49'ers The San Francisco 49’ers Thread

[OldSchool]

Is Bosa really top 3? In 2021 and 2022 he had 34 sacks. In 2023 and 2024 he had 19 sacks. He was 18th best in sacks last year. Sure looks like his game is declining. No doubt he was top 3 a few years ago. But now?

I'd rate Williams and Warner top 3. Kittle, maybe. But at 32 its possible injuries will slow him down. Injuries are already limiting CMC. A heavily used back at the age where running backs starts to decline.

Purdy is not even top 10. The only way he can be inside top ten is if CMC is healthy and the same guy he was in 2023. And Aiyuk returns to be the guy he was in 2023. And Pearsall becomes a legit threat. And the offensive line surprises everyone. Odds are slim all that happens. Heck, its possible none of that happens and Purdy starts to look more like a JAG.

Bosa is debatable, I'd probably put Myles Garrett and TJ Watt 1 and 2. After that you have a clump of young guys who could take #3-8 maybe and Bosa if he's healthy could mix in with them. IMO

Edit
Actually I guess I still think of Parsons as an ILB but he moves around so you could put him in the top 3 too.

 

[Ram_Rally]

I think you nailed the five. Kittle certainly is top five. He'd be a legend, if he were a Ram.

As stated, trouble is that #2,4 & 5 are on their last legs, or damaged goods. We'll see.

Their roster (Including Purdy) is otherwise filled with question marks.

That's a good point. I was thinking about kittle in terms of what I expect given his age. But he definitely was at the top of his position last year. But it definitely seems like the 49ers are trying to imitate the Rams and quickly rebuilding. But I don't think there is good as the Rams at doing it so there's potential that it falls apart.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Is Bosa really top 3? In 2021 and 2022 he had 34 sacks. In 2023 and 2024 he had 19 sacks. He was 18th best in sacks last year. Sure looks like his game is declining. No doubt he was top 3 a few years ago. But now?

I'd rate Williams and Warner top 3. Kittle, maybe. But at 32 its possible injuries will slow him down. Injuries are already limiting CMC. A heavily used back at the age where running backs starts to decline.

Purdy is not even top 10. The only way he can be inside top ten is if CMC is healthy and the same guy he was in 2023. And Aiyuk returns to be the guy he was in 2023. And Pearsall becomes a legit threat. And the offensive line surprises everyone. Odds are slim all that happens. Heck, its possible none of that happens and Purdy starts to look more like a JAG.

Bosa is a hard one to grade because he's definitely in that tier on a per snap basis. He's just not been healthy (the story of the Bosa brothers) the last two years. But he's still young and can still be counted on to play a mostly full season more often than not imo. And when he does he'll give you 15 or more sacks.

 

[Ground Chuck]

Is Bosa really top 3? In 2021 and 2022 he had 34 sacks. In 2023 and 2024 he had 19 sacks. He was 18th best in sacks last year. Sure looks like his game is declining. No doubt he was top 3 a few years ago. But now?

I'd rate Williams and Warner top 3. Kittle, maybe. But at 32 its possible injuries will slow him down. Injuries are already limiting CMC. A heavily used back at the age where running backs starts to decline.

Purdy is not even top 10. The only way he can be inside top ten is if CMC is healthy and the same guy he was in 2023. And Aiyuk returns to be the guy he was in 2023. And Pearsall becomes a legit threat. And the offensive line surprises everyone. Odds are slim all that happens. Heck, its possible none of that happens and Purdy starts to look more like a JAG.

You make a good point about Bosa. He seems to have dogged it after he hit the big contract, and some injury stuff.

Unlike Fiske's recent quote, perhaps he doesn't still have his superpower?

I think he hit the "Bosa Wall". The wall that comes after a Bosa brother gets paid and you start tapping out out the really tough workouts that keep you at the top of your game.

Bosa in '24 was just so-so.

 

[snackdaddy]

Bosa is a hard one to grade because he's definitely in that tier on a per snap basis. He's just not been healthy (the story of the Bosa brothers) the last two years. But he's still young and can still be counted on to play a mostly full season more often than not imo. And when he does he'll give you 15 or more sacks.

The last two seasons his sack totals would project to be 10 and a half sacks over 17 games. Is that top 3? I will concede he's young enough to get back to being a top 3 edge rusher. He's at a good age where mentally and physically he can peak. But the last two seasons made me skeptical of that.

 

[snackdaddy]

Bosa is debatable, I'd probably put Myles Garrett and TJ Watt 1 and 2. After that you have a clump of young guys who could take #3-8 maybe and Bosa if he's healthy could mix in with them. IMO

Edit
Actually I guess I still think of Parsons as an ILB but he moves around so you could put him in the top 3 too.

All things being equal. I mean if all these guys were healthy. I'd rate Watt, Garrett, Hendrickson, Crosby and Parsons as more disruptive. You could make an argument for Aiden Hutchinson and Will Anderson JR too. Bosa is top ten in my opinion. But not top 3.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm trying my hardest to be flexible with that take, so here we go:

1. Bosa for sure
2. Trent for sure
3. Warner for sure
4. Is CMC healthy? Then sure.
5. Kittle? I don't think so, so probably where the homerism kicks in.
6. If he's talking about purdy
, no chance.

Top three a few years ago maybe.

Bosa hasn’t been that level since he got paid

Williams is injured a lot and not as dominant as he was

CMC can barely walk much less run

PFF still rates Kityle as the top TE

Warner is likely the best off ball LBer in the league.

 

[OldSchool]

All things being equal. I mean if all these guys were healthy. I'd rate Watt, Garrett, Hendrickson, Crosby and Parsons as more disruptive. You could make an argument for Aiden Hutchinson and Will Anderson JR too. Bosa is top ten in my opinion. But not top 3.

True forgot about Crosby and I have Hutchinson and Anderson Jr in that next group I listed. They could jump up but for now they're behind those 5.

 

[dang]

I'm trying my hardest to be flexible with that take, so here we go:

1. Bosa for sure
2. Trent for sure
3. Warner for sure
4. Is CMC healthy? Then sure.
5. Kittle? I don't think so, so probably where the homerism kicks in.
6. If he's talking about purdy
, no chance.

Are we taking 2023 or 2025?

 

[Ram_Rally]

Top three a few years ago maybe.

Bosa hasn’t been that level since he got paid

Williams is injured a lot and not as dominant as he was

CMC can barely walk much less run

PFF still rates Kityle as the top TE

Warner is likely the best off ball LBer in the league.

Yeah I was trying to give some grace lol but yeah it's borderline at best.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Are we taking 2023 or 2025?

It's hard to say since their stars are constantly injured.

 

[Ram_Rally]

The last two seasons his sack totals would project to be 10 and a half sacks over 17 games. Is that top 3? I will concede he's young enough to get back to being a top 3 edge rusher. He's at a good age where mentally and physically he can peak. But the last two seasons made me skeptical of that.

I don't remember 2023 but I know he had some injuries last year that definitely impacted that.

 

[JYB]

Bosa is debatable, I'd probably put Myles Garrett and TJ Watt 1 and 2. After that you have a clump of young guys who could take #3-8 maybe and Bosa if he's healthy could mix in with them. IMO

Edit
Actually I guess I still think of Parsons as an ILB but he moves around so you could put him in the top 3 too.

I'd take Verse over Bosa any day. Not just because he's younger -- I think Verse is flat out a better player.

 

[OldSchool]

I'd take Verse over Bosa any day. Not just because he's younger -- I think Verse is flat out a better player.

I obviously would take Verse too. But I wasn't putting guys who's played one or two years in the top 5 they're in the group after right now.