Torry Holt snubbed again HOF

[Corbin]

Finalists for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2024 revealed

The Pro Football Hall of Fame revealed the modern-era finalists for the Class of 2024 on Wednesday.

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Finalists for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2024 revealed​

The Pro Football Hall of Fame revealed its modern-era finalists for the Class of 2024 on Wednesday, highlighted by two standouts in their first year of eligibility: tight end Antonio Gates and defensive end Julius Peppers.
The 2024 modern-era player finalists with their positions, years and teams, as announced on NFL Network:

• Eric Allen, DB -- 1988-1994 Philadelphia Eagles, 1995-1997 New Orleans Saints, 1998-2001 Oakland Raiders
• Jared Allen, DE – 2004-2007 Kansas City Chiefs, 2008-2013 Minnesota Vikings, 2014-2015 Chicago Bears, 2015 Carolina Panthers
• Willie Anderson, OT -- 1996-2007 Cincinnati Bengals, 2008 Baltimore Ravens
• Jahri Evans, OL -- 2006-2016 New Orleans Saints, 2017 Green Bay Packers
• Dwight Freeney, DE -- 2002-2012 Indianapolis Colts, 2013-14 San Diego Chargers, 2015 Arizona Cardinals, 2016 Atlanta Falcons, 2017 Detroit Lions, 2017 Seattle Seahawks
• Antonio Gates, TE -- 2003-2018 San Diego/Los Angeles Chargers
• Rodney Harrison, DB -- 1994-2002 San Diego Chargers, 2003-2008 New England Patriots
• Devin Hester, PR/KR/WR -- 2006-2013 Chicago Bears, 2014-2015 Atlanta Falcons, 2016 Baltimore Ravens, 2016 Seattle Seahawks
• Torry Holt, WR -- 1999-2008 St. Louis Rams, 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars
• Andre Johnson, WR -- 2003-2014 Houston Texans, 2015 Indianapolis Colts, 2016 Tennessee Titans
• Julius Peppers, DE -- 2002-2009/2017-2018 Carolina Panthers, 2010-2013 Chicago Bears, 2014-2016 Green Bay Packers
• Fred Taylor, RB -- 1998-2008 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2009-2010 New England Patriots
• Reggie Wayne, WR -- 2001-2014 Indianapolis Colts
• Patrick Willis, LB -- 2007-2014 San Francisco 49ers
• Darren Woodson, S -- 1992-2003 Dallas Cowboys

The modern-era player finalists are determined by a vote of the Hall's Selection Committee, a process that began with 173 nominees announced in September. That group of nominees was trimmed to 25 semifinalists in November.
In addition to the modern-era finalists will be senior finalists Randy Gradishar, Steve McMichael and Art Powell, and contributor/coach finalist Buddy Parker.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2024 will be inducted during NFL Honors, which takes place at 9 p.m. ET on Thursday, Feb. 8, and airs on CBS, NFL Network and streams on Paramount+ and NFL+.

 

[Memento]

Jahri Evans over S-Jax. That's the biggest fucking joke I've ever seen.

 

[Merlin]

Hopefully this is the year for him.

 

[FrantikRam]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Roman Gabriel has got to be the biggest snub in the history of the hall. https://www.nfl.com/news/pro-football-hall-of-fame-60-semifinalists-class-of-2024-senior-coach

 

[OldSchool]

It's honestly a crime that Holt isn't in the HoF yet.

 

[JBRam77]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

Ellard? Yes he should be in as well but the log jam at WR is insane. Holt was a key piece in arguably the most explosive and exciting offense of all-time. All the other key pieces in that offense were elected already. Its time.

 

[HitStick]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

It’s not Holts fault he played with a HOF QB. That shouldn’t count against him.

 

[Ramlock]

Eddie Meador has better credentials than Rodney Harrison and the other Safeties…it’s time.

 

[Loyal]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

Holt's career was better.

 

[Merlin]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

Holt was also playing with other legit receiving weapons. There's only one ball. His greatness created volume.

Ellard is a fine Ram so don't want to talk bad about him but he is not a comparison to Holt. Night and day.

 

[Corbin]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

I don't know how I know Holt's stats but I do lol

But let's look at it this way if we are only going by stats

Player A:
9 Seasons, 11619 yards, 83 TD's, No super Bowl Appearances, played with a eventually winning SB QB, 6x Pro Bowl, 3x All Pro, HOF 2010's All Decade Team

Player B:
11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, 7x pro bowls, 1x All Pro
HOF 2000's All Decade Team



Player A is in the HOF First Ballot.

NFL records​

On October 15th, 2006, Holt became the fastest player in NFL history to reach 10,000 receiving yards, doing so in the sixth game of his eighth season. Holt is also the fastest Player in NFL History to reach 11,000 receiving yards.

• Consecutive seasons with at least 1,300 yards receiving (6).
• Consecutive seasons with 90+ receptions (6).
• Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Tyrek Hill, Justin Jefferson are the only receivers with multiple 1,600 yard receiving seasons.

At his retirement, Holt is first all time in NFL history in receiving yards per game with an 84.7 yards per game average. He is now 9th.

 

[Steve808]

For what it's worth, I had to LOL now that the brock purdy HOF conversation is over for now.

If I'm not mistaken, Purdy's numbers and Jimmy G's are almost identical for the number of games played so far. The only difference, IMO, is that Purdy has more talent to work with.

 

[RamUK]

Holt was also playing with other legit receiving weapons. There's only one ball. His greatness created volume.

Ellard is a fine Ram so don't want to talk bad about him but he is not a comparison to Holt. Night and day.

Exactly. Imagine how many yards Holt would have got if he'd not had Bruce opposite him but an obvious #2.

Isn't Holt the only player to ever have 7 consecutive 1,300 yard seasons? Going from memory so I could be imagining that rather weird stat.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

No fuckin way Holt shouldn't be in already. @FrantikRam is tripping. If he doesn't get in, someone needs to catch an epic beat down. Holt is a legend.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Holt has the most receiving yards in the first 7 years of a player's career in the history of the nfl.

The only thing that kills him is the lack of tds. But when Marshall Faulk is on your team there are not many of those on offer for other players.

Plus he had bulger as his qb for half that time and he had trouble throwing more than 1 td pass per game.

Most Receiving Yards First 7 Seasons | StatMuse

Torry Holt had the most yards on receptions by a player in his first 7 seasons, with 9,487 yards.

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[tempests]

I'm not sure he deserves it honestly....and I was a huge Holt fan.

Here's a blind comparison for you:

Player A:

11 seasons, 13382 yards, 74 TDs, one Super Bowl win, played with hall of fame QB, one first team all pro, six pro bowls

Player B:

16 seasons, 13777 yards, 65 TDs, no Super Bowl win, played with mediocre QBs, two first team all pros, three pro bowls



Player B also played an era prior to Player B, and the first five years on a pretty run heavy team.

Ellard was top 5 all time in catches and receiving yards when he retired. He deserved better than to have HOF voters ignore his career completely like they did for 20 years.

That doesn't mean the same should happen to Holt. Objectively he had a Hall of Fame career and should be enshrined.

 

[Antonius]

That whole thing about Holt only having numbers because of the hall of fame quarterback is so overblown.

Warner and Holt had what, three solid seasons playing together? Warner missed time in 2000, and was playing poorly in 2002 before Bulger took over. But Bulger did miss a lot of time too, and as much as I like him he’s not a HOF candidate. And there was a whole lot of Jaime Martins, Ryan Fitzpatricks and old Trent Greens mixed in there while Holt still did his thing.

 

[Angry Ram]

Of that list...

Willie Anderson
Antonio Gates
Devin Hester
Julius Peppers
Torry Holt
Darren Woodsen

 

[tempests]

So they're announcing the HOF class tonight. Word is that three Bears players got inducted which if true, doesn't leave much room for Torry.