about 1,250 yards and 9 TD per season. Thus playing with the QB likes of a Broken down Bulger, Wish version of Chris Chandler, Jaime Martin, Fitz-Harvard, Gus "Head Butt" Frerotte and Brock "Cool name, lousy QB" Berlin throwing him the ball

On a side note, I dont have an issue with Hester getting in for his KR/PR, but Johnson just grinds my gears.

 

[AZRams]

View: https://x.com/JKBOGEN/status/1755788083528708155?s=20


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[Merlin]

Another thing on Holt, 2003 was basically the end of the GSOT "Era" where Holt could be perceived as a spoke in the wheel, but from 2004-2007 he averaged about 1,250 yards and 9 TD per season. Thus playing with the QB likes of a Broken down Bulger, Wish version of Chris Chandler, Jaime Martin, Fitz-Harvard, Gus "Head Butt" Frerotte and Brock "Cool name, lousy QB" Berlin throwing him the ball

On a side note, I dont have an issue with Hester getting in for his KR/PR, but Johnson just grinds my gears.

Yeah I was looking at this a bit more this morning and I am even more pissed off than I was yesterday about it. Tired of seeing Torry get shit on as if he was some fucking two bit accessory in the GSoT. It is maddening.

 

[Tano]

An article just posted the best receiver for each team ever and guess who was the top all time receiver in this author's opinion >> Holt

 

[AvengerRam]

View: https://x.com/JKBOGEN/status/1755788083528708155?s=20


Part of an over-arching theme...

 

[RamDino]

I'm a bit shocked that Andre Johnson was considered a hall-of-famer before Torry Holt. I just compared their stats and while similar... Holt won a super bowl and caught a big TD pass in that game. Holt better get in next year or I'm gonna do... something! -lol.

And Devin Hester? Really? Yeah.. he was a great return man but 20 TD's in his career? Many players did better than that in 1 season.

And speaking of Patrick Willis... Navarro Bowman was better.

Lastly, sad to see Mongo suffering from ALS.

 

[Psycho_X]

Lastly, sad to see Mongo suffering from ALS.

Seeing that video of him during his bust reveal was heartbreaking. To go from the hulk of a man that he was to what he is now is depressing.

 

[Merlin]

Hester was a stud returner for a couple years. Then he settled into being a very good returner. I believe he had another phenomenal year mid-career. Very impressive but IMO nowhere near what Holt achieved.

Yeah he is not in Holt's class as a wideout. Never was. Never will be. This had more to do with him being on a different team, and that natural need to feel like they need to spread the wealth, than going with merit. Because by merit Holt would already be in.

This type of thinking is always counterproductive to making the right decision. WR is the worst position to play in order to get into the Hall. But Holt is one of those players who should bypass that bullshit. The moment Owens got in was when it became time for Holt to get his jacket.

 

[bwdenverram]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

You realize only 4 of those years were with Warner right? and he also shared the field with Faulk and Bruce. Think about how hard it is to have 6 straight 1300 yard seasons with the other talent they had. I think is says MORE, not less.

Holt played with the RAMS 99-2008
Warner 98-2003

Bulger was no HOF QB and he still put up numbers.. Let's give the guy the respect he deserves

 

[Tumak61]

I think Holt started out good, but the catch and tackle yourself routine left a lot of yards on the field. No way Vermeil would have stood for that. I think statistics aside Holt falls short of being a hall of famer,.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I think Holt started out good, but the catch and tackle yourself routine left a lot of yards on the field. No way Vermeil would have stood for that. I think statistics aside Holt falls short of being a hall of famer,.

I have to admit it used to drive me bat shit crazy seeing Ike and Holt do that. Meanwhile Steve Smith was a td machine with massive yac, always a danger to score whenever he touched the ball.

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[tempests]

but the catch and tackle yourself routine left a lot of yards on the field.

Yeah, Marvin Harrison would do that too. And Peyton Manning would dive to the ground whenever he felt pressure in the pocket. Avoid the big hit and live to play another down.

People always made too much of it. For such a small, thin legged receiver, Bruce's longevity was due to the fact he never seemed to get hit cleanly.

 

[Tumak61]

Yeah, Marvin Harrison would do that too. And Peyton Manning would dive to the ground whenever he felt pressure in the pocket. Avoid the big hit and live to play another down.

People always made too much of it. For such a small, thin legged receiver, Bruce's longevity was due to the fact he never seemed to get hit cleanly.

And yet Everett was vilified for the same thing. Go figure.

 

[Tano]

And yet Everett was vilified for the same thing. Go figure.

Everett's was in the playoffs. Did Manning ever do that in the playoffs?

Honest question.

 

[hotanez]

Everett's was in the playoffs. Did Manning ever do that in the playoffs?

Honest question.

I agree with Tano and I might be mistaken but while Manning did it to protect himself from a big hit, Everett was from a ghost sack. Big difference in my opinion.