That oline!!

[WestCoastRam]

I mean, I think you've gotta be pretty happy - not just with previous enigma, Brian Allen! - with how they've all been holding up in pass protection. I mean, we're getting deep pass plays and not even off play-action!

Sure, I'd like to see a little more from the run game but I'm not so sure that isn't a reflection of the backs and not the line right now.

Really impressed with the line given that we have an aging (ancient!) LT, a new C and an inconsistent RT at times.

 

[thirteen28]

They were really stout yesterday, against a decent DL. Vita Vea and Ndonkeykong Suh did very little.

 

[Jacobarch]

Yeah our oline is no joke. We've faced 3 good dlines so far and held up very well. Id like to see aittle more running which I think we will when they leave 5 or 6 in the box to try to stop the pass.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Nate Tice making good points on how McVay scheming some nice chip help for oline too even in empty sets with TE and RB aligned near tackle too.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah and I find myself wondering where the Bucs fans went. The ones that were wandering around here acting outraged that we were underestimating their unstoppable DL.

The Rams OL definitely played great and deserve a lot of credit. But also note that there were a lot of runs when Suh and Vea were off the field getting oxygen. Basically the Rams passed the ball around and flipped it outside and had those big guys tired as fuck and had a game plan to mash a bit when they went off the field IMO. And the QB play affected things too, it was a full team win across the board.

I don't know how the Bucs will line up against this team in the playoffs and convince themselves that they have some kind of edge. Fact is the Rams' passing game was in easy mode. Only threats were the odd rushes that their DC threw at us, and some of them were disguised very well but is that gonna be enough? We'll see. Either way I'm not scared of these guys.

 

[Angry Ram]

OL was never the issue. It's why they didn't force new players into it because they were someone else. They're playing well and have been for a while.

 

[FrantikRam]

My goodness what we're going to do to that Seattle defense

 

[tomas]

Really impressed with the line given that we have an aging (ancient!) LT, a new C and an inconsistent RT at times

I'm predicting ageless wonder Whitworth will extend his career 3 years and sign a new contract extension.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Yeah and I find myself wondering where the Bucs fans went. The ones that were wandering around here acting outraged that we were underestimating their unstoppable DL.

The Rams OL definitely played great and deserve a lot of credit. But also note that there were a lot of runs when Suh and Vea were off the field getting oxygen. Basically the Rams passed the ball around and flipped it outside and had those big guys tired as fuck and had a game plan to mash a bit when they went off the field IMO. And the QB play affected things too, it was a full team win across the board.

I don't know how the Bucs will line up against this team in the playoffs and convince themselves that they have some kind of edge. Fact is the Rams' passing game was in easy mode. Only threats were the odd rushes that their DC threw at us, and some of them were disguised very well but is that gonna be enough? We'll see. Either way I'm not scared of these guys.

Yeah, basically from what I heard the minute Suh or Vea were off the field we went up tempo. Great strategy. Kinda surprised people don't do that more with Donald.

 

[oldnotdead]

The OL has clearly begun to play at the next-step-up level. I said it when he was hired and the OL play has validated just how important the hiring of Carberry has been. IMO he's been a clear difference maker. The OL rarely misses on the DL games. This is reflective of good coaching.

Allen has proven himself the quality starting center I expected him to be when he was drafted. Allen's protection calls have been very good thus far. That and his ability to block will soon make him one of the best centers in the NFL. This is why he's beaten out Shelton and Corbett.

This whole OL has been discounted because of their disjointed play in 2019 & 2020. Again it's not the players they have. They have some really good talent. The future is bright with Noteboom and A. Jax likely to assume bigger roles next year. It's always been about the coaching and this season is validating that perspective with the outstanding play of the OL.

It's clear why the Ram's didn't bother with drafting for OL. IMO Snead should be the GM of the year. Creating a Super Bowl caliber roster without a bunch of overpriced 1st round picks. It also validates the old-school notion that you get your OL in rounds 2-5. But hell Alaric was a UDFA and when you scout as well as the Rams, they grab quality players among the undrafted.

IMO Alaric Jackson will be in the running for starting RT next year with Noteboom taking over at LT.

The key to all this OL improvement and the optimism about their play all comes back to Carberry. He is the most underrated acquisition the Rams have made. I can tell easily by the development of A. Jax from an overlooked, raw talent into a potential starter at RT in one year. He gives Snead a realistic option next year to move on from Havenstein. The only question would be whether or not Snead sees potential comp pick value in keeping Rob through 2022 which is his contract year much like they are doing with SJD this year. With Noteboom moving into LT this would make A. Jax their swing OT if they keep Havenstein one more year (2022).

Regardless, all of us can relax the trepidation of the OL play. They have solid talent and depth and now are very well coached. They have faced 3 consecutive quality DL fronts and have stoned them. The OL is a strength of this team, no longer to be considered a question mark or weakness. Carberry should get all the credit for that.

 

[Kupped]

The OL has clearly begun to play at the next-step-up level. I said it when he was hired and the OL play has validated just how important the hiring of Carberry has been. IMO he's been a clear difference maker. The OL rarely misses on the DL games. This is reflective of good coaching.

Allen has proven himself the quality starting center I expected him to be when he was drafted. Allen's protection calls have been very good thus far. That and his ability to block will soon make him one of the best centers in the NFL. This is why he's beaten out Shelton and Corbett.

This whole OL has been discounted because of their disjointed play in 2019 & 2020. Again it's not the players they have. They have some really good talent. The future is bright with Noteboom and A. Jax likely to assume bigger roles next year. It's always been about the coaching and this season is validating that perspective with the outstanding play of the OL.

It's clear why the Ram's didn't bother with drafting for OL. IMO Snead should be the GM of the year. Creating a Super Bowl caliber roster without a bunch of overpriced 1st round picks. It also validates the old-school notion that you get your OL in rounds 2-5. But hell Alaric was a UDFA and when you scout as well as the Rams, they grab quality players among the undrafted.

IMO Alaric Jackson will be in the running for starting RT next year with Noteboom taking over at LT.

The key to all this OL improvement and the optimism about their play all comes back to Carberry. He is the most underrated acquisition the Rams have made. I can tell easily by the development of A. Jax from an overlooked, raw talent into a potential starter at RT in one year. He gives Snead a realistic option next year to move on from Havenstein. The only question would be whether or not Snead sees potential comp pick value in keeping Rob through 2022 which is his contract year much like they are doing with SJD this year. With Noteboom moving into LT this would make A. Jax their swing OT if they keep Havenstein one more year (2022).

Regardless, all of us can relax the trepidation of the OL play. They have solid talent and depth and now are very well coached. They have faced 3 consecutive quality DL fronts and have stoned them. The OL is a strength of this team, no longer to be considered a question mark or weakness. Carberry should get all the credit for that.

I don't think you intentionally create instability.
Havenstein and Edwards are locks for next year. Corbett, Allen and Noteboom all could leave, so we can't assume all will be back. I believe the could, but think 2 out of three is more likely.

 

[NJRamsFan]

OL was never the issue. It's why they didn't force new players into it because they were someone else. They're playing well and have been for a while.

This is just factually inaccurate.

We traded for Corbett mid-season in 2019 and he became a starter in week 11 if they were playing so well for "a while" how did that happen? We got rid of Blythe (who is not even a starter in this league anymore BTW) and Brian Allen is playing well for the first time in his career not "a while". David Edwards wasn't even a starter going into last season so not sure how he has been playing well for "a while". In fact, the O-line we trot out on Sundays has played exactly 3 games as a complete unit so again, how have they been playing well for a while?

That being said, our O Line is playing lights out this year I couldn't have asked for more from them. Stafford certainly helps because he forces more coverage looks and you cant just blindly blitz him but credit where credit is due, the O-line has stepped up this year.

 

[Ram_Rally]

This is just factually inaccurate.

We traded for Corbett mid-season in 2019 and he became a starter in week 11 if they were playing so well for "a while" how did that happen? We got rid of Blythe (who is not even a starter in this league anymore BTW) and Brian Allen is playing well for the first time in his career not "a while". David Edwards wasn't even a starter going into last season so not sure how he has been playing well for "a while". In fact, the O-line we trot out on Sundays has played exactly 3 games as a complete unit so again, how have they been playing well for a while?

That being said, our O Line is playing lights out this year I couldn't have asked for more from them. Stafford certainly helps because he forces more coverage looks and you cant just blindly blitz him but credit where credit is due, the O-line has stepped up this year.

They were a good unit in 2020 as well. In fact if you look at McVay's 5 years so far, 2019 is an anomaly in terms of bad offensive line play. Even if you subtract Blythe then Edwards, Whitworth, Corbett, and Havenstein are all still considered quality linemen.

But you're 100 percent right that Stafford is making a huge difference. Checking out of reads when he sees a blitz, his ability to manipulate the pocket, quicker reads, etc. But feels like more evidence that the Rams offensive line wasn't really "bad" or "average" in 2020 either. They just needed a little help from their QB.

 

[Angry Ram]

This is just factually inaccurate.

No, it's not. You're focused on the current combination only. There's hardly been changes in terms of new personnel.

We got rid of Blythe (who is not even a starter in this league anymore BTW) and Brian Allen is playing well for the first time in his career not "a while"

I don't see much of an talent difference b/w the 2. They're average centers, on par with most of the NFL. I don't care if AB is starting or not elsewhere. He was serviceable, did his job for a year.

We traded for Corbett mid-season in 2019 and he became a starter in week 11 if they were playing so well for "a while" how did that happen?

Exactly. That was almost 2 years ago now. He developed well in 2020 and looks to continue this year.

David Edwards wasn't even a starter going into last season so not sure how he has been playing well for "a while

He didn't start the first 2 games and then started all 14 after and played well too. So yeah I consider that for a while.

how have they been playing well for a while?

The tackles and guards are the same. They had to reshuffle a bit bc of the injuries last year, but this group of players have been together since 2019, some even further back. They only drafted 1 guy since 2019 all the while the majority of the board was screaming for a center in the 2nd round this year and more linemen last year. They are benefiting from the development from the line they built up since 2018.

The line wasn't a problem last year. I fail to see how a line with 23 total sacks allowed and grading their way to a top 10 run game would be considered bad enough to be replaced this past offseason. Also playing some tough fronts last year too.

 

[RamWoodie]

Well...The LT is aging but I would hardly call him ancient cuz he's out there against guys half his age or more and getting it done.

I much rather think of him as in the mold of Brady. He's an exception to the rule!

 

[NJRamsFan]

They were a good unit in 2020 as well. In fact if you look at McVay's 5 years so far, 2019 is an anomaly in terms of bad offensive line play. Even if you subtract Blythe then Edwards, Whitworth, Corbett, and Havenstein are all still considered quality linemen.

But you're 100 percent right that Stafford is making a huge difference. Checking out of reads when he sees a blitz, his ability to manipulate the pocket, quicker reads, etc. But feels like more evidence that the Rams offensive line wasn't really "bad" or "average" in 2020 either. They just needed a little help from their QB.

Well Blythe was and is dog water. Whitworth missed 8? games last year if I remember correctly. Hav missed 7? The year before

 

[So Ram]

The OL has clearly begun to play at the next-step-up level. I said it when he was hired and the OL play has validated just how important the hiring of Carberry has been. IMO he's been a clear difference maker. The OL rarely misses on the DL games. This is reflective of good coaching.

Allen has proven himself the quality starting center I expected him to be when he was drafted. Allen's protection calls have been very good thus far. That and his ability to block will soon make him one of the best centers in the NFL. This is why he's beaten out Shelton and Corbett.

This whole OL has been discounted because of their disjointed play in 2019 & 2020. Again it's not the players they have. They have some really good talent. The future is bright with Noteboom and A. Jax likely to assume bigger roles next year. It's always been about the coaching and this season is validating that perspective with the outstanding play of the OL.

It's clear why the Ram's didn't bother with drafting for OL. IMO Snead should be the GM of the year. Creating a Super Bowl caliber roster without a bunch of overpriced 1st round picks. It also validates the old-school notion that you get your OL in rounds 2-5. But hell Alaric was a UDFA and when you scout as well as the Rams, they grab quality players among the undrafted.

IMO Alaric Jackson will be in the running for starting RT next year with Noteboom taking over at LT.

The key to all this OL improvement and the optimism about their play all comes back to Carberry. He is the most underrated acquisition the Rams have made. I can tell easily by the development of A. Jax from an overlooked, raw talent into a potential starter at RT in one year. He gives Snead a realistic option next year to move on from Havenstein. The only question would be whether or not Snead sees potential comp pick value in keeping Rob through 2022 which is his contract year much like they are doing with SJD this year. With Noteboom moving into LT this would make A. Jax their swing OT if they keep Havenstein one more year (2022).

Regardless, all of us can relax the trepidation of the OL play. They have solid talent and depth and now are very well coached. They have faced 3 consecutive quality DL fronts and have stoned them. The OL is a strength of this team, no longer to be considered a question mark or weakness. Carberry should get all the credit for that.

You know I won’t totally agree with your take on Carberry. Your sample size & The Rams roster is different this season. They kept more Offensive Lineman than normal.Your TAKE imo sort of sucks,if your talking crap about Kromer. Zak Kromer is still a big part of The Rams coaching.
Andy Dickerson is the SeaHags Offensive Line coach so I’ll continue to disagree in that sense is it all.Adding Brian Allen is healthy & Whitworth & Havenstien took more ownership than ever as working on there craft while mentoring.Bug Whit was passing on the torch as well to Noteboom & Hav.
I totally agree that Carberry has been a big influence & helped improve this group as a WHOLE. Kromer was not going to be a better choice.This Nick Jones is a guy that Sean Mcvay should also get credit for hiring.He will benefit the most working with The Rams coaching staff.Cool thing is just another SEC & Georgia influence on The Rams roster.

 

[So Ram]

Well...The LT is aging but I would hardly call him ancient cuz he's out there against guys half his age or more and getting it done.

I much rather think of him as in the mold of Brady. He's an exception to the rule!

Jackie Slater as well when he was with The Rams. Big Whit is maybe even a bigger exception in this day & age.He has worked extremely hard to maintain his body.His knowledge & understanding of where he is as a NFL is exceptional.He gets it & is embarrassing the fact he has a GREAT opportunity to win a SuperBowl & get into the HOF.
As a long time Ram Fan it would such a Happy Ending of a Ram career.He has played more seasons as a Bengal,but his time as a Ram pushes him over The Top to get in.

 

[So Ram]

Well Blythe was and is dog water. Whitworth missed 8? games last year if I remember correctly. Hav missed 7? The year before

I don’t think Austin Blythe gets the credit he deserved as a Ram.He was a solid stop Gap Player.Humphries would have made this Rams Offensive Line so much better.I’ll give Brian Allen his due for all his hard work to be that much better.
I think Coleman Shelton is Dog Do!! Austin Corbett’s Ram Future is what? Same Brian Allen ? I think Joesph Notebooms future is LT,but still he will be a FA as well.
There is a reason why this OLine group has so many players on the roster.Whitworth is another player that is not signed for 2022.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Whitworth is another player that is not signed for 2022.

Wrong, ... Whit is signed for 2022 and would carry a CAP hit of $14,666,668. unless he extends again. The thought has been that he may retire, and should he get a ring, that may very well be true.