Should the Rams trade out of the first round of the NFL draft?

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It's about HITTING on the picks. So if you presume to hit on the picks, then yes it is generally smart to move down.

Problem is for every Colts story from last year there's a counter story of a team moving down and not getting much from it. So if at the most basic level you equate moving up with being sold on a player being someone you're going to hit on, and who also fits your scheme and what you want, I see nothing wrong with it and have to think it can definitely work out for you.

Look at our trade up for GOFF for example. What do all those other picks mean? Did we get relegated to a 5 year timeout in our team mattering because of what we gave up to get him? No. Did the Titans become a perennial powerhouse from moving down and getting said haul of picks? No.

Look at the Patriots. They whiff like other teams and even on high picks. Does it cripple them? No.

Honestly I think it goes back to a great staff and organization. Does your staff and front office work together to acquire talent? Does the staff maximize the talent brought in and prepare/develop them well? Does the front office have a good handle on talent appraisal to ensure you can maneuver on draft day with confidence? And so on. Because hitting on the picks is what matters, so if you want to move down fine, or if you want to move up fine. I don't think the moving up or down really is what matters and if it did someone would put up a correlation ranking hit/miss rates on each. Because that is what we need to see in order to back up that type of article.
 

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I think the only way trading down makes any sense at all, is if they only trade down a few spots, and even then, only if they feel confident they can pull a "New England" and then trade that pick for a team's 1st rounder next year. Basically, to say "we were too low in the 1st round this year, so we punt".
 

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Our lack of proven Interior line play is concerning to me personally.

It’s the one position group where if you have an injury or Allen/Noteboom busts then you could go from #2 offense to middle of the pack offense, and missing the playoffs.

I am in win now mode with Donald in his prime and Goff on his rookie deal.

I’m taking a guard in Rd 1 or moving up a few spots if i have to.
 

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if a team will give a premium trade value for a 5th year option they should at least look at it.
 

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It all depends on who is available. If there is a player that the Rams rank as a top tier talent, then take him. I wouldn’t want to pass on an All Pro talent.

It’s tough to say without knowing how their board is stacked and who they value where. If they think the top 15 - 60 are all the same in talent then sure, trade away.

If they think after the top 96 sucks and all they can get is a fourth plus moving back then why bother.
 

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Our lack of proven Interior line play is concerning to me personally.

It’s the one position group where if you have an injury or Allen/Noteboom busts then you could go from #2 offense to middle of the pack offense, and missing the playoffs.

I am in win now mode with Donald in his prime and Goff on his rookie deal.

I’m taking a guard in Rd 1 or moving up a few spots if I have to.
I believe Snead will be in a very good position to accomplish the goal of improving our OL depth with quality personnel by either staying @ 1st/#31 or sliding down a bit to acquire several additional selections. There is no telling how this draft will go with the 30 selection by teams in front of the Rams, but I do think there is a very good probability that some excellent prospects DL/ER/OL & CB's will be there that will help improve this Ram team in the future. I feel really good :banana:about this upcoming draft & intend on enjoying every minute of it:rockon:. It's great to have a Snead!:yess:
 

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Everything is fluid on draft day. You never know what teams will reach for a player and what players will drop. You have to be ready for anything in that 10 minute time frame.

Ideally, if we could drop to the middle of the 2nd round and pick up another 3rd rounder that would be the best case scenario. But you have to have a trade partner. The only scenario I see that happening is if a quarterback drops and a quarterback needy team wants to trade up.

Other than QB's I don't see other position players being coveted enough to trade up and give up a 2nd and 3rd. I think with that 5th year option its quite possible the Rams remain where they're at and pick a solid player.
 

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Trading down is for teams that need to acquire quantity vs. quality.

That's not where this team is.

I actually think we DO need a little quantity. We HAVE some elite talent in place, but we have depth issues in more places than I am comfortable right now. CB, LB, DL, even OL.

IMO
 

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I actually think we DO need a little quantity. We HAVE some elite talent in place, but we have depth issues in more places than I am comfortable right now. CB, LB, DL, even OL.

IMO

You probably described all 32 teams. In this day and age, its nearly impossible to have quality depth with the salary cap. Quantity in the draft is the best way to achieve depth, but you need some quality to win. And some luck on the injury front.
 

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Is the 5th year option for 1st round draft picks guaranteed to be grandfathered when the players are playing under a new CBA?
 

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You probably described all 32 teams. In this day and age, its nearly impossible to have quality depth with the salary cap. Quantity in the draft is the best way to achieve depth, but you need some quality to win. And some luck on the injury front.

Good point, snackdaddy.
 

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Our lack of proven Interior line play is concerning to me personally.

It’s the one position group where if you have an injury or Allen/Noteboom busts then you could go from #2 offense to middle of the pack offense, and missing the playoffs.

I am in win now mode with Donald in his prime and Goff on his rookie deal.

I’m taking a guard in Rd 1 or moving up a few spots if i have to.

Completely agree. I'm hoping we grab an O lineman @31 or even higher.
 

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To me - the one thing the trade value chart does not take into account is the 5th year option. The point system predates the current CBA and that 5th year option matters.

IMO the new CBA has upped the value of picks because of the option you point out and the lower salaries. I think GM's would agree with me on that. The old draft value chart needs to be updated.
 

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Is the 5th year option for 1st round draft picks guaranteed to be grandfathered when the players are playing under a new CBA?


Everything is negotiable of course... but I would highly doubt the 5th year option would he removed from anyone drafted under the current system.
 

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Ideally, if we could drop to the middle of the 2nd round and pick up another 3rd rounder that would be the best case scenario. But you have to have a trade partner. The only scenario I see that happening is if a quarterback drops and a quarterback needy team wants to trade up.

Other than QB's I don't see other position players being coveted enough to trade up and give up a 2nd and 3rd. I think with that 5th year option its quite possible the Rams remain where they're at and pick a solid player.


Yeah, I wouldn't be happy unless we got 2 2's out of the deal...and I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.
I agree - I think we keep pick #31.
 

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I doubt it happens, but a trade of just a few slots down could net a fourth which might be used to move up big time in the third. If there is a lot of value early in the 2nd but Snead and McVay think that the best values end around pick 85 or so, that might make sense.
 

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Likely yes. But it depends on which player is available at #31.
 

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Less than a week...

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