Schottey out as OC

[Mojo Ram]

And yet he's gone...

So is Jim Harbaugh.

 

[MrMotes]

I'm not trashing Martz. Only saying that it's a universal truth that if you don't have the horses, you're not pulling the carriage.

4000 yards from John Kitna, 1000 for Mike Furrey...

 

[MrMotes]

I think that had Fisher really been behind Schotty like he claimed he would still be our OC.

Bingo. It's not exactly a promotion...

 

[dieterbrock]

Boy this is the most exciting January as a Rams fan that I can remember in at least 10 years....

 

[HitStick]

View: http://youtu.be/r1nNdTyDZEs

 

[Rmfnlt]

And yet he's gone...

Well, it's hard to fire all the players.

 

[MrMotes]

Well, it's hard to fire all the players.

Fisher pretty much did that when he got here.

 

[jrry32]

Welp, I guess we'll see who's hired. I think Schotty is a better OC than he's given credit for being.

 

[MrMotes]

So is Jim Harbaugh.

Well there's the whole $48 million thing with Harbaugh. Of course we haven't seen what Georgia is paying BS yet...

 

[thirteen28]

(even Furry had a very good year at wideout)

That's an understatement. Furrey caught 98 balls in 2006. With John Kitna as his QB.

 

[Boffo97]

And yet he's gone...

Because HE took another job.

Any speculation that Fisher wanted him gone is pretty baseless.

 

[OnceARam]

I feel sick about this. I think it's going to set us back. We already have personnel issues, especially with young guys not knowing what the hell they're doing, and now they have to learn a new system?!?

We are a worse football team today than we were yesterday.

 

[-X-]

4000 yards from John Kitna, 1000 for Mike Furrey...

Like I said. I'm not trashing him, so I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean.
But if we're to judge Schotty on offensive ranks and wins/losses, then Martz didn't cut it in SF, DET or CHI.

 

[Alan]

MrMotes seeing what I see:
Bingo. It's not exactly a promotion...

This might have been a "find another job and keep your rep intact or we'll fire you" type situation.

 

[OnceARam]

Another thing to consider is.... Maybe Schottenheimer might have felt he was stuck in the OC position w/o any chance of career movement because of the drab style of the Rams offense we run (3 yards and a spray of rubber.....), by moving back (to a high profile SEC OC) he could actually get traction on getting his own program....NFL or College......

I agree. We, the fans and consumers of this godawful product, have been blaming our team's failure on Schotty. Maybe he realized that the better career move was to leave.

Not a tough sell.

 

[OnceARam]

Maybe my memory isn't very good, but it seemed like he dumped Walton.

Doesn't matter anyway... Schottenheimer is gone now.

I just get this slimy feeling about how Fisher does things.... I'm having a very difficult time believing much of anything he says... remember the "wink" when discussing QBs?

Hope he gets someone that can actually create an effective offense and lets them do their job (ala Vermiel/Martz), rather than forcing his dull offnese on them.

The reality is; Fisher is our coach. You're just pissing in the wind with your commentary.

 

[Boffo97]

This might have been a "find another job and keep your rep intact or we'll fire you" type situation.

It MIGHT have... we'll never prove one way or the other.

The theory still has the issue of just why Georgia would hire him then.

 

[jrry32]

Another thing to consider is.... Maybe Schottenheimer might have felt he was stuck in the OC position w/o any chance of career movement because of the drab style of the Rams offense we run (3 yards and a spray of rubber.....), by moving back (to a high profile SEC OC) he could actually get traction on getting his own program....NFL or College......

FWIW, this is exactly what I was thinking. Look at Cam Cameron in college...his system has been effective after he failed in the NFL.

Schotty probably believes that the UGA job will give him a quicker opportunity at earning a head coaching job...even if it is in college...because if he does well for a year or two as a college HC, you better bet the NFL will come calling. I think, logically, it would make a lot of sense for him to take this job if he's thinking about career advancement...unless he genuinely believed the Rams could have an elite offense next year.

 

[den-the-coach]

Welp, I guess we'll see who's hired. I think Schotty is a better OC than he's given credit for being.

I agree with you most of the time, however, we will agree to disagree on this and IMO Fisher encouraged Schottenheimer to take the Georgia job, it's a nice way to part ways as you well know counselor.

 

[OnceARam]

No offense taken. Just making an observation about how/why Bradford's development has been nothing short of negligent up to this point. I, personally, don't have enough faith in the offense as a whole to learn a new system and make it work in one season. Bradford could maybe learn it, but that's only half of the job. His receivers and O-line have to be in sync with his pre-snap reads and post-snap adjustments. And that works both ways. The receivers could pick it up, but the QB may not be on the same page half the time. For any new *innovative* scheme to work, it has to involve a rookie QB that the offense is tailored to, or a veteran QB who's been through this crap before and just knows how to improvise and play.

If Bradford was a good qb with X years of experience running the west coast offense, shouldn't he now be able to lead an offense as long as the new coordinate respects west coast themes the way other good QBs do? Has he reached that level of mastery of the professional game that one would expect him to reach after so many years? Manning has had multiple OC s. Doesn't seem to matter who works with Brady. Rodgers is calling 40% of his own plays.

I'm not trying to be argumentative or rude. I'm trying to understand what is realistic in terms of Bradford. In terms of our expectations.

On the finite time line that is the career of an nfl player there has to be a point where a distinction is made between unlucky and systemic.

I'm not saying we've hit that inflection point.

I am saying that if he were a good qb we as an organization should be able to put in a new west coast OC and have success.

Thoughts? (Forgive my stream of consciousness. I'm just concerned.)