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It seems that Raheem Morris' defense is about limiting explosive passing plays and is willing to give up running plays and short passes. I don't think this will work against Tom Brady, since he can dink & dunk with the best of them. Brady also has Gronk as his relief valve, which is infuriating. Aaron Donald will have trouble getting to Brady because the Tampa oline is pretty good AND Brady will get rid of the ball too fast for AD to get there. Morris is going to have to return to Staley's defense a bit more by NOT giving 10 yards to Buc WR's, as we have seen them do vs Chicago and Indy.

The Buc defense has not been lights out, thus far, plus they have never played against a Stafford led, Rams offense. If Brady and Stafford get rolling, this could be a shoot out. I have to admit that I am a little concerned about this game, and I hope Rams fans show up big time in SoFi and make Tommy shyte his pants.... This is a huge game, imo.
 

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My recipe to beat the BUCS is tight coverage on wrs at LOS, not playing off like we have been mix up our blitzes and rush 5 off and on so Brady has to throw quick which will produce yards but sooner or later we will win like teams did against us last year when we dinked and dunked. DL and LBs must keep hands up to generate deflections/tips. DL must get to Brady he is not mobil and we must put pressure on him.

We need to be able to run the ball against their great run D bc otherwise they will have too many defenders out against our wrs/te.

We MUST get DJax possibly Tutu involved to force the BUCS to not be able to crowd the LOS I saw Indy start to do that and it forced Stafford into some bad throws and some quick throws. Must force them to respect the deep ball.

At then of the day the D needs to step up especially the secondary.
 

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As I noted in another thread, the Rams and the Bucs have allowed the lowest pressure %s in the NFL over the first two weeks. If one of the two defenses can break that trend and put their opposing QB on a short time clock, I think that will go a long way to determining the winner.
 

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I'm not worried about the dink and dunk. Arians cannot help himself to throw the long ball. We get in Brady's face, we get the W.

If we can get some runs and passes on the edges, I think we win this game from the offensive perspective.
 

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My two cents.

Can't run against the Bucs.
Rams will have to be pass-heavy. That was the formula last season when the Rams beat them, with 50-plus pass attempts against about 20 rushes, which barely netted 40 rushing yards.

Difficult to impossible to hit Brady very often.
One of his great strengths is getting the ball out of his hand. Does not mean he can not be pressured and forced to throw more quickly and short. Just don't see him getting knocked-down too often.

Finally, although I have also been somewhat frustrated the past two games by the Rams' soft coverage, I don't think this is the game for the Rams to get-up on the opponents' WRs. Tampa has too much down-the-field-talent in Evans, Godwin and Brown; and Gronkowski can also get downfield.

Unless the Rams can figure-out a way to clone Jalen Ramsey, and make three or four more of him, I don't think they have enough coverage corners to play tight very often. Believe, the Rams should try to force Brady and the Bucs to put together 8-10-play scoring drives.

Now these are just my opinions but the last time I played a Madden Franchise, I had a pretty good defense.

Just Sayin.
 

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It seems that Raheem Morris' defense is about limiting explosive passing plays and is willing to give up running plays and short passes. I don't think this will work against Tom Brady, since he can dink & dunk with the best of them. Brady also has Gronk as his relief valve, which is infuriating. Aaron Donald will have trouble getting to Brady because the Tampa oline is pretty good AND Brady will get rid of the ball too fast for AD to get there. Morris is going to have to return to Staley's defense a bit more by NOT giving 10 yards to Buc WR's, as we have seen them do vs Chicago and Indy.

The Buc defense has not been lights out, thus far, plus they have never played against a Stafford led, Rams offense. If Brady and Stafford get rolling, this could be a shoot out. I have to admit that I am a little concerned about this game, and I hope Rams fans show up big time in SoFi and make Tommy shyte his pants.... This is a huge game, imo.
By scoring more points we’ll beat them duh :laugh4:
 

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It seems that Raheem Morris' defense is about limiting explosive passing plays and is willing to give up running plays and short passes. I don't think this will work against Tom Brady, since he can dink & dunk with the best of them. Brady also has Gronk as his relief valve, which is infuriating. Aaron Donald will have trouble getting to Brady because the Tampa oline is pretty good AND Brady will get rid of the ball too fast for AD to get there. Morris is going to have to return to Staley's defense a bit more by NOT giving 10 yards to Buc WR's, as we have seen them do vs Chicago and Indy.

The Buc defense has not been lights out, thus far, plus they have never played against a Stafford led, Rams offense. If Brady and Stafford get rolling, this could be a shoot out. I have to admit that I am a little concerned about this game, and I hope Rams fans show up big time in SoFi and make Tommy shyte his pants.... This is a huge game, imo.
The Bears punted once the entire game. If Morris plays the same soft scheme he played the first two weeks, the Bucs might not punt the entire game game and will score 40 points.
 

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If Morris continues to give the receivers 10 yard cushions, we lose.
Funny because Bucs fans are saying the same about Bowles. He was the hot DC name last year along with Staley.

If we want to win the title we have to beat the champs. Can’t really say a must win game but this is one we should win if we want a chance. Home game against a team we’re going to be competing for home field with is one we need to win.
 

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Sadly I don’t see us winning this game and will be betting for the Bucs this weekend :angry:
 

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For an over simplified prediction, if we handle their ridiculous front 7 in pass protection we outgun them as their secondary is crippled and getting torched.. If their pass rush gets by too often it's going to be a slugfest.
 

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Last year, we held Brady to a passer rating of 62.5 and picked him off twice. Definitely should study that game film!
 

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The key to playing Brady is the same as it has always been. On pass plays, you need to pressure him off his spot. Force him to move and take him out of his comfort zone. Once you do his play is good, not great and that is usually when he will throw INTs. The Rams beat him last year because they were able to do just that.

The key last year was Staley's disguising the coverage. Morris simply doesn't do that and so he puts the defense at a disadvantage against a QB like Brady. It's why simply better than average QBs like Dalton, and Wentz played well against a Morris defense. The coverage disguises were designed by Staley to force QBs to take an extra, half to a full second to read the coverage. That extra second is huge in terms of the pass rush being able to get to the QB.

Raheem will have to play a lot of 2 ILB sets to limit the run. When he did play Reeder & Young the Rams did control the run against two pretty good lead RBs. Their leading RB only had 50 yds. So in other words, if Raheem is going to roll out his cover two then he needs to play basically the same defense set against the Bucs.

The Ram secondary is a good matchup vs the Bucs receivers. That is the other way to force Brady to hold the ball. They need to plaster the receivers early. The Rams really played the Bucs well last year. Their OL is the same as it was last year as well and the D got to Brady and took him off his game. Remember, Goff, outplayed Brady in 2020. The Ram OL is better this year and now the Rams have Stafford at QB. The Rams were built to beat teams like the Bucs and Niners who have a lot of similarities.

Raheem will have last year's film to build his defensive game plan around. It will be essentially the same Buc team he will be facing. The Ram secondary with Williams instead of Hill and bringing in a CB as their nickel such as Rochell and Long will be an upgrade in their secondary over Johnson. Fuller and Rapp are very good safeties, and both have equal range and coverage abilities as Johnson who IMO is overrated especially if played as a FS. Johnson is good but there were solid reasons to move on from him as he's strictly a SS and the Rams already had Fuller and Rapp.. Time and time again he was a step slow in his coverages. That is why in Morris' scheme he plays Rapp and Fuller in his two-deep shell and brings in a fast CB as his nickel.

IMO if Henderson is limited, there won't be much of a drop off having Michel and Funk in rotation at RB. It will be interesting to see if they are coaching up Buddy Howell on the PS to play FB. He certainly has the measurables to play the position at 6' tall, 225 lbs running a 4.6 with the ability to catch dump-offs. If you notice McVay is setting the stage to play two RBs in the backfield when he lines up Woods there. McVay is trying to run a power run blocking scheme without a lead blocker. It can be done but is difficult when the defense negates the OL's ability to pull that OG to compensate for a lack of a FB. That is exactly what has been happening. If the Rams had a true FB lead blocker it would make a difference in the run game. With the emergence of Higbee as a receiving threat, it's time to unveil a 21 personnel set, keeping in mind all the Rams RBs are good receivers as well.

The bottom line is that though I'm concerned about this game, I'm not overly so. The Rams beat a Bucs team that is essentially the same as last year. Meanwhile, the Rams will come in improved at RB as Michel is an upgrade over Malcolm Brown, Allen is an upgrade at center over Blythe and Stafford is an upgrade over Goff at QB. If McVay occasionally uses his 21 personnel he can use Jefferson at X WR with Kupp at Z, and Higbee can run his Y route tree if the play is play-action. Also, take into account that a swing pass to Henderson or Funk is like a long handoff. Either is one broken tackle away from breaking a big run, while Michel or even Howell can provide that dump off option.

Teams are beginning to understand McVay's layered WR approach. He needs to have a change of pace and IMO 21 personnel is the way to go with the personnel they have. IMO this is why the Rams are developing Harris as a TE. A simple chip block before running his Y tree will make him a mismatch for a LB or SS trying to cover him. If Higbee is a threat now, then with Harris' speed the TE position will be forced to scheme coverage for that position weakening both the pass rush and run defense.

IMO the offense we see now is in transition. That is evidenced by their moving away from strictly an outside run attack, to a more power-oriented between the tackles running game, as well as how they are positionally drafting.

Yeah, I'm concerned about this particular game but only from the perspective that they must play a clean game. No more clown acts and mistakes. Play clean and the Rams will win this game, as IMO the only way the Bucs win is if the Rams hand the game to them.
 

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I feel like we're gonna need the run game in this one. Good thing is our OL is better than last year's OL and Michel might be "arriving" at a great time for us here.

Also feel like Morris needs to mix it up on his pre-snap reads a little better. Brady's too smart. You can't let him sit back there and peck you to death. Take away those early down gifts and load that box a little to put his ass in third and longs. That means Arians will be able to take some early down field shots. Well we need to know if Williams is worth paying anyway I guess and maybe it's time to see what our safeties can do.

Bowles is really good at getting pressures when he needs them. I've always respected him for that. But if the Rams balance the offense early I think the offense should be just fine. Problem is to what extent they end up chilling on the bench because our defense can't force a quick series.

I really don't like this matchup. Would have been better to see them later when our defense is hopefully hitting on more cylinders. But this could just as easily end up with the Rams offense blowing them out who knows. Either way it's a really big game for our DC because Arians knows what he's doing.
 

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The Bears punted once the entire game. If Morris plays the same soft scheme he played the first two weeks, the Bucs might not punt the entire game game and will score 40 points.
Hopefully the pass rush is heating up, Wentz’s athletism and size got him out of several sacks but he was definitely harassed. Brady’s not going anywhere so some interior pressure could be just the ticket, now we just need to find a guy who can cause some havoc inside.
 

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Rams gonna win. 34-27 or something similar.

Matthew Stafford gonna light up their secondary.
 

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Shove Sony Michel right down that fucking Bellicheats throat.

Thats how I wanna win this one.
 
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just keep telling Ramsey and Donald all week that Tampa has scored 30+ in 9 straight games and you have no shot....