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Weigh-ins were today. Interesting week ahead.



2021 Senior Bowl: Winners and losers from the offensive weigh-ins
Joe DeLeone 5 hrs ago


The 2021 Senior Bowl officially kicked off Tuesday with weigh-ins. As players prepared for their first day of practice, the staff in Mobile measured prospects to answer questions of talent evaluators.

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This year’s Senior Bowl holds a lot more importance than it typically would with no NFL Combine being held, meaning getting these measurements now is crucial. It also means these numbers will be dissected a lot until every player participates in their pro day. Player length and size will always be important for teams looking for distinct advantages.

Check out which players on the offensive side of the ball had impressive or underwhelming measurements.
Winners
  • Aaron Banks (IOL Notre Dame) - Banks was a consistent blocker all season for Notre Dame and is already picking up some serious buzz as a Day 2 prospect. We were reminded very quickly how massive of a human being Banks is during his weigh-in. At 6-foot-5, Banks was 338 pounds with 33-inch arms and 10 1/8 inch hands. That is one big dude who can be a serious mauler on any NFL offensive line.
  • Spencer Brown (OT Northern Iowa) - Brown is another lineman who re-affirmed how large of an athlete they were. Brown’s height, length, and mobility are rare for an offensive tackle. At 6-8, his arms measured out to 34 inches with 10 3/8 inch hands. Brown has a ton of potential and plenty of room to add to his 314-pound frame.
  • Ben Cleveland (IOL Georgia) - Speaking of physical freaks, Cleveland might be the leanest athlete for his weight. Listed at over 6-foot-6, the Georgia guard weighed in at 354 pounds despite most of that appearing to be muscle.
  • Feleipe Franks (QB Arkansas) - Franks isn’t one of the top quarterback names at the Senior Bowl this year, but he does have strong upside because of his arm talent. Franks measured in as the largest quarterback at over 6-foot-6 and 234 pounds with 10-inch hands. Teams have always valued large quarterbacks, especially for a developmental one.
  • Carson Green (OT Texas A&M) - Green adds to the list of massive lineman at the Senior Bowl. Any time a lineman measures 34-inch arms and 10 3/8 inch hands, it’s certainly worth noting. Green hit both of those metrics, making him a tackle with prototypical length.
  • Cornell Powell (WR Clemson) - Powell isn’t one of the bigger receivers down in Mobile, but he does have a surprising metric for his hand size that you typically don’t see for receivers. Powell’s 10-inch hands are a major positive to have for a receiver who is only 6-foot.
  • D’Ante Smith (OT Eastern Carolina) - Smith is a very underrated and under-talked about name participating in the Senior Bowl. His length is draw dropping with over 35-inch arms and 10-inch hands. Length for tackles is a major area of focus, and Smith surpasses the thresholds you want in a developmental tackle.
Losers
  • Kylen Granson (TE SMU) - Despite being listed at 6-foot-3 on the team’s roster, Granson only measured in at 6-2 with 32-inch arms and sub-10-inch hands. Anytime a tight end lacks is at only 6-2 it’s a concern, but the added length issues add concern to his physical makeup.
  • Creed Humphrey (C Oklahoma) - Humphrey is currently a name being floated out as the first center drafted this year. Understandably, centers typically have the shortest metrics for arm length, but Humphrey’s 31-inch arms are not good to see. Humphrey is a player good enough to outplay these concerns during the week of practice, but scouts will be making a negative note for his arm size.
  • Drake Jackson (C Kentucky) - If there was one player who measured in with the most underwhelming numbers it would have to be Jackson. He falls under every measurement requirement you like to see from a draftable interior offensive lineman. Jackson was only listed at just under 6-foot-2, 290 pounds, 31-inch arms, and 8 1/2 inch hands. While Jackson might outplay his size, those are not good numbers to see on a draftable prospect.
  • DeVonta Smith (WR Alabama) - Unlike the remaining players on this list, Smith being listed as a loser probably won’t impact his draft stock much. The concern comes from not weighing in with so many question marks about his weight. The thin-framed receiver dominated secondaries, but many teams will be concerned with investing a top-15 pick in a receiver playing under 170 pounds. Smith was listed at 175 at the start of the 2020 season, but not providing a weight at the Senior Bowl screams that he might be closer to 165. Smith will have time to add to his weight before his pro day, but with three months to accomplish this, he needs to be more than 180.

Check out the full list of measurements here.
 

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6'6" 350+ lbs with no fat. I mean WTF did they feed that kid. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Creed Humphrey (C Oklahoma) - Humphrey is currently a name being floated out as the first center drafted this year. Understandably, centers typically have the shortest metrics for arm length, but Humphrey’s 31-inch arms are not good to see. Humphrey is a player good enough to outplay these concerns during the week of practice, but scouts will be making a negative note for his arm size.
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Maybe because of his size, Smith will fall to us at #57.
 

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A few other notes I have. Drake Jackson might have been a loser when doing the measurements, but he went out and had a great practice. The guy doesn't look like much, but he's a baller on the field. D'Ante Smith is a name worth watching. He needs to get bigger, but he's long and has stellar movement skills. Might be a developmental LT we consider. There are some massive OLs at the Senior Bowl this year. Ben Cleveland (mentioned above), Deonte Brown, Trey Smith, and Aaron Banks are massive men.
 

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Ben Cleveland (IOL Georgia)
D’Ante Smith (OT Eastern Carolina)
Cornell Powell (WR Clemson)
Drake Jackson (C Kentucky)
Rashad Weaver (Pittsburgh), Ade Ogundeji (Notre Dame), Quincy Roche (Miami)
Camryn Bynum California CB


All players I like and am watching this week.
 

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2021 Senior Bowl roster reveal: What you need to know

The 2021 Reese's Senior Bowl is beginning to zero in on the last of its player selections after announcing another round of accepted invitations on Wednesday's Roster Reveal Show with NFL.com analysts Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah of the Move the Sticks Podcast. Senior Bowl executive director Jim Nagy and the Senior Bowl's staff of regional scouts fill two 55-man rosters with draft-worthy seniors and graduating juniors for the annual all-star game in Mobile, Alabama, which is scheduled for Jan. 30 in its new home of Hancock Whitney Stadium at the University of South Alabama. It will be televised by NFL Network. Here are five things to know:
  1. Florida's Kyle Trask and Notre Dame's Ian Book headline the Senior Bowl quarterback class so far; three of the eight passers who will participate in the annual all-star game are yet to be announced. Trask's second year as the Gators' starter demanded significantly more attention from NFL scouts. He has prototypical size (6-foot-5, 240 pounds, per UF) and torched a 10-game SEC-only schedule for a 40:5 touchdown-to-interception ratio, showcasing a knack for seeing the field and connecting with secondary reads. Book, smaller but more athletic than Trask, led an undefeated regular season for the Fighting Irish as a third-year starter. He's quickened his decision-making in 2020, showing NFL clubs a more polished game despite a dip in TD passes (2.6 per game in 2019, 1.5 in 2020). The last three Senior Bowls have given NFL scouts a close look at five first-round quarterback selections, four of whom are current NFL starters: Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen. Green Bay Packers 2020 first-rounder Jordan Love remains a rookie reserve, and Eagles second-rounder Jalen Hurts was a participant in last year's Senior Bowl, as well.
  2. Wake Forest's Carlos "Boogie" Basham Jr. will draw plenty of scouting attention among the Senior Bowl's defensive linemen. According to one NFL scout, Basham drew far more double-teaming this season than last, which limited his statistical production. He won't have to worry about that so much in Mobile, where one-on-one pass-rush drills pitting some of college football's top linemen can be a money-maker for the dominant performers, and always attract a heavy contingent of scouts during the practice week. Basham (6-foot-5, 285 pounds, per school measurements) played just seven games for a Demon Deacons team that was only able to get in eight this season, but still managed a team-high five sacks. He should be among the first Senior Bowlers to come off the board in the April draft.
  3. Entering this season, NFL evaluators wanted to see if Oklahoma State WR Tylan Wallace would rebound from a torn ACL he suffered in November 2019. He responded by leading the Cowboys in every key receiving category, and he'll give scouts one more look as one of the 2021 Senior Bowl's top pass catchers. Wallace, whose divergent college football journey with twin Tracin Wallace was profiled by NFL.com in September, is a smooth route runner who plays a physical brand for his size (6-0, 190 pounds, per school). A couple other receivers scouts are excited about: Florida's Kadarius Toney, for whom the Senior Bowl will be something of a homecoming -- Toney attended Mobile (Ala.) Blount High -- and his teammate at UF, Trevon Grimes. Brooks is especially impressed with Grimes, a big target at 6-4, 220 pounds. "I expect Trevon Grimes to be a dominant performer, having watched him since he was in high school. He has a lot of traits that NFL executives will love," Brooks said. "He's big, he's physical, he has great hands on contested balls. And he has a physicality about him that is going to make him a natural No. 1 receiver. Some, I think, will compare him to a poor man's Mike Evans in terms of his ability to play big down the field."
  4. Last year's Senior Bowl produced four first-round picks: the aforementioned Herbert and Love, DT Javon Kinlaw and WR Brandon Aiyuk. Herbert helped solidify his position as a top-10 pick with a strong performance in Mobile, earning both Practice Player of the Week and game MVP honors. Kinlaw withdrew from the game mid-week with an injury, but got just enough practice time in to show elite power and explosiveness. Standout rookies Chase Claypool (Steelers), Antonio Gibson(Washington Football Team) and Jeremy Chinn (Panthers) came through the Senior Bowl ranks, too. Of the 110 players chosen for the game, Nagy gathered 93 who were eventually drafted, including 37 of the draft's top 100 picks. With a few roster spots in the 2021 Senior Bowl still yet to be claimed, some of the top prospects accepting 2021 invitations include Basham, Alabama interior O-lineman Landon Dickerson and Florida State DT Marvin Wilson.
  5. Jeremiah called next month's Senior Bowl the most important one ever for NFL evaluators due to the effect the COVID-19 pandemic has had on the 2020 college season. NFL scouts were not permitted by the NFL to make weekday visits to college campuses to watch practices in the fall, and were also somewhat limited in attending games. Between opt outs, shortened schedules and canceled games, there is a shortage of data on prospects, and the Senior Bowl can help close that gap in a more profound way than usual. Few if any will have more scouting eyes on him than Jamie Newman. The former Wake Forest QB transferred to Georgia but never played for the Bulldogs after opting out of the season due to COVID-19. "This will be the first opportunity to see him in about a year, so this will be a huge, huge platform for him in the evaluation process," Jeremiah said.

2021 Senior Bowl participants

Note: Roster is subject to change based on announcements from the Senior Bowl.
  • Ian Book, Notre Dame
  • Sam Ehlinger, Texas
  • Feleipe Franks, Arkansas
  • Mac Jones, Alabama
  • Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
  • Jamie Newman, Wake Forest/Georgia
  • Kyle Trask, Florida
  • Michael Carter, North Carolina
  • Chris Evans, Michigan
  • Najee Harris, Alabama
  • Khalil Herbert, Virginia Tech
  • Kylin Hill, Mississippi State
  • Ben Mason, Michigan (FB)
  • Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
  • Larry Rountree III, Missouri
  • Trey Sermon, Ohio State
  • Rhamondre Stevenson, Oklahoma
  • Nico Collins, Michigan
  • Frank Darby, Arizona State
  • D'Wayne Eskridge, Western Michigan
  • Demetric Felton, UCLA
  • Dez Fitzpatrick, Louisville
  • Trevon Grimes, Florida
  • Cade Johnson, South Dakota State
  • Racey McMath, LSU
  • Josh Palmer, Tennessee
  • Cornell Powell, Clemson
  • Amari Rodgers, Clemson
  • Ben Skowronek, Notre Dame
  • DeVonta Smith, Alabama
  • Shi Smith, South Carolina
  • Marquez Stevenson, Houston
  • Sage Surratt, Wake Forest
  • Kadarius Toney, Florida
  • Tylan Wallace, Oklahoma State
  • Austin Watkins Jr., UAB
  • John Bates, Boise State
  • Kylen Granson, SMU
  • Noah Gray, Duke
  • Tre' McKitty, Georgia
  • Quintin Morris, Bowling Green
  • Tony Poljan, Virginia
  • Kenny Yeboah, Mississippi
  • Spencer Brown, Northern Iowa
  • Jake Curhan, Cal
  • Adrian Ealy, Oklahoma
  • Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame
  • Carson Green, Texas A&M
  • James Hudson, Cincinnati
  • Alaric Jackson, Iowa
  • Brenden Jaimes, Nebraska
  • Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State
  • Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
  • Dan Moore Jr., Texas A&M
  • Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
  • Dillon Radunz, North Dakota State
  • D'Ante Smith, East Carolina
  • Jack Anderson, Texas Tech
  • Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
  • Deonte Brown, Alabama
  • Ben Cleveland, Georgia
  • Landon Dickerson, Alabama
  • Robert Hainsey, Notre Dame
  • Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
  • Drake Jackson, Kentucky
  • Robert Jones, Middle Tennessee
  • Quinn Meinerz, Wisconsin-Whitewater
  • David Moore, Grambling State
  • Josh Myers, Ohio State
  • Royce Newman, Mississippi
  • Trey Smith, Tennessee
  • William Bradley-King, Baylor
  • Jonathon Cooper, Ohio State
  • Daelin Hayes, Notre Dame
  • Patrick Jones II, Pittsburgh
  • Malcolm Koonce, Buffalo
  • Dayo Odeyingbo, Vanderbilt
  • Hamilcar Rashed Jr., Oregon State
  • Janarius Robinson, Florida State
  • Quincy Roche, Miami
  • Elerson Smith, Northern Iowa
  • Shaka Toney, Penn State
  • Carlos Basham Jr., Wake Forest
  • Chauncey Golston, Iowa
  • Ta'Quon Graham, Texas
  • Malik Herring, Georgia
  • Tarron Jackson, Coastal Carolina
  • Osa Odighizuwa, UCLA
  • Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Notre Dame
  • Levi Onwuzurike, Washington
  • Cameron Sample, Tulane
  • Jordan Smith, UAB
  • Marlon Tuipulotu, DT
  • Payton Turner, Houston
  • Rashad Weaver, Pittsburgh
  • Marvin Wilson, Florida State
  • Derrick Barnes, Purdue
  • Tuf Borland, Ohio State
  • K.J. Britt, Auburn
  • Baron Browning, Ohio State
  • Riley Cole, South Alabama
  • Jabril Cox, LSU
  • Tony Fields II, West Virginia
  • Paddy Fisher, Northwestern
  • Justin Hilliard, Ohio State
  • Monty Rice, Georgia
  • Charles Snowden, Virginia
  • Grant Stuard, Houston
  • Chazz Surratt, North Carolina
  • Garrett Wallow, TCU
  • Tre Brown, Oklahoma
  • Camryn, Bynum, Cal
  • DJ Daniel, Georgia
  • Thomas Graham Jr., Oregon
  • Darren Hall, San Diego State
  • Ifeatu Melifonwu, Syracuse
  • Bryan Mills, North Carolina Central
  • Elijah Molden, Washington
  • Tre Norwood, Oklahoma
  • Aaron Robinson, UCF
  • Robert Rochell, Central Arkansas
  • Benjamin St-Juste, Minnesota
  • Keith Taylor, Washington
  • Ambry Thomas, Michigan
  • Mark Webb, Georgia
  • Rodarius Williams, Oklahoma State
  • Joshuah Bledsoe, Missouri
  • Jaquan Brisker, Penn State
  • Shawn Davis, Florida
  • Divine Deablo, Virginia Tech
  • Tyree Gillespie, Missouri
  • Richie Grant, UCF
  • Damar Hamlin, Pittsburgh
  • Richard LeCounte III, Georgia
  • Hamsah Nasirildeen, Florida State
  • JaCoby Stevens, LSU
  • Christian Uphoff, Illinois State
  • James Wiggins, Cincinnati
  • Jose Borregales, K, Miami
  • Camaron Cheeseman, LS, Michigan
  • Max Duffy, P, Kentucky
  • Thomas Fletcher, LS, Alabama
  • Ryan Langan, LS, Georgia Southern
  • Riley Patterson, K, Memphis
  • James Smith, P, Cincinnati
 

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6'6" 350+ lbs with no fat. I mean WTF did they feed that kid. :ROFLMAO:

I had to google him to see... now that would be a guy I'd enjoy seeing road grading the middle of a defensive line. Kind of a slightly miniature version of the Mountain from Game of Thrones lol.
 

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Ben Mason, Michigan (FB)

I like how they single out that Ben Mason plays fullback -- like is it some sort of mark? Notice, no other position for any other player is listed. It's like he plays fullback, everyone run away!

FWIW, dude played a little TE at UM and they're working him out there:

Mason works at TE


Ben Mason spent a good chunk of his four years at Michigan playing fullback, but it looks like he’s in the midst of a transition to tight end.


Mason lined up mostly at the tight end spot on Tuesday, with an emphasis on blocking defenders, running routes over the middle of the field and catching passes.


With the lack of an appetite for a fullback at the NFL level, it makes sense that the big-bodied Mason — who measured almost 6-foot-3 and 256 pounds — might give teams a look at tight end.


He was also active on special teams, alongside long snapper Camaron Cheeseman, making himself more appealing to prospective suitors.

 

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6’6” 354 mostly muscle ...ffs. @jrry32 whats his deal? Measurables make me feel like he should be a blue chipper. Looks good on film in the one video I could find on YouTube
 

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6’6” 354 mostly muscle ...ffs. @jrry32 whats his deal? Measurables make me feel like he should be a blue chipper. Looks good on film in the one video I could find on YouTube

I haven't evaluated him yet. My understanding is that there are positional and scheme limitations with him. He's seen as an average athlete, which makes him a tougher fit in a ZBS, and as a guard-only prospect.
 

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Trey Smith and Drake Jackson are the offensive linemen I have my eye on. Cleveland isn't on my radar, even though his size is impressive; I don't think he fits our offensive line scheme. Kromer needs players to move, and he just isn't that mobile. I think he'd be an excellent fit in a power scheme, but since we don't run one...well, yeah.
 

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Trey Smith and Drake Jackson are the offensive linemen I have my eye on. Cleveland isn't on my radar, even though his size is impressive; I don't think he fits our offensive line scheme. Kromer needs players to move, and he just isn't that mobile. I think he'd be an excellent fit in a power scheme, but since we don't run one...well, yeah.

I'm going to take a look at him and Deonte Brown, even if it seems they don't fit our offense, because sometimes guys surprise you in the NFL. Kromer has gotten good/great play out of some big boys over the past decade, including Cordy Glenn, Carl Nicks, Richie Incognito, Kyle Long, and Rodger Saffold. Granted that all those guys, except maybe Cogs, were good athletes for their size. But looking at the 2020 season, Michael Onwenu and Damien Lewis are a couple of big boys who had themselves phenomenal rookie years.
 

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I'm going to take a look at him and Deonte Brown, even if it seems they don't fit our offense, because sometimes guys surprise you in the NFL. Kromer has gotten good/great play out of some big boys over the past decade, including Cordy Glenn, Carl Nicks, Richie Incognito, Kyle Long, and Rodger Saffold. Granted that all those guys, except maybe Cogs, were good athletes for their size. But looking at the 2020 season, Michael Onwenu and Damien Lewis are a couple of big boys who had themselves phenomenal rookie years.

I'm not against bigger linemen myself (I was the one who wanted Becton the most.), but they have to fit the scheme. If Cleveland and Brown are athletic enough, sure, but I don't see it with either.
 

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I'm going to take a look at him and Deonte Brown, even if it seems they don't fit our offense, because sometimes guys surprise you in the NFL. Kromer has gotten good/great play out of some big boys over the past decade, including Cordy Glenn, Carl Nicks, Richie Incognito, Kyle Long, and Rodger Saffold. Granted that all those guys, except maybe Cogs, were good athletes for their size. But looking at the 2020 season, Michael Onwenu and Damien Lewis are a couple of big boys who had themselves phenomenal rookie years.
When McVay says he is going to evaluate everything I believe him. I'm sure he's watching OL film right now and throwing shit around the room. No way he's not pissed beyond belief at Blythe at the least. That dude had a horrible tendency of being blown up at the worst moments.

And 2020 we ran some duo and trap here and there so it would not surprise me to see McVay elect to add a stout C and maybe have Kromes mix in more power scheme looks in their ground attack.

One thing's for sure... We are going to have a fearsome run game next season. Bank that IMO.