Top Ten Rams Quarterbacks All Time

[Ground Chuck]

What about John Hadl?
He didn’t make anybody’s list?

…but. Bradford does? Not one winning season as a Ram.

I did mention Hadl and wanted to put him on the list but he was there for such a short period of time. Look in the #10 Harris listing. Pretty impressive record!

 

[Mojo Ram]

Putting Bulger ahead of Stafford is insanity.

Agreed.

But I submit that putting Goff ahead of Bulger is more insanity.

My list post 1978. The QB’s I can rate with confidence.
Wins, big games, moxie, clutch, leadership, toughness, consistency, avoiding game breaking bone head plays…

1) Warner
2) Stafford
3) Bulger
4) Everett
5) Goff
6) Ferragamo
7) Bradford
Mostly gross beyond that.

 

[fanotodd]

Yeah one and a half before being traded to GB for a bonanza of picks. He lit it up for us in 73 though before a weird playoff loss to the Cowboys.

That was the famous revenge game after Hadl connected with Jackson for 4(?) TDs in the regular season win.

 

[Ground Chuck]

But I submit that putting Goff ahead of Bulger is more insanity.

And I submit that your insanity plea has been rejected. More like hyperbole.

I did consider Bulger higher than 8 and Goff I REALLY wanted to put lower. But I had to put feelings aside and look at the numbers.

Though wins and losses are not necessarily a great gauge all of the time, I did have to consider that Goff won 1 more game in 26 less starts than Bulger, even with that crappy 0-7 under Fisher. (See below)

Bulger and Everett were the only two on the list with sub-.500 records. Again, they can’t be totally blamed, but they played their part. Just making top 10 all time when you started almost 100 games and lost more than you won says you must have been pretty good.

And Goff did take the Rams to the Super Bowl so I begrudgingly gave him credit for that. My original list had Bulger at 7th and Goff at 9th behind Ferragamo as well.

Player………..Starts………..W/L…………..Title Games-Super Bowls/wins

Warner……….50……………35-15 (.700)………..2/1
Van Brocklin.65…………..42-20-3 (.669)………2/1
Stafford……..57…………….34-23 (.596)………..1/1
Waterfield….22……………14-8 (.636)…………..2/2
Gabriel……..119……………74-39 (.647)…………0/0
Everett……..105……………46-59 (.438)…………0/0
Goff…………..69…………….42-27 (.609)………….1/0
Ferragamo..44…………….26-18 (.591)…………..1/0
Bulger………95…………….41-54 (.432)…………..0/0
Harris……….27…………….21-6 (.778)……………0/0

So bite me @Mojo Ram

No. Seriously, though, given all of this, I would take prime Bulger over prime Goff in a heartbeat in the clutch. I do get your point. But that wasn’t the task of the list. Cheers bro

 

[PARAM]

Here's a question. What do the RAMS think? Indicators?
#7 is retired. #25 and #11 are not.
#28 and #80 are retired; #13 is not.

But then I believe #76 should be retired, as well as #65. When OP arrived, the Rams turnaround had begun. When Mack was drafted, the Rams started to win. To add, Mack played 13 years and didn't miss a game.

And we ALL know #99 is going to be retired.....soon.

 

[Soul Surfer]

You have me sitting in anticipation as you provide your number 10 QB

I'm thinking it's going to be Garoppolo.

 

[Soul Surfer]

10. James Harris- (27 starts 21-6 .778) With apologies to John Hadl (Not enough games -19 starts 15-4 .789) and Pat Haden (I just couldn't -55 starts 35-19) James Harris was one of the first black starting quarterbacks (I hate that label) when it truly was groundbreaking and came with a lot of pressure. He was a good leader, steady and deserves #10 on this list.

First black quarterback to win a playoff game in 1974. (First playoff win for the Rams since 1951).

First black quarterback to start the season as a starter in 1975.

Led the Rams to two NFC West titles, '74 and '75.

Had a perfect passer rating for a 1974 Rams game.

Tied for highest passer rating in the league in 1976.

Pro Bowl MVP in 1974.

A real ground breaker whose career ended because of injuries.

 

[Mojo Ram]

FWIW I’ve got Everett and Goff pretty close at #4 and #5 respectively.

And there’s a sizable gulf between Stafford and Bulger at #2 and #3

Warner and Stafford are the only two elite guys on my list.

 

[Mojo Ram]

No. Seriously, though, given all of this, I would take prime Bulger over prime Goff in a heartbeat in the clutch. I do get your point. But that wasn’t the task of the list. Cheers bro

What was the task of the list then? If it was top 10 just my the numbers, I didn’t follow that. I may have missed the point.

My list is best Rams QB’s(in my lifetime). Put them on the field in a vacuum and simply rate them based on their ability. I watched these guys play. I didn’t even look at the numbers.

Kinda like picking women at a brothel. I don’t want a spreadsheet on their measurements, race and umm…history. The eye test will do just fine thank you.

Never done that btw. Anyone? Top 10 escort list. Nevermind.

 

[den-the-coach]

First black quarterback to win a playoff game in 1974. (First playoff win for the Rams since 1951).

First black quarterback to start the season as a starter in 1975.

Led the Rams to two NFC West titles, '74 and '75.

Had a perfect passer rating for a 1974 Rams game.

Tied for highest passer rating in the league in 1976.

Pro Bowl MVP in 1974.

A real ground breaker whose career ended because of injuries.

Quite a few ups and downs with Harris. The NFC Championship game in 1975 and the first game of the year that year in Dallas, both embarrassing loses, where Harris did not play well. Also Knox never gave Harris the ability to change the play or audible and it is too bad because Harris was very smart and many times, he felt changing the play would have made the difference.

Harris in an article talked about the good and the bad with his experience with the Rams. I remember back then when I was 9 (1975) or 10 in 1976 an Uncle who owned a business and still does to this day, came up to me and said the Rams will never win with a black QB. I was astonished and if I told my Uncle this today, he would most likely not recall it as he done great things in the community for all people and maybe just back then, it was a blip, but I remember having that discussion with him more than once and actually asking, what does it matter?

Rams owner Carroll Rosenbloom was beloved by players, but he said, playing QB is hard enough in the NFL, QB's should not have to answer race questions. IMO, the Rams did give Harris the chance, but they should have supported him better by giving him the ability to audible and being clear that he was their QB regardless of having a vertically challenged Rhode Scholar from USC.

 

[Ground Chuck]

What was the task of the list then? If it was top 10 just my the numbers, I didn’t follow that. I may have missed the point.

My list is best Rams QB’s(in my lifetime). Put them on the field in a vacuum and simply rate them based on their ability. I watched these guys play. I didn’t even look at the numbers.

It’s offseason. I’m just having some fun. there was no point. It was a list. My opinion. That’s all. even my jabs at you were in fun. I respect your take (except the brothel stuff. All them chicks got the clap. I pick none)

I never saw Van Brocklin, Waterfield, barely remember Gabriel and only with the Eagles, vaguely remember seeing Hadl. Harris was the first QB I remember well. So yeah. I had to rely on film I’ve seen, and accomplishments, and numbers a bit. It was that kind of list. But the “eye test” was a huge part.

The eye test is why Everett sank so low. I was at the 1989 NFCCG in my Rams gear at Candlestick. Humiliating. Shouldn’t he be #1, since his stats are greater than the rest? hell no. Shouldn’t your eye test put Case Keenum or Baker Mayfield ahead of some of these guys? Bulger had some great years, and some not-so-great. What happened there? Maybe he belongs ahead of Goff, and Everett Though. Fun to debate in the off-season. Everyone sees things a little different.

Edit: By the way to @den-the-coach point, how much did coaching affect the success of these guys? As much as I jest with my Avatar, and signature line, how much could Knox and management have held back Harris, for example? Was Bulger, or Warner turned loose to maximaize their potential with Martz? How would they have done under George Allen, for example?

Would Goff have just been a typical bust if he were drafted by the Brown Stains? (Yes) A lot of the success of these guys and probably the way they are seen historically, relies on coaching and surrounding personnel.

I would loved to have seen Vincent Ferragamo (Sorry Den, you’ll have to fill me in as to his middle name) under Sean McVay.