Should we bring back Higbee and/or Havenstein?

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I just want to expand on why I'm a hard "no."

Those roster spots are important and critical for developing the next wave of talent.
Higbee will be 33 next year.. Havenstein will be 34.


It's just time, guys. Let new leaders emerge.. let younger players step up when they've earned it... and all of the players behind those two have earned it.

There's also the money aspect... way cheaper to pay two rookies than those veterans. You'll need every penny with guys like Puka set to get new contracts.


it's just time.
Pretty sure the Thread Question was about bringing Higbee and/or Havenstein back from Injured Reserve in the coming weeks (both are eligible), given how well McClendon and the TEs are currently playing.

As for next season, both players are on expiring contracts. They are gone unless the Rams re-sign them, which seems unlikely for the reasons you raised.
 
This is a hell of a question. I think Big Rob coming back isn't a terrible idea, it's hard to take someone starting job from them due to injury. But McClendon has played his ass off ...I wanna say AT LEAST to Robs level....if not better.


Now Higbee....I won't have a fair answer, as I've always thought he was overpaid for what he produces and how hurt it always is. Annnnnd Colby is playing pretty awesome
 
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I just want to expand on why I'm a hard "no."

Those roster spots are important and critical for developing the next wave of talent.
Higbee will be 33 next year.. Havenstein will be 34.
Higs has had multiple injuries and wasn't performing as well as Parkinson. The Rams have 3 really good TEs right now.. you draft another mid-round prospect in hopes of having one ready when you lose one of those three (or maybe even two of them).
Hav's best ball is way behind him... and I love the guy. McClendon has significantly outperformed him this year and is younger, cheaper and, likely, just entering his prime.
Rams should draft a tackle this year.. maybe as high as the second round.. to develop.

It's just time, guys. Let new leaders emerge.. let younger players step up when they've earned it... and all of the players behind those two have earned it.

There's also the money aspect... way cheaper to pay two rookies than those veterans. You'll need every penny with guys like Puka set to get new contracts.

You can't afford to be sentimental in this league and the Rams know that. They were willing to eat money to move on from Kupp....
it's just time.
I wouldn't say the Rams have "3 really good TEs right now." I would say we have one very good TE, another a serviceable TE, and another still learning on the job.

As for Kupp, if Puka hadn't emerged he might still be in a Rams uniform.... Nobody thought Puka would had turned into the WR he is now.

As for Havenstein, I think there's an argument there both ways. But he's a good insurance plan if somebody goes down.

As illuded to by another member, next season would be more ideal to address the Higbee / Havenstein situation, but for now I think if they can get back on the field this season we should make the available IMO.
 
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That's not an ironclad rule that you can't lose your job to injury. It's when justified when the replacement is doing much better than the previous starter was.

Parkinson was already surpassing Higbee as the starter when Higbee got injured. Parkinson started in weeks 7 and 10 in Higbee's place and he was outsnapping Higs after the bye. For sure they bring Higbee back but not necessarily to start.
How do we even determine the “starter” when the Rams are likely to open up in 13 personnel? Most snaps? Targets? Not trying to be a dick, but…who cares?

McVay has /has had a vision when it comes to the TE group. We’re seeing it now with so much depth on the roster.

One thing for sure is McVay has always wanted a more dynamic weapon at TE—something Higbee falls just short of, while Parkinson is on track to becoming one. Parkinson has shown this year he has better hands. He’s made a few very tough catches.

The Rams have spent 3 picks on TEs in the McVay era, including two 2nd rounders, in an effort to replace Higbee. Nobody has been able to surpass him with performance. Only injuries and Father Time are getting him off the field. He’s gonna have value down the stretch playing alongside Parkinson.
 
We have witnessed the passing of the torch on both of those starting roles, in the best way possible.
The Rams ability to develop players is astounding.
Their ability to find gems in the late rounds, pretty unbelievable.
They even do an amazing job of rejuvenating other teams cuts.

For that reason I'm thinking a big game is possible out of McCreary.
I remember when we were thinking
Ahkello Witherspoon was a maybe or a waste of time and now we can't wait for him to get back. :)
 
McClendon has played his ass off ...I wanna say AT LEAST to Robs level....if not better.


Now Higbee....I won't have a fair answer, as I've always thought he was overpaid for what he produces and how hurt he always is. Annnnnd Colby is playing pretty awesome
I think you're correct on both counts.
 
Yes, they should both be brought back from IR because you can never have enough depth and they are still good players. Now if you want to ask the question "should they play?" well that's a different can of worms. Right now I'd lean towards no on Havenstein unless called upon due to injury and Higs yeah he should be part of the TE rotation. But I wouldn't lose my mind if they decide to start either of them.
 
The Rams ability to develop players is astounding.
Their ability to find gems in the late rounds, pretty unbelievable.
They even do an amazing job of rejuvenating other teams cuts.

For that reason I'm thinking a big game is possible out of McCreary.
I remember when we were thinking
Ahkello Witherspoon was a maybe or a waste of time and now we can't wait for him to get back. :)

Yeah, I bet McCreary is biting at the bit to earn a new contract. I am excited to see him play now that Shula has had time to think about how he fits the scheme.
 
The Rams ability to develop players is astounding.
Their ability to find gems in the late rounds, pretty unbelievable.
They even do an amazing job of rejuvenating other teams cuts.

For that reason I'm thinking a big game is possible out of McCreary.
I remember when we were thinking
Ahkello Witherspoon was a maybe or a waste of time and now we can't wait for him to get back. :)

Yeah, I bet McCreary is biting at the bit to earn a new contract. I am excited to see him play now that Shula has had time to think about how he fits the scheme.
 
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I have seen McCreary mentioned in a few posts but have not heard or read anything that says he is off the IL.

Did I miss something? ... Again!
 
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I have a question. Does anyone know if we have any IR returns left? I thought that you only get four.
 
I have a question. Does anyone know if we have any IR returns left? I thought that you only get four.
FROM AI Search: Under NFL rules, teams can designate up to eight players to return from injured reserve (IR) during the regular season, and postseason teams can have an additional two. A player on IR-to-return must miss a minimum of four games, and after being cleared to practice, the team has a 21-day window to activate them to the 53-man roster or place them on season-ending IR
 
Now Higbee....I won't have a fair answer, as I've always thought he was overpaid for what he produces and how hurt it always is. Annnnnd Colby is playing pretty awesome
The way I see it, Higbee was never overpaid...just under used. He's a great blocker, and McVay used him to block and shore up pass pro more than receiving.
 
FROM AI Search: Under NFL rules, teams can designate up to eight players to return from injured reserve (IR) during the regular season, and postseason teams can have an additional two. A player on IR-to-return must miss a minimum of four games, and after being cleared to practice, the team has a 21-day window to activate them to the 53-man roster or place them on season-ending IR
Maybe what I saw was that they had four left. Not sure where we currently stand on returns