Top Secret Gurley Knee Info Revealed Here!!!

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RamFan503

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OK. Now that I got your attention.....

This will be the catch all thread for any news about Todd Gurley's health and status for the coming year.

From this point forward, we will simply delete any new threads about the subject that do not specifically and non-speculatively define the status of Gurley's knee. This includes any and all reporters, twitter handles, bloggers, etc... writing stories about it and/or relating any second hand information.

I am also going to lock the other threads and encourage any discussion to just happen here. Please do not think it's funny to start a new thread to be cute. Let's all just hope for the best for our All Pro running back and wait for real information.

In the mean time, feel free to discuss the subject in this thread. TG is a very important piece to our team and we in no way intend to stifle discussion about him.

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You're killin' me, Stu! How will I get that thrill of posting a new thread with ,minutely different info on Gurley's knee AND get the ROD fame of starting a 1000 page thread?! @RamFan503
 

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Lol, good call mods, and love the thread title.

Although I did hear that the Rams are genuinely concerned that there might be nothing to worry about
 

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Thank-you, this message board was begining to get the feel of a soap opera with the creation of all this drama. Reminded me of a bunch of little bitches trying to stir things up.
 

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OK lets start the diagnosis via the media and my own eyes with he has osteoarthritis.:rimshot:
 

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I have total faith in the Rams. Call me blind, call me a homer, but I think that Gurley proves everyone wrong and dominates in the regular season. And if we have to call on Brown, Henderson, and Kelly? We call on them. (Yes, I think John Kelly makes the roster as a fourth running back, while Justin Davis is cut.)
 

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I have total faith in the Rams. Call me blind, call me a homer, but I think that Gurley proves everyone wrong and dominates in the regular season. And if we have to call on Brown, Henderson, and Kelly? We call on them. (Yes, I think John Kelly makes the roster as a fourth running back, while Justin Davis is cut.)

Agree! Here's my own top secret, eyes only analysis of Gurley's knee condition.

The Rams are being candid about Gurley's knee and, yes, he will return to play at top form again, just maybe not for as many snaps in a year. The Rams will have to protect him more to maintain that form.

My view is influenced by having had a blown out knee and an ACL repair as well as a couple of joint replacements later on.

I find it perfectly credible to believe that after an ACL injury and repair Gurley could have "lingering effects," "wear and tear", or yes even "arthritis." These are just common terms for generic consequences of serious knee injuries and surgery. The doctors often can't ascribe them to any specific cause. In effect, just a painful or swollen knee at times. These are also typically intermittent and unpredictable. They usually go away with some rest.

Even less surprising is that a season of being a workhorse NFL running back might cause some of these generic symptoms to manifest themselves.

None of this means that Gurley has some new structural problem or condition that the Rams are hiding. They are saying there is no such new medical condition and I believe them. It's just that your knee will never be quite the same after a major injury and surgery, and especially not if you're putting high stress and pounding on it for a full season as an NFL running back.

Having seen Gurley limited by knee pain late in the year the Rams will now manage his training and playing time differently to try to avoid this. They have also drafted another running back who fits the zone scheme perfectly and who together with Brown should get plenty of snaps.

My bottom line is that I think this should work and Gurley will be fine.
 

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Report: Rams reducing Gurley's role in 2019
Reuters 8 hours ago

All-Pro Todd Gurley likely won't be the workhorse out of the backfield for the Los Angeles Rams this season.

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported that the Rams are going to incorporate a number of running backs into the game in 2019, including Darrell Henderson, their third-round draft pick in April.

"The days of Todd Gurley just being the straight-up, every-down bell cow are probably over, just based on his knee, his age, the position, the amount of carries he's had." Rapoport said. ."..This is a team that is clearly ready to spread the ball around."

Gurley, entering his fifth season, has carried the ball an average of 260.5 times in each of his first four seasons. In 2018, he missed the final two games of the regular season but still ran 256 times - good for fourth in the NFL. He turns 25 in August.

The running back saw limited action in the NFC championship game and in Super Bowl LIII, carrying the ball just 15 times combined. He hasn't participated in on-field workouts during offseason practices.

"Of course, Gurley's knee, the wear and tear on that knee, the surgically repaired knee, is something that everyone knows has been concerning to the team for some time," Rapoport said. "All they really want is for Gurley to come back when the season begins when it's really time to go to be 100 percent. What they don't want is to have all those questions they had leading up the Super Bowl repeat before Week 1."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-rams-reducing-gurleys-role-143233206.html
 

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First off, I'd say that regardless of Gurley's health status, it was probably a given they would need to reduce his work load and no doubt would have been and likely were looking to find another running option to take some of his carries. With Malcom being similar in style, that wasn't the option they were looking for.

Second, these articles aren't some great epiphany. They seem to be stating the obvious while conjecturing on his health status.
 

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ssrushing-tandems-eagles-wise-to-extend-wentz
The buzz around Todd Gurley no longer being the Los Angeles Rams' bell-cow back -- as reported byNFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport and further supported by colleague Maurice Jones-Drew -- will continue to spark debate over the value of running backs in the league. The 2017 Offensive Player of the Year ranks as arguably the NFL's best RB, but there are growing concerns over his durability and injury history (he was slowed by a knee issue late last season) in a league that's increasingly governed by an "RBBC" (running back by committee) approach.

The Rams drafted Gurley 10th overall in 2015, and they signed him to a four-year extension worth up to $60 million ($45 million guaranteed) last July. It's hard for me to imagine a team opting for a collection of mid-level runners over a running back like Gurley, who led the NFL with 2,093 scrimmage yards in 2017 and 21 total touchdowns in 2018. But there is a faction of the scouting community that believes in securing modest production at bargain-basement prices over paying big bucks for an ultra-talented playmaker at the position. Sure, we've seen a number of teams, including the 2018 New England Patriots (splitting carries between Sony Michel, James White and Rex Burkhead) and 2017 Philadelphia Eagles (doing the same with LeGarrette Blount, Jay Ajayi and Corey Clement) hoist the Lombardi Trophy with running back committees. But the elite running backs stand out from the crowd, and their game-changing ability often adds more juice to an offense than a committee can.

"It really comes down to the triggerman (quarterback)," an AFC pro personnel director told me this week. "The better the quarterback, the easier it is to win with a running-back-by-committee rotation. However, it is hard to win with a committee with an average quarterback. ... If you have a special runner, he can elevate a mid-level quarterback, but I don't know how much I would invest in the position in today's climate."

The executive echoes a sentiment that's been shared by other team-builders in the league. Running backs aren't viewed as essential building blocks by some coaches and scouts, particularly those who believe in using running-back-by-committee rotations without a true RB1. (In those situations, running backs are often cast in roles, with one serving as a lead back, another as a change-of-pace back and another as a short-yardage specialist.)

In the case of the Rams, it's apparent that Gurley is the straw that stirs the drink. Despite the late-season success of C.J. Anderson (who is now with the Lions) as a fill-in for Gurley, there's no denying No. 30's impact as the team's RB1. Since 2017, the team has gone 17-1 in games in which Gurley posted at least 20 touches. Moreover, No. 30 has averaged 135.3 scrimmage yards, including 88.1 rushing yards, and scored 40 total touchdowns as the focal point of the Rams' offense during that span.

Given that kind of production, I'm skeptical that we'll see a reduced role for Gurley going forward. Now, if the knee issues that manifested last season return or become even worse, it's a different story, but I'm a firm believer in investing in a talented back and riding him until the wheels fall off.

"All running backs aren't created equal," said a former NFL offensive coordinator/running backs coach. "Gurley is special because he can handle the 'must run' runs [4-minute offense, short-yardage and goal-line situations] and make plays in the passing game. I know the knee injury is a concern, but he can still be an effective workhorse in this league for a long time. The key is focusing on his touches, not his carries. ... He can easily handle 15 or so runs and around 10 passes the next few years. ... I would take care of him in practice, but he would remain the focal point of the offense as a runner-receiver. ... He's special."

Considering Gurley's production over the past few years in Rams coach Sean McVay's offense, I would expect the offensive wizard to continue to feature No. 30 as the team's RB1, despite the concerns surrounding his knee. The two-time All-Pro is too good to keep on the sidelines for extended stretches. I just don't foresee the addition of third-round pick Darrell Henderson and the continued presence of fifth-year pro Malcolm Brown greatly affecting Gurley's impact as an RB1 in 2019.
 
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