The Fearsome Foursome on a movie set

[RamsnDodgers]

with Marion Morrison while filming "The Green Berets". Yes, he was better known as John Wayne

THE BEST DEFENSIVE LINE IN NFL HISTORY:
This pic shows actor John Wayne with members of the Los Angeles Rams' "Fearsome Foursome" defensive line on the set of the movie The Green Berets in 1967.
The "Fearsome Foursome" consisted of:
Deacon Jones (left end)
Merlin Olsen (left tackle)
Rosey Grier/Roger Brown (right tackle)
Lamar Lundy (right end)
They played together from 1963-1966 and are considered one of the best defensive lines in NFL history.
Jones and Olsen are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
The photo was taken during a visit to the set of The Green Berets, a movie about the Vietnam War

 

[dang]

with Marion Morrison while filming "The Green Berets". Yes, he was better known as John Wayne

THE BEST DEFENSIVE LINE IN NFL HISTORY:
This pic shows actor John Wayne with members of the Los Angeles Rams' "Fearsome Foursome" defensive line on the set of the movie The Green Berets in 1967.
The "Fearsome Foursome" consisted of:
Deacon Jones (left end)
Merlin Olsen (left tackle)
Rosey Grier/Roger Brown (right tackle)
Lamar Lundy (right end)
They played together from 1963-1966 and are considered one of the best defensive lines in NFL history.
Jones and Olsen are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
The photo was taken during a visit to the set of The Green Berets, a movie about the Vietnam War

Loved the movie ‘Green Berets’. The 1960s version of ‘Platoon’.

 

[Mackeyser]

I know I’m in the minority, but the only movie I liked him in was True Grit.

Everything else…to me…felt more stiff and wooden than the mast of Old Ironsides. I’ve always hated that stilted cadence he spoke with. When I was around some WW2 combat vets when I first got out in 1992 including several who were in the Marines in the first waves at Iwo Jima and places like that, I was shocked that some of them really hated John Wayne. I won’t go into it unless someone asks (it’s not political, I promise), but I thought everyone just loved him and I was the odd man out. It was an education.

But in True Grit, he had to be reluctantly vulnerable and he was amazing in that. It’s in my top 100 films of all time.

I actually like that version better than the Jeff Bridges version which was also amazing.

 

[Merlin]

He was representative of a social belief at that time that men must have grace under pressure. Lot of benefits to all that as well I think. And it aligns strongly with military service as well, where jokes and maintaining a sense of humor in the face of the worst odds has always been viewed as strength.

He was just an actor sure. But in danger many find themselves acting. Never been a huge fan of his but I appreciate him for sure.

 

[Neil039]

I know I’m in the minority, but the only movie I liked him in was True Grit.

Everything else…to me…felt more stiff and wooden than the mast of Old Ironsides. I’ve always hated that stilted cadence he spoke with. When I was around some WW2 combat vets when I first got out in 1992 including several who were in the Marines in the first waves at Iwo Jima and places like that, I was shocked that some of them really hated John Wayne. I won’t go into it unless someone asks (it’s not political, I promise), but I thought everyone just loved him and I was the odd man out. It was an education.

But in True Grit, he had to be reluctantly vulnerable and he was amazing in that. It’s in my top 100 films of all time.

I actually like that version better than the Jeff Bridges version which was also amazing.

DITTO THIS!

 

[Mackeyser]

He was representative of a social belief at that time that men must have grace under pressure. Lot of benefits to all that as well I think. And it aligns strongly with military service as well, where jokes and maintaining a sense of humor in the face of the worst odds has always been viewed as strength.

He was just an actor sure. But in danger many find themselves acting. Never been a huge fan of his but I appreciate him for sure.

Unfortunately, it was a toxic belief that shamed so many WW2 and Korean War vets for feeling human feelings like fear because you were a coward if you weren’t all Hollywood propaganda about war like John Wayne.

And I still get that some folks love him. I just identify with the vets who were hurt by that BS.

 

[Classic Rams]

Not a John Wayne guy. The only movie I saw of his was The Cowboys, after our HS showed it to our class 3 years after it came out. Liked it a lot. Strongly disliked Bruce Dern for years after that. He played such a good villain. I heard he got a lot of flack from people in public after that performance.

 

[den-the-coach]

Unfortunately, it was a toxic belief that shamed so many WW2 and Korean War vets for feeling human feelings like fear because you were a coward if you weren’t all Hollywood propaganda about war like John Wayne.

And I still get that some folks love him. I just identify with the vets who were hurt by that BS.

Nothing wrong getting assistance with PTSD too. Therapy is not weakness as I went through that informing the therapist assigned to me that they were not there and what good would talking to them do? It is much better to talk about it and get your feelings out there I understand suppressing the feelings and not talking about it was the American way, but they had plenty of VFW's back then and would drink with their brethren and talk amongst themselves, but there are truly better ways.

 

[Merlin]

Unfortunately, it was a toxic belief that shamed so many WW2 and Korean War vets for feeling human feelings like fear because you were a coward if you weren’t all Hollywood propaganda about war like John Wayne.

And I still get that some folks love him. I just identify with the vets who were hurt by that BS.

See that's what I take exception to, is the need to label a social structure of a world that none of us were raised in as toxic. Particularly when those men of that time saved the world from very real forces of evil. But I am fine with the disagreement.

Just wanted to throw in some appreciation for an actor who gave men a role model of what men have always needed to be in order to safeguard their loved ones. And I think this desire to act like it has no value, or that there is no place for strong men in the world ahead is a very dangerous trend for humanity as a whole. Because some culture will not abandon that, several in fact, and who will be there to stand against those forces the next time it is required.

But then maybe I'm just taking this unnecessarily into some shit. So excuse me and let's disagree.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Back to the film ... The Green Berets ... quick trivia question.

What former Los Angeles Ram had a supporting role in that movie?

 

[den-the-coach]

What former Los Angeles Ram had a supporting role in that movie?

 

[Allen2McVay]

View attachment 70356

Correct. Appeared in many films and television shows but is perhaps best remembered as Hot Lips' husband ... Colonel Donald Penobscott. Margaret could never fall in love and marry a lower-rank.

You sir win a free dinner for Two at any participating Howard Johnson's restaurant!

 

[Mackeyser]

See that's what I take exception to, is the need to label a social structure of a world that none of us were raised in as toxic. Particularly when those men of that time saved the world from very real forces of evil. But I am fine with the disagreement.

Just wanted to throw in some appreciation for an actor who gave men a role model of what men have always needed to be in order to safeguard their loved ones. And I think this desire to act like it has no value, or that there is no place for strong men in the world ahead is a very dangerous trend for humanity as a whole. Because some culture will not abandon that, several in fact, and who will be there to stand against those forces the next time it is required.

But then maybe I'm just taking this unnecessarily into some shit. So excuse me and let's disagree.

It’s all good. I used toxic, but I get that’s a buzzword these days.

It’s not speculation or opinion, the number of WW2 vets and Korean War vets that died from self medicating with alcohol usually, is astonishing and it’s because in large part to the shame and how the Hollywood Propaganda machine worked. Even in the early 90s, getting mental health assistance at the VA was difficult and problematic and people in public associated veteran mental health only with homelessness or violence

Anyway, happy to disagree. It’s what makes this country great.