This is some BS
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Rams and Gators
Legend
I'm waiting for them to add in the All 22 and Endzone cams, then I'll upload the play, the NFL doesn't seem to enforce the copywrite on those as much.
@rhinobean Holding, illegal use of hands...complete BS...game changing call. Made for what? Dudes are trying to become too much a story of the game....Until they are threatened with replacement, in season...nothing will change...
Hope Fisher will be active in the offseason with the competition committee.
I honestly think the ref saw the SD player hit his own guy in the back and thought it was the Rams player. Still not a good excuse but otherwise the ref was calling something he thought might happen. In the end? Another bullshit call and something needs to be done about these refs. Stop throwing flags just to be an influence on the game. I keep saying it but it just keeps getting worse. NO ONE IS WATCHING THESE GAMES TO SEE YOU ZEBRAS!!! Get that through your fucking heads!
Yamahopper
Hall of Fame
I had to listen to some of the game on Sirus, Bolts home broadcast. All they did was bash Fisher for having the refs in his pocket, Fisher's teams never get bad calls, He gets favoritism ETC. cause he's on the committee.
I shat you not.
I dropped my cocktail when I heard it.
Bad' Bad reffing is everywhere in every game. The officials are graded every week. but nothing changes.
And as they add more rules it will get worse.
mr.stlouis
Legend
Don't forget the bull crap hands to the face. That play is called when the offender is about to rip a helmet off. Freak SD and their crappy refs.
woofwoofmo
65 Toss Power Trap
I'm starting to think coaches should be allowed to challenge a penalty. With the increasing technology, any call is under much more scrutiny and failures more easily identifiable. It was probably always there, but now, it's much more easily caught and is making the refs look increasingly bad. We have replay to correct calls related to plays and players, why not expand to penalties as well, they certainly can be a turning point in a game. I'm not looking to increase the number of challenges, just expand the scope where they can be used.
I saw the hands to the face and I can understand why a zebra might call it! However, the defender knocked his hands up into his facemask. Ticky tacky call, IMO
Elmgrovegnome
Legend
Jeff Fischer keeps making comments about being in the competition committee about "well, if you open up the replay system to THIS type of play, what about THAT type of play. Where do you draw the line?"
I think the answer is simple. You don't draw any line at all. If the refs throw a flag, you should be able to challenge it. If the refs DON'T throw a flag, you should be able to challenge it. Any time the refs do or don't blow the whistle, you should be able to challenge it (e.g. was the forward momentum stopped when the player fumbled).
I also think they should increase the number of challenges, maybe 3 per half, where you get another one for every successful challenge. I don't think there should be any limitations on when you can challenge (e.g. 2 mins left in the half). I think the NFL should have to provide a public written statement for every challenge ruling. I think that any ref who is found to have missed more than one call in a game should be fined (sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander, right?). I think any ref who is found to have missed more than one call in favor or a particular team should be suspended without pay for a minimum of 2 weeks and investigated.
I think the answer is simple. You don't draw any line at all. If the refs throw a flag, you should be able to challenge it. If the refs DON'T throw a flag, you should be able to challenge it. Any time the refs do or don't blow the whistle, you should be able to challenge it (e.g. was the forward momentum stopped when the player fumbled).
I also think they should increase the number of challenges, maybe 3 per half, where you get another one for every successful challenge. I don't think there should be any limitations on when you can challenge (e.g. 2 mins left in the half). I think the NFL should have to provide a public written statement for every challenge ruling. I think that any ref who is found to have missed more than one call in a game should be fined (sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander, right?). I think any ref who is found to have missed more than one call in favor or a particular team should be suspended without pay for a minimum of 2 weeks and investigated.
It would water the game down too much. My opinion is this...you have your two challenges. You can challenge specific judgement calls such as targeting/defenseless player rules, roughing the passer, pass interference, and intentional grounding(can challenge an intentional grounding no call as well...but the rest of the rules, you cannot).
Unfortunately, you'd have to omit procedural penalties such as false start, offsides, etc. and non-specific judgement calls like holding, block in the back, illegal contact, etc.
Some will ask, why is holding omitted? Because on any given play, you're going to find holding somewhere. The refs will sometimes make a mistake on the number of the player being called. You shouldn't be able to get it overturned because they called out the wrong number. And unfortunately, they're going to be able to find a holding call that would justify the call standing if they really want to.
Whereas with roughing the passer or targeting, there's only one player that could have had the penalty committed against them(only one QB or one WR getting blown up on that play). So you can't claim, "Oh I made a mistake...I didn't mean holding on #77, I meant #67".
Ironically, you can already challenge penalties. Too many men on the field is a reviewable call IIRC.
I don't want to let a coach throw a flag for something that wasn't called.
I don't like the idea of fines either.
