Stafford OUT for Packers gm

[Ramhusker]

Our losses (in order):

SF is ranked 5th in scoring.

Cincinnati started slow defensively but their last 3 games they're giving up 16.7ppg and are likely to end top 10 (currently 17th).

Philly is not a healthy defense, we missed an opportunity there.

Pittsburgh started slow like Cincy but are on a fucking tear, definitely going to finish top 10 (currently 16th).

Dallas is 4th in scoring.

In our wins we put up 30 (Seattle), 29 (Indy), and 26 (Cards). So I think to a large extent some of our problems on offense are simply facing better opponents. Cincy and Pittsburgh are both extremely physical up front and beat us in the trenches, two others are legit top defenses (SF is sliding a bit but points-wise they've done well over the season thus far), and one we obviously underperformed (Philly).

Since our defense is one dimensional and built to supplement an offense that sustains drives here's the defense quality we have in the games ahead, with current scoring rankings:

Green Bay is ranked 20th.
Seattle is ranked 11th.
Arizona is ranked 27th.
Cleveland is ranked 12th.
Baltimore is ranked 1st.
Washington is ranked 31st.
New Orleans is ranked 9th.
New York (G) is ranked 22nd.
SF is ranked 5th.

Of the higher ranked defenses we're going to face, Seattle is a team we play well and we're coming off the bye. Cleveland and New Orleans I think are still winnable. Only game where I think we're up shit creek is Baltimore, as that QB is going to run all over our front.

Also and btw when it comes to momentum... If we beat Green Bay and get by Seattle post-bye we have Arizona too before we hit one of the better defenses in Cleveland. This post-bye sched really is favorable for us, they just have to get the OL playing on one sheet of music and pray that the football Gods spare us the injuries.

Fantastic take and great post. That’s why a win this week is so huge. We could do a lot like other teams have done this year, get a hot streak. And as shitty as the NFL did us with the first half of the season, they seem to have done a good with this stretch coming up. Fingers crossed that our injury woes are behind us because this could be fun.

 

[HitStick]

name a time when not saving timeouts actually made any real difference. The he doesn't make half time adjustments comment is just not true.... the cardinal's game we ran the ball like 9 straight plays?

What about the 2nd half of the seahawks game when we outscored them 23-0?


I don't think he is untouchable by any means - but you have to just use some reason and sense here when looking at the last two years.

There was no chance with the injuries last year for the team to be good.

Then this year they basically dumped the roster - many people thought we would be the worst team in the league.

That’s easy. Pittsburg. McVays wasted timeouts left the game in the refs hands.

McVay did nothing different in the second half against the Seahawks. If not for two missed field goals in the first half, the score is not close. The game plan stayed exactly the same, the only difference is the defense shut down the Seahawks and forced 3 and outs, giving the rams more opportunities to score.

The cardinals game, you’re right. He did not make an adjustment and it worked. Maybe he should do more of it. There’s been a few games (Pittsburg, Philly, SF, Indy) where the Rams changed nothing, and it hit them in the ass. Indy is the perfect example. The Rams were up 20 at half and somehow Indy forced OT. That shit is garbage.

 

[Ellard80]

That’s easy. Pittsburg. McVays wasted timeouts left the game in the refs hands.

McVay did nothing different in the second half against the Seahawks. If not for two missed field goals in the first half, the score is not close. The game plan stayed exactly the same, the only difference is the defense shut down the Seahawks and forced 3 and outs, giving the rams more opportunities to score.

The cardinals game, you’re right. He did not make an adjustment and it worked. Maybe he should do more of it. There’s been a few games (Pittsburg, Philly, SF, Indy) where the Rams changed nothing, and it hit them in the ass. Indy is the perfect example. The Rams were up 20 at half and somehow Indy forced OT. That shit is garbage.

I knew you would say Pittsburgh.

that play happened on 4th down... he would have used his last timeout to stop the clock on 3rd down.

Wouldn't have made any difference.

 

[SteezyEndo]

If we don’t tighten up our ish like Archie Bell and the Drells from Houston Texas we are going to have a disappointing season so expect that because I am not seeing anything promising thus far that leads me to believe we are going to be playoff bound. Kupp came back and our Offense is lacking? That makes no sense. With K Dub out that has been a kick to the nuts for our running game. I would rather see more Freeman and Evans against GB. Ohhh and can we utilize TE’s into our offensive playbook pretty please with a cherry on top. We need to start capitalizing and figure out how to devour our opponents without giving them a chance. This may be a rant to some but I feel we need to be serious and start winning from here on out. Time for the tables to turn…Go Rams

 

[HitStick]

I knew you would say Pittsburgh.

that play happened on 4th down... he would have used his last timeout to stop the clock on 3rd down.

Wouldn't have made any difference.

You forget he wasted one like 3 mins into the third quarter. That 3rd time out is what we needed.

 

[NYCRam]

You forget he wasted one like 3 mins into the third quarter. That 3rd time out is what we needed.

Using a PRECIOUS Time out in the 3rd Quarter is Coaching NEGLIGENCE 101. Dock me the 5 fucking yards. SAVE YOUR TIME OUTS, Martz!!!!

 

[Ellard80]

You forget he wasted one like 3 mins into the third quarter. That 3rd time out is what we needed.

you're not following - even if he still had that timeout he would have used it on 3rd down

the sneak happened on 4th down so the timeout would have been gone.

His using that timeout in the 3rd quarter had no bearing on any outcome in teh game.

so still waiting for someone to share a game we lost because of timeout usage.

 

[OldSchool]

You read the endless stream of vent threads and things come full circle eventually. We're back to McVay doesn't waste time outs now it seems.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Our losses (in order):

SF is ranked 5th in scoring.

Cincinnati started slow defensively but their last 3 games they're giving up 16.7ppg and are likely to end top 10 (currently 17th).

Philly is not a healthy defense, we missed an opportunity there.

Pittsburgh started slow like Cincy but are on a fucking tear, definitely going to finish top 10 (currently 16th).

Dallas is 4th in scoring.

In our wins we put up 30 (Seattle), 29 (Indy), and 26 (Cards). So I think to a large extent some of our problems on offense are simply facing better opponents. Cincy and Pittsburgh are both extremely physical up front and beat us in the trenches, two others are legit top defenses (SF is sliding a bit but points-wise they've done well over the season thus far), and one we obviously underperformed (Philly).

Since our defense is one dimensional and built to supplement an offense that sustains drives here's the defense quality we have in the games ahead, with current scoring rankings:

Green Bay is ranked 20th.
Seattle is ranked 11th.
Arizona is ranked 27th.
Cleveland is ranked 12th.
Baltimore is ranked 1st.
Washington is ranked 31st.
New Orleans is ranked 9th.
New York (G) is ranked 22nd.
SF is ranked 5th.

Of the higher ranked defenses we're going to face, Seattle is a team we play well and we're coming off the bye. Cleveland and New Orleans I think are still winnable. Only game where I think we're up shit creek is Baltimore, as that QB is going to run all over our front.

Also and btw when it comes to momentum... If we beat Green Bay and get by Seattle post-bye we have Arizona too before we hit one of the better defenses in Cleveland. This post-bye sched really is favorable for us, they just have to get the OL playing on one sheet of music and pray that the football Gods spare us the injuries.

Great post. Let’s go get the W and go from there.

 

[HitStick]

you're not following - even if he still had that timeout he would have used it on 3rd down

the sneak happened on 4th down so the timeout would have been gone.

His using that timeout in the 3rd quarter had no bearing on any outcome in teh game.

so still waiting for someone to share a game we lost because of timeout usage.

That makes absolutely zero sense. They passed on 3rd and it was incomplete. How would an extra timeout yield the same result?

It wouldn’t.


That is the example.

 

[OldSchool]

Our losses (in order):

SF is ranked 5th in scoring.

Cincinnati started slow defensively but their last 3 games they're giving up 16.7ppg and are likely to end top 10 (currently 17th).

Philly is not a healthy defense, we missed an opportunity there.

Pittsburgh started slow like Cincy but are on a fucking tear, definitely going to finish top 10 (currently 16th).

Dallas is 4th in scoring.

In our wins we put up 30 (Seattle), 29 (Indy), and 26 (Cards). So I think to a large extent some of our problems on offense are simply facing better opponents. Cincy and Pittsburgh are both extremely physical up front and beat us in the trenches, two others are legit top defenses (SF is sliding a bit but points-wise they've done well over the season thus far), and one we obviously underperformed (Philly).

Since our defense is one dimensional and built to supplement an offense that sustains drives here's the defense quality we have in the games ahead, with current scoring rankings:

Green Bay is ranked 20th.
Seattle is ranked 11th.
Arizona is ranked 27th.
Cleveland is ranked 12th.
Baltimore is ranked 1st.
Washington is ranked 31st.
New Orleans is ranked 9th.
New York (G) is ranked 22nd.
SF is ranked 5th.

Of the higher ranked defenses we're going to face, Seattle is a team we play well and we're coming off the bye. Cleveland and New Orleans I think are still winnable. Only game where I think we're up shit creek is Baltimore, as that QB is going to run all over our front.

Also and btw when it comes to momentum... If we beat Green Bay and get by Seattle post-bye we have Arizona too before we hit one of the better defenses in Cleveland. This post-bye sched really is favorable for us, they just have to get the OL playing on one sheet of music and pray that the football Gods spare us the injuries.

Nope it's all the defenses fault! Fire Morris!!!!!

Now that I got that joke out of the way we absolutely need to get better on offense. All those good ranked defenses will take apart (or already have) our mediocre OLine. It has to be improved this off season or we're going to see more of the same. That's just my take and I have an even more limited vision than Snead

 

[snackdaddy]

https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/los-angeles-rams-qb-matthew-stafford-progressing-well-play-vs-green-bay-packers

“We kind of knew that he was not going to participate all week and we'll take it all the way up until game time,” McVay said.

As for Stafford's physical state, McVay twice said he's making good progress gripping the ball and offered an overall positive assessment of how the veteran signal caller is trending.

“I think he's progressing well," McVay said. "I think he's doing good.”

 

[snackdaddy]

Sounds like things are trending in the direction of Stafford being able to play. I guess we won't know for sure until game time.

 

[Merlin]

Thumb is one thing that is impossible to play through if the grip isn't there. But Stafford is so damn tough that to sideline him requires it to be very bad.

I expect him to have them numb it up and he will start. If his accuracy isn't there they will pull him.

 

[snackdaddy]

Rypien is another noodle arm in a long line of noodle armed backups. If Stafford can't go they're gonna have to run more if they want a chance to win this one.

 

[Ellard80]

That makes absolutely zero sense. They passed on 3rd and it was incomplete. How would an extra timeout yield the same result?

It wouldn’t.


That is the example.

it was 3rd and 8 and picket threw a 7-yard pass to allen robinson.

Then Pickett got the bogus quarter back sneak on 4th and 1

In what world there was an incomplete pass im not sure.

 

[Ellard80]

You read the endless stream of vent threads and things come full circle eventually. We're back to McVay doesn't waste time outs now it seems.

never said he didn't waste timeouts.

said no one can actually give a moment when it resulted in a loss.

 

[Merlin]

Fantastic take and great post. That’s why a win this week is so huge. We could do a lot like other teams have done this year, get a hot streak. And as shitty as the NFL did us with the first half of the season, they seem to have done a good with this stretch coming up. Fingers crossed that our injury woes are behind us because this could be fun.

I just hope they contain Green Bay's QB. The guy is not very good but he can run and our contain generally sucks ass.

 

[OldSchool]

never said he didn't waste timeouts.

said no one can actually give a moment when it resulted in a loss.

Oh great we don't have McVay's insane memory for every play of every game so the argument is null and void. Excellent stance. McVay blows time outs on a regular basis and it's a very reasonable thought to feel it's affected games or prevented us from winning. For actually costing us a win who gives a shit? He blows them we all know it. If it makes you feel better to argue something that there isn't likely anyway to prove it if anybody cared enough to go back through games and make a case for it then have fun. We all know he's bad at time out management and always has been. You argue that it didn't against Pitt but everybody else feels it does because they threw an incompletion on 3rd down so a time out wasn't needed there and it could have been used on that 4th down play.

 

[Ellard80]

Oh great we don't have McVay's insane memory for every play of every game so the argument is null and void. Excellent stance. McVay blows time outs on a regular basis and it's a very reasonable thought to feel it's affected games or prevented us from winning. For actually costing us a win who gives a shit? He blows them we all know it. If it makes you feel better to argue something that there isn't likely anyway to prove it if anybody cared enough to go back through games and make a case for it then have fun. We all know he's bad at time out management and always has been. You argue that it didn't against Pitt but everybody else feels it does because they threw an incompletion on 3rd down so a time out wasn't needed there and it could have been used on that 4th down play.

they didnt throw an incompletion on 3rd down

you are agreeing with shit that is wrong lol

if you are talking about earlier in the game when he used the timeout - it wouldn't have mattered.

the 3rd down play happened around the 3min mark... he would have used the last time out there.

wouldn't have had any timeouts left for 4th down.