This is Why Gurley Hates the Media Right Now

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RamFan503

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I understand. What I am saying is "what do you expect".

They are going to ask questions about his knee until he doesn't deflect the question.

It would be smarter for him to stop the questions by answering them. Otherwise it won't stop.

McVay could easily say "Todd has been a workhorse for 4 straight years and we don't want to shorten his career by continuing to do that so we are easing up a little bit. We want him to be around for a long time".

The questions would stop or at least be reduced dramatically.
Nah. There would still be the speculation. McVay said TG wouldn't have a pitch count. He didn't say he wouldn't have a touch count or that there wouldn't be a plan to keep TG fresh for the end of the game.

You said yourself a couple years ago that you were worried about how much they were using him. I think you repeated it early last season as well.

Point being that because of the way last year ended, they could have come out and said just about anything and the narrative would have been about something being wrong with the knee.

Healthy, not healthy, arthritis, no arthritis, potentially defenses stepped up to take TG away with Kupp out..... regardless of what the reason was last season - I don't expect my coach to clear things up for the media just to satiate them or in hopes that they will print what you want. Why should they? To make sure other coaches are clear?

But what would be nice is if instead of only keeping to the edict, maybe ask him how it felt to rattle off a 25 yard gain and finish off the game like he did as the clutch time player he can be. Nah... We have to know about the knee ad infinitum and expect him to give a different answer and excuse for why he was only able to rack up 97 yards rushing.

So because McVay didn't insert Gurley when THEY thought he should have, he needs to answer to THEM? :rolleyes:

And because the media won't get off the narrative they have been pushing all off season and continue to in spite of TG having a good day against a pretty highly regarded defense, he shouldn't be discouraged?

I just don't see it.
 

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ROD member ~ “Omgawd they’re asking Gurley too many questions. He’s gonna be frustrated. And ABOUT HIS KNEE too! Everyone knows he’s fine, why are they being that way to him, the media is the devil!”

Random New York fan “Jesus they’re off their rockers out in LA. Chill out, snowflakes.”
 

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Some of you guys are waaaay too into this

perhsps you should take a step back or fuck off. You are taking me, this topic, and yourself waaay too seriously if you think I have ANY NARRATIVE AT ALL !!!!

First of all, learn how to spell.

Secondly, calm your tits.

Thirdly, you straight up said, "Now Brown is the touchdown maker around here." I didn't put words in your mouth so stop getting your panties in a wad just because I called you out on your very poor choice of words.
 

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They’re a prime example of what’s wrong in this issue. They’re fantasy sports focused. They and fantasy players, of which I one, are the ones creating the problem.
Personally, this is the point IMO. I am NOT a fantasy geek (no offense to fantasy geeks) :cool: so I didn't get my panties in a bunch last season when the players I "owned" didn't produce for whatever reason.

Yeah the speculation would have still been there but not at the level that it has grown to in this era of combined laziness and the need for players to maximize some fan's fantasy value.

I remember how people freaked out about TG not scoring on a couple of occasions because he had the NERVE to be team first rather than rack up their fantasy points or sports book bets.

These people don't want to know because they care about the Rams or TG.
 

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OK... Let's chill a bit here. Don't take it out on each other.

Well... Except you fantasy geeks.
 

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And before anyone goes there... I'm not saying that by asking about or wanting to know about TG's knee you don't care about the Rams or TG.
 

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First of all, learn how to spell.

Secondly, calm your tits.

Thirdly, you straight up said, "Now Brown is the touchdown maker around here." I didn't put words in your mouth so stop getting your panties in a wad just because I called you out on your very poor choice of words.
It’s a pretty fair question if one was to ponder why our TD maker was standing by during TD opportunities but as I said, I’m not questioning Gurley or his knee. I’m only saying it’s fair for others to question. Im also saying our very own members here lack objectivity and are hyper hyper sensitive.

Other than that, please forgive my misspellings. Some might understand fat fingering a phone and some might not ever mention spelling. Then again, others mention spelling. I can see spelling is important to you, and can see my posting etiquette is extremely important to @OldSchool. In the future I will try to make you both proud.
 

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Nah. There would still be the speculation. McVay said TG wouldn't have a pitch count. He didn't say he wouldn't have a touch count or that there wouldn't be a plan to keep TG fresh for the end of the game.

He seemed to have a count, and it did look like he rested him during the game and then put him in as the closer. So McVay said one thing and pretty much did the opposite LOL.

You said yourself a couple years ago that you were worried about how much they were using him. I think you repeated it early last season as well.

Yes I did. And that doesn't have much to do with this. The reason I said that is because back in 1999 after the SB win discussion about Faulk came up regarding how he was killing it. Remember he had a great year his last year in Indy, 1998, and led the NFL in yards from scrimmage (his 2nd best of his career btw) then lit the NFL up in 1999.

I was all for continuing that until he had two knee operations and his decline was noticeable.

Gurley has an issue with his knee, albeit different than what Faulk went through. So that's why I have been an advocate of lowering the workload. Gurley is a REALLY special back and I don't want to see him decline rapidly because he is running the ball as much as he has.

If the Rams are up by 10 or more points I think they should sit him. His knee will bother him less versus him running the ball to wind out the clock in a 33-16 game.
 

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He seemed to have a count, and it did look like he rested him during the game and then put him in as the closer. So McVay said one thing and pretty much did the opposite LOL.
McVay didn't do the opposite at all. He coaches as he sees the game dictating or as his plan indicates. If we were in come back mode, we very well could have seen more snaps and touches going to TG. If Brown wasn't playing well, you could say the same. Neither of us saw what he was looking at and how it fit his thought pattern.
If the Rams are up by 10 or more points I think they should sit him. His knee will bother him less versus him running the ball to wind out the clock in a 33-16 game.
And I think McVay should sit him or play him the best way he feels he can to ensure a win AND healthy players.

You really think McVay doesn't believe we can keep with the Panthers by no other means than playing Gurley early and often? Do you really thinkMcVay only proves Gurley's health by putting him in when the defense is fresh and hitting like they were?

We know Gurley shed a few pounds in the off season in order to get a bit quicker and put less load on his legs. Did Brown? Is it possibly a better plan to pound Malcom early and then put your elite weapon in when he has an edge?

Look. I don't know if this is what dictated the timing or quantity of touches or snaps. But neither do you.

And sorry for giving you too much credit for your reasoning in previous years.

BTW... I don't think you used MF in your examples. IIRR, it was Emmitt Smith
 

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We know Gurley shed a few pounds in the off season in order to get a bit quicker and put less load on his legs. Did Brown? Is it possibly a better plan to pound Malcom early and then put your elite weapon in when he has an edge?

I'd be OK with Malcomb taking short yardage and goal line plays. He's built for that.

BTW... I don't think you used MF in your examples. IIRR, it was Emmitt Smith

Well I meant to say Faulk not Smith.
 

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They’re a prime example of what’s wrong in this issue. They’re fantasy sports focused. They and fantasy players, of which I one, are the ones creating the problem.

I love goading fantasy football enthusiasts whenever they get salty over Gurley not scoring a TD despite being in range to do so to end the game.
 

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I'd be OK with Malcomb taking short yardage and goal line plays. He's built for that.
I agree. But I still don't know that we are going see exactly that. And I have a hard time questioning how McVay structured the run game yesterday regardless of TG's knees.

If it were my choice - and clearly it is not - I would use MB and to some extent, the rookie more early in the game and bring in Gurley when it is more likely he could finish off the game or take a play to the house. I think there is more of a likelihood of big plays that way and that is really where TG shines. Not only with his speed but his football smarts.
 

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This is what the media is looking for from Gurley or the Rams:
"It's arthritis (or anything chronic) and his knees are done."

Then we'll get:
"What are the Rams going to do with a broken RB and his big contract?"

They will not rest until they get what they want from this story. I have no respect for that type of media culture.

The Rams are required to report injury reports on their players. Teams cheat a little on this report every week. Embellish, under-report etc and its been like that forever. It's smart for competitive purposes.

IMO the Rams absolutely know more than they're reporting w/Gurley...and i happen to respect how they've handled it. Fuck the media.
 

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Like Alvin Kamara just did against the Texans?

Not just a RB, but a Pro Bowl RB, on the supposed Super Bowl favorites?

It happens all the time, in nearly every game.

Has Kamara an arthritic knee?

Not picking on you, FLV, but it’s too much.
 

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He actually did that a couple times. I didnt like it, but I dont think it was due to his knee. He looked good other than stepping out instead of fighting for more yards.
 

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They’re a prime example of what’s wrong in this issue. They’re fantasy sports focused. They and fantasy players, of which I one, are the ones creating the problem.
Fantasy football has done more to damage the sport than the rule changes that attempt to neuter it, in my opinion, of course.
 
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