Show them the money?

[RamDino]

I get the money thing... but Stafford, Donald and Von Miller ought to get together with McVay and Snead and figure this out as a group. Do they want a chance to win another super bowl? Here's what it will take....

 

[Tano]

That's easy for someone to say when not put in that position with millions on the line. Why would I take 5 mil when I'm worth 10? I know me personally you either pay me what I'm worth or someone else will and that's not greed it's knowing what you're worth and not settling for less.

You may not believe me but I know that's what I would do.

I hate the greed in this society.

 

[Tano]

Generally speaking, wealthy people don't leave money on the table or turn down opportunity to make more money. That's how they got to be wealthy in the first place.

Fans are always asking players to take less. It's just not realistic.

And I disagree with the 1 percent people. A lot of them are greedy narcissistic assholes.

 

[Kupped]

You may not believe me but I know that's what I would do.

I hate the greed in this society.

There are millions of people, every day, who don't live like that. They make choices based on multiple factors and money isn't always the difference maker.
I can sat that if I was in a position where I already had enough money to live a life of GREAT comfort and that I could ensure my kids did as well, I would absolutely not be prioritizing making absolute top dollar the priority in any work situation.

 

[dieterbrock]

You may not believe me but I know that's what I would do.

I hate the greed in this society.

And unless you are making 20 mill + per year, you honestly have no idea how you would feel.
I find it comical in asking, where do you draw the line? Why would Stafford be "greedy" if he wanted 45 mill, but not "greedy" taking 35 mill? Heck, put 5 million in ones bank account and they have generational wealth.
Point being, the numbers are all just funny money. When the conversation somehow looks at a league minimum guy making 1 mill per year being a pauper, all perspective is lost. They are all millionaires

 

[El Chapo Jr]

And unless you are making 20 mill + per year, you honestly have no idea how you would feel.
I find it comical in asking, where do you draw the line? Why would Stafford be "greedy" if he wanted 45 mill, but not "greedy" taking 35 mill? Heck, put 5 million in ones bank account and they have generational wealth.
Point being, the numbers are all just funny money. When the conversation somehow looks at a league minimum guy making 1 mill per year being a pauper, all perspective is lost. They are all millionaires

If I'm making 20 mil a year, I'd feel blessed and grateful as fuck. I work in a job where I make more and less than some but it is based on seniority. I don't even think or remotely feel jealous but just happy that I have a career that can support my family in a way we can enjoy life without stressing pay check to pay check. My only drawback is I commute, but I stay doing it because the schedule I have allows me great flexibility so much so that I've looked into per diem time gigs in my area (like 5 minutes away). I'd happily take one of those jobs if they paid me less as long as it isn't a low ball offer that is dwarfed by my current one. I'm not even a millionaire so using that as a reason for saying one doesn't know what they'll do in that situation doesn't ring true for everyone. My values are different than most as I value my time more than money. Time is the ultimate currency in my book. Just my 2 cents.

 

[dieterbrock]

If I'm making 20 mil a year, I'd feel blessed and grateful as fuck. I work in a job where I make more and less than some but it is based on seniority. I don't even think or remotely feel jealous but just happy that I have a career that can support my family in a way we can enjoy life without stressing pay check to pay check. My only drawback is I commute, but I stay doing it because the schedule I have allows me great flexibility so much so that I've looked into per diem time gigs in my area (like 5 minutes away). I'd happily take one of those jobs if they paid me less as long as it isn't a low ball offer that is dwarfed by my current one. I'm not even a millionaire so using that as a reason for saying one doesn't know what they'll do in that situation doesn't ring true for everyone. My values are different than most as I value my time more than money. Time is the ultimate currency in my book. Just my 2 cents.

Sounds great but you still dont know, and its crazy to believe that you think you do.
And if Stafford is greedy for expecting 40+ mill, then Kupp is greedy for his 16 mill, Donald for his 25 mill etc, etc


On a side note, people also have to understand that these guys arent negotiating with the club, they pay an agent to do that. And the agent's job is to get the player the best contract they can get. Because the agents also have a job to do, and when players are looking to hire an agent, track record is first thing they see.

 

[ottoman89]

I'm a farmer. So, we don't make shit. Just enough to get bills paid and have a little extra. But farming isn't about the money, it's about feeding and supplying the world. It's a pride thing. I'm proud as fuck to farm.

With that said, I can't judge athletes for taking what they think is there worth.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Sounds great but you still dont know, and its crazy to believe that you think you do.
And if Stafford is greedy for expecting 40+ mill, then Kupp is greedy for his 16 mill, Donald for his 25 mill etc, etc

Nah I know, but that's just me so I personally will never advise someone what to do money wise as that is their business. I have personally turned down a job that would have paid me a bit more because it just didn't jive with how I wanted to live my life along with my family time. Money is important but it isn't everything. As a saying goes where I grew up, all money isn't good money. By the way, those guys are part of a system that was built on greed. I get that they are just getting paid what the NFL norm is but when looked at thru a bigger lenses, athletes are extremely overpaid in my eyes when compared to other professions that contribute way more to our quality of life. You can never convince me otherwise. Doesn't mean I won't be a football fan. Just what I believe in.

 

[dieterbrock]

Nah I know, but that's just me so I personally will never advise someone what to do money wise as that is their business. I have personally turned down a job that would have paid me a bit more because it just didn't jive with how I wanted to live my life along with my family time. Money is important but it isn't everything. As a saying goes where I grew up, all money isn't good money. By the way, those guys are part of a system that was built on greed. I get that they are just getting paid what the NFL norm is but when looked at thru a bigger lenses, athletes are extremely overpaid in my eyes when compared to other professions that contribute way more to our quality of life. You can never convince me otherwise. Doesn't mean I won't be a football fan. Just what I believe in.

And none of what you are referring to is the reality that these players live in.
It's like people without kids assuming they know how they'll be as parents. No idea how different the world is then and how you view things

 

[Giles]

I get the money thing... but Stafford, Donald and Von Miller ought to get together with McVay and Snead and figure this out as a group. Do they want a chance to win another super bowl? Here's what it will take....

Obviously not since the rams have paid how many players top dollar and still won the sb. It's the teams responsibility to figure out how to work the cap.....not the players.

 

[RamDino]

It's the teams responsibility to figure out how to work the cap.....not the players.

I don't disagree with this. But those 3 guys are all getting new contracts, and the team might not be able to afford all three. If they want to try to win another super bowl, their best bet is to have all three on board next year, and I would bet that they would all like to try. The worst thing that could happen is to have Von Miller (for example) leave without even getting an offer from the Rams because Donald and Stafford are getting 50 million per year. I will never forget what Aaron Rogers said last year... "I've been here for 15 years, and longer than the coaches and GM's, and I think I've earned the right to express my opinion on what players I think could help us win another super bowl" (not sure if I should have quoted that but you get the point). As much as I believe Rogers is a douche... he made a lot of sense. I'm probably just speaking as a fan and, as always, JMHO.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

And none of what you are referring to is the reality that these players live in.
It's like people without kids assuming they know how they'll be as parents. No idea how different the world is then and how you view things

So players don't make certain considerations that leaves money on the table vs being somewhere they rather personally be because it works better for their life? The term home town discount wasn't created out of thin air lol. Taking opportunities of less money for a more ideal situation in ones life is a reality everyone deals with. Some people take the money and some people don't. I'm extremely sure where I land on that choice so not sure why that would be questioned. However, no one, myself included is like, hey Stafford get way below market value that it's a slap in the face just so we can win. We're just hoping he doesn't break the bank to the point where we have to make even more tough decisions ......we'll just agree to disagree on this one though and that's ok. Unrealistic to see eye to eye on every subject with everyone and that's cool with me. It's what makes life's conversations interesting.

 

[CanadaRam]

Players need to make the best financial decisions for themselves.
That said, the best financial decision is not just what they can make in there next contract.
Players will have at least 30 years of earning possibilities after their playing days are over.
I would imagine for many (especially top players), these earnings are increased by being SB champion.
AD winning another SB or two would possibly have him being seen as GOAT defensive player (similar to Brady seen as GOAT). Are AD's chances higher by looking at his contract situation similar to Brady? How important is it to him.

 

[Tano]

Nah I know, but that's just me so I personally will never advise someone what to do money wise as that is their business. I have personally turned down a job that would have paid me a bit more because it just didn't jive with how I wanted to live my life along with my family time. Money is important but it isn't everything. As a saying goes where I grew up, all money isn't good money. By the way, those guys are part of a system that was built on greed. I get that they are just getting paid what the NFL norm is but when looked at thru a bigger lenses, athletes are extremely overpaid in my eyes when compared to other professions that contribute way more to our quality of life. You can never convince me otherwise. Doesn't mean I won't be a football fan. Just what I believe in.

Agree completely

 

[Tano]

And unless you are making 20 mill + per year, you honestly have no idea how you would feel.
I find it comical in asking, where do you draw the line? Why would Stafford be "greedy" if he wanted 45 mill, but not "greedy" taking 35 mill? Heck, put 5 million in ones bank account and they have generational wealth.
Point being, the numbers are all just funny money. When the conversation somehow looks at a league minimum guy making 1 mill per year being a pauper, all perspective is lost. They are all millionaires

You don't know me so you can't know how I feel about money or my values.

So give up trying to say I would not know how I would be in their situation.

 

[Tano]

Of course I should probably add that I am 60 years old now and I know how I feel about money nowadays.

May have been a bit different when I was younger

 

[Ramon Ram]

Looks like Rams showing Miller the money, but is it enough and will it help drive cap space to hell in hope of running it back?


VON MILLERLB, LOS ANGELES RAMS

The Athletic's Jourdan Rodrigue reports the Rams are confident that their $14-16 million contract offer will convince Von Miller to re-sign.​

The Rams plan to offer Miller a contract that "could range from $14 million to $16 million per year, possibly over a two-year span, and which doesn’t seem to have a hard ceiling as of this publication," per Rodrigue. Miller will have no shortage of interest if he hits the open market, so the Rams would prefer to get him back under contract prior to Monday, if possible. Miller has publicly mused about returning to Denver, which now seems like a far more appealing option with Russell Wilson under center. With reports that Miller could command up to $20 million annually, it's quite possible that Miller can beat the Rams offer if he hits free agency. However, the Rams offer the appeal of a back-to-back Super Bowl run.