River's most Abominable 2023 Mock yet ...

[Riverumbbq]

After all trades and trade downs our draft will appear as so ...

#1) 0
#2) 3
#3) 2
#4) 1
#5) 3
#6) 4
#7) 2


2023 Draft :

1 - Ramsey trade & trade down for two 2’nds & 6’th
2a - C John Michael-Schmitz, Mi.
2b - DL Adetomiwa Adebawawore, N.W (Ramsey trade down)
2c - QB Tanner McKee, Stan. (Ramsey trade down B)
3a - TE Luke Musgrave, Or. St.
3b - CB/S Darius Rush, S.C. (Ramsey trade)
4 - OT Zion Nelson, Mi. (Higbee trade)
5a - RB Roshon Johnson, Tx.
5b - Edge Ochaun Mathis, Ne. (Comp)
5c - WR Trey Palmer, Ne. (Comp)
6a - OG/C Ricky Stromberg, Ark. (Ramsey trade down)
6b - CB Cameron Brown, Oh.St.
6c - S DeMarcco Hellams, Al.
6d - K Jake Moody, Mi. (Comp)
7a - ILB Aubrey Miller Jr., J.S.U.
7b - TE - Noah Gindorff, N.D.St. (Comp)


Re-sign :

DT Greg Gaines
CB Grant Haley
WR/R Brandon Powell
P Riley Dixon
LS Matt Orzech


Rams Players lost to Free Agency :

K - Matt Gay
DT - A’Shawn Robinson
CB Troy Hill
OT/OG - David Edwards
S - Nick Scott
S - Taylor Rapp
CB - David Long
RB - Malcolm Brown
C - Coleman Shelton

Rams CAP Casualty :

C - Brian Allen


Returning RFA’s & ERFA’s :

Marquise Copeland - ERFA
Christian Rozeboom - ERFA
Travin Howard - ERFA
Michael Hoecht - ERFA
Bryce Perkins - ERFA
Shaun Jolly - ERFA
John Wolford (camp arm) - RFA


Major Trades (3) :

Rams 2024 1’st & 2’nd round draft picks for Edge Brian Burns

Ramsey + Van Jefferson + the Rams 2024 4’th round draft pick for Green Bay’s 2023 1’st and 3’rd round picks, … Rams then trade down their new 1’st to Detroit for two 2’nds and a 6’th round pick. Prior to this trade, G.B. trades Aaron Rogers to the NYJ for a boatload of draft picks.

Higbee to Carolina for a 4’th.


5 Free Agent’s :

OG Dalton Risnor (4 years)
RB D’Ernest Johnson (2 years)
ILB Devin Bush (2 years)
WR Parris Campbell (3 years)
QB Brian Hoyer (1 year)


UDFA's :

WR - Puka Nacua, BYU.
OT Dalton Wagner, Ark.
TE - Zack Kuntz, O.D.
S/CB - Cory Trice, Pur.
CB - Darrell Luter Jr., S.A.
DL - Jacob Slade, Mi.St.
P - Michael Turk, Ok.
DT - Elijah Chatman, SMU
OG - Richard Gouraige, Fl.



2023 Rams Roster of 53 :

Offense (25)

QB (3) :

Matthew Stafford
Brian Hoyer**
Tanner McKee*


Offensive Line (9) :

LT) Jackson, Nsehke, Zion Nelson*, (Noteboom upon return)
LG) Dalton Risner**, Anchrum
C) John Michael-Schmitz*, Stromberg*
RG) Bruss, Anchrum
RT) Havenstein, Zion Nelson*


RB's (4) :

Cam Akers
Kyren Williams
Rashon Johnson*
D’Ernest Johnson**

WR's (6) :

Cooper Kupp
Parris Campbell**
Ben Skowronek
Tutu Atwell
Brandon Powell
Trey Palmer*

TE's (3) :

Brycen Hopkins
Luke Musgrave*
Noah Gindorff* or Zack Kuntz*


Defense (25) :

Defensive Line (5) :

Aaron Donald
Greg Gaines
Bobby Brown
Adetomiwa Adebawawore*
Marquise Copeland

OLB (5) :

Brian Burns**
Mike Hoecht
Daniel Hardy
Ochaun Mathis*
Keir Thomas

ILB (4) :

Ernest Jones
Jake Hummel
Travin Howard
Devin Bush**


CB (6) :

Robert Rochelle
Cobie Durant
Darius Rush*
Grant Haley
Derion Kendrick
Cameron Brown*


Safety (5) :

Jordan Fuller
Quintin Lake
Russ Yeast
DeMarco Hellams*
Cory Trice*


Special Teams (3)

K - Jake Moody*
P - Riley Dixon
LS - Mathew Orzech

* signifies rookie
** signifies veteran trade or free agent

 

[Flatlyner]

Appreciate the amount of work put into this, unfortunately, the Rams screwed your mock yesterday (and kind of themselves).

 

[Malibu]

I really like this minus no upgrade at CB. I also say Carolina will not trade Burns because with the first pick in the draft they must be flying high. And believe their defense must stay in tacted. Would it make sense on some levels absolutely only because Carolina may think we will not be good enough to make the playoffs so the 2024 #1 could end up like our Detroit pick this off-season. Why trade Burns unless he says I am not coming back and he is not saying that yet too early and even though he is playing out his last year he will get tagged in 2024 if they dont come to a deal.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I really like this minus no upgrade at CB. I also say Carolina will not trade Burns because with the first pick in the draft they must be flying high. And believe their defense must stay in tacted. Would it make sense on some levels absolutely only because Carolina may think we will not be good enough to make the playoffs so the 2024 #1 could end up like our Detroit pick this off-season. Why trade Burns unless he says I am not coming back and he is not saying that yet too early and even though he is playing out his last year he will get tagged in 2024 if they dont come to a deal.

I drafted 2 CB's for this mock.
As @Flatlyner mentioned in the post before yours, this mock was rendered obsolete once Ramsey was traded for so little return compensation.

 

[Riverumbbq]

River's completely revised Mock following the Ramsey trade :

Sorry, I'm still moving Higbee & Van Jeff.


2023 Draft :

1 - N/A
2 - QB Tanner McKee, Stan.
3a - TE Sam LaPorta, Ia.
3b - CB/S Darius Rush, S.C. (Ramsey trade)
4 - OT Zion Nelson, Mi. (Higbee trade)
5a - RB Roshon Johnson, Tx.
5b - Edge Ochaun Mathis, Ne. (Comp)
5c - WR Trey Palmer, Ne. (Comp)
6a - OG/C Ricky Stromberg, Ark. (Van Jefferson trade)
6b - CB Cameron Brown, Oh.St.
6c - S DeMarcco Hellams, Al.
6d - K Jake Moody, Mi. (Comp)
7a - TE Zach Kuntz, O.D.
7b - P Michael Turk, Ok. (Comp)


Re-sign :

DT Greg Gaines
CB Grant Haley
WR/R Brandon Powell
P Riley Dixon
LS Matt Orzech


Major Trades :

Rams 2024 1’st & 2’nd round draft picks for Edge Brian Burns or another Elite Edge rusher.

Ramsey to Miami for a 3’rd.
Higbee to Carolina for a 4’th.
Van Jefferson for a 2023 6’th and a 2024 5’th.


5 Free Agent’s :

OG Dalton Risnor or Evan Brown (4 years)
RB D’Ernest Johnson (2 years)
ILB Devin Bush (2 years)
WR Parris Campbell (3 years)
QB Brian Hoyer (1 year)


UDFA's :

WR - Puka Nacua, BYU.
TE - Noah Gindorff, N.D.St.
S/CB - Cory Trice, Pur.
CB - Darrell Luter Jr., S.A.
DL - Jacob Slade, Mi.St.
ILB - Aubrey Miller Jr., J.S.U.
DT - Elijah Chatman, SMU
OG - Richard Gouraige, Fl.

 

[rafa]

Michael Turk FTW!

https://www.youtube.com/@Hangtime37

 

[OnceARam]

From NFL draft buzz: "At the combine, McKee'snumbers were all pretty pedestrian, as expected. What wasn't expected was his performance in the passing drills where his unusual delivery produced some inaccurate passes at all levels, and his arm strength was disappointing."

Doesn't have the physical tools to overcome his bad habits. Not worth a 2nd.

 

[Riverumbbq]

From NFL draft buzz: "At the combine, McKee'snumbers were all pretty pedestrian, as expected. What wasn't expected was his performance in the passing drills where his unusual delivery produced some inaccurate passes at all levels, and his arm strength was disappointing."

Doesn't have the physical tools to overcome his bad habits. Not worth a 2nd.

With our 2'nd he's likely a trade down prospect.

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS​

• Sticks throws into tight windows over the middle, throwing to spot on a slant or between zone defenders before the receiver is open.
• Traditional pro-looking QB - aas elite size for the position - stands 6-6 and weighs 230lbs and has the elite arm strength to match
• Stats may misrepresent his quality of play due to sub-par talent around him
• Highly skilled in executing the west coast system - will likely transition into a pro offense with ease
• Has great footwork and usually deals well with pressure
• Flashes good accuracy to all levels of the field and has the arm strength to make every requisite NFL throw.
• Big athlete with good height and stands tall in the pocket to survey. the field. Uses good technique, squaring his shoulders to the target and stepping into his throws.
• Sprays the ball anywhere on the field, especially when given a pocket from which to deliver. Will step up into the pocket while looking downfield, reset his feet and deliver.
• Has surprising speed as a runner for such a big man - has some escapability
• Excellent height to see over the defense along with a super release that allows to him to avoid a number of sacks
• Good accuracy overall, including excellent accuracy on short timing routes to backs and receivers, placing the ball slightly in front to lead receivers to potential yardage after the catch.
• Possesses an NFL arm. Gets the ball from one hash to the opposite sideline in a hurry

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES​

• Needs to improve his touch at all levels and know when to gun it and when to take something off his throws. His accuracy is solid, but far from great when under pressure with streaky ball placement downfield as he tries to thread the needle too much.
• Had only an average season in 2021 when Stanford went just 3-9 in both 2021 and 2022, so it's difficult to tell how much of this is down to his horrible supporting cast
• Doesn't decipher information as quickly as you would like, but does see the entire field and understands coverage.

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY​

Tanner McKee is an intriguing pro prospect due to his obvious tangibles - he looks the part and possesses prototypical drop-back passer qualities, is a quick decision-maker, has a quick release, a strong arm, and has excellent accuracy, especially on intermediate and long throws. He however really struggled last year on an awful Cardinals team that went 3-9. As a result, McKee has proved to be a difficult player to evaluate as he has had to run for his life behind one of the worst offensive lines in the power five and so most of the time his aim has been to simply stay upright. Although when he has time to throw the ball he's shown a great deal of accuracy and ability to lead his receivers downfield.

Mckee currently projects as a second or third-round pick in the 2023 NFL Draft - and has real starting potential given the right pro offense.

 

[Flatlyner]

Damn, not a fan of McKee especially at #36. I'd MUCH rather have Hooker or Bennett/Tune later. I just don't see it with McKee. Also, I think Campbell was signed to Carolina today

 

[Riverumbbq]

Damn, not a fan of McKee especially at #36. I'd MUCH rather have Hooker or Bennett/Tune later. I just don't see it with McKee.

As mentioned in the previous post, McKee is likely still available after a reasonable trade down. jmo.

 

[Corbin]

Not bad, just got to say I don’t think Burns is worth the trade we tried or that one especially since we’d have to pay him and we barely have fun for our huge contracts that we jettisoned already. Thank God that didn’t work out this last year.

I like the Moody and Turk pick ups to lol

Finally people are seeing things my way!

 

[Riverumbbq]

Not bad, just got to say I don’t think Burns is worth the trade we tried or that one especially since we’d have to pay him and we barely have fun for our huge contracts that we jettisoned already. Thank God that didn’t work out this last year.

I like the Moody and Turk pick ups to lol

Finally people are seeing things my way!

I'd only trade for Burns with a newly renegotiated longterm back-loaded contract.

 

[Riverumbbq]

OK, a couple more alterations to the above mock. This may be it for awhile as it seems within 24 hours of my mocks, the Rams make them obsolete with other trades and signings.

No longer looking at Brian Burns in a 2023 trade, he'll be a free agent next year and the Rams will then have plenty of available 2024 CAP dollars.

The only way that I do not trade back from our 2'nd round draft pick is if Edge Nolan Smith happens to still be on the board, although not likely.

Not many changes from the earlier mock, still 3 trades, ... 1) trade down from overall #36 with Detroit for #55 (2'nd rd.) and #81 (3'rd rd.)
2) Trade Higbee for a 4'th, 3) Trade Van Jefferson for a 6'th. I'm just not seeing a reason for keeping Hig's & Van Jeff as they'll be gone in 2024 free agency, and their CAP savings in 2023 can still help us pick up a couple of tier 2 free agents of our own.


2023 Draft :

1 - N/A
2(55) - DL Adetomiwa Adebawawore, N.W. (2'nd rd. trade down)
3a(69) - QB Tanner McKee, Stan.
3b(77) - TE Sam LaPorta, Ia. (Ramsey trade)
3c(81) - CB/S Darius Rush, S.C. (From 2'nd rd. trade down)
4 - OT Zion Nelson, Mi. (Higbee trade)
5a - RB Roshon Johnson, Tx.
5b - Edge Ochaun Mathis, Ne. (Comp)
5c - WR Trey Palmer, Ne. (Comp)
6a - OG/C Ricky Stromberg, Ark. (Van Jefferson trade)
6b - CB Cameron Brown, Oh.St.
6c - S DeMarcco Hellams, Al.
6d - K Jake Moody, Mi. (Comp)
7a - TE Zach Kuntz, O.D.
7b - P Michael Turk, Ok. (Comp)


Re-sign :

DT Greg Gaines
CB Grant Haley
WR/R Brandon Powell
OT Ty Nsekhe
OG/OT Chandler Brewer


3 Outside Free Agent’s :

OG Dalton Risner or Evan Brown (4 years)
RB D’Ernest Johnson (2 years)
QB Brian Hoyer (1 year)


UDFA's :

WR - Puka Nacua, BYU.
TE - Noah Gindorff, N.D.St.
S/CB - Cory Trice, Pur.
CB - Darrell Luter Jr., S.A.
DL - Jacob Slade, Mi.St.
ILB - Aubrey Miller Jr., J.S.U.
DT - Elijah Chatman, SMU
OG - Richard Gouraige, Fl.
LS - Alex Ward, U.C.F.

 

[Memphis Ram]

The Lions trade is interesting, but I don't think Higbee would net a 4th round selection in such a deep TE draft. And especially with teams knowing the Rams cap situation.

Other thoughts:
I'm sure you already know about Greg Gaines by now.
Methinks Adebawawore will be a 1st rounder.
I don't think Zion Nelson is in this draft class.
Not a fan of the Tanner McKee selection.
Methinks Cory Trice and Darrell Luter are going to have to do something pretty stupid pre-draft or have a bad medical report to go undrafted.

 

[Riverumbbq]

The Lions trade is interesting, but I don't think Higbee would net a 4th round selection in such a deep TE draft. And especially with teams knowing the Rams cap situation.

Other thoughts:
I'm sure you already know about Greg Gaines by now.
Methinks Adebawawore will be a 1st rounder.
I don't think Zion Nelson is in this draft class.
Not a fan of the Tanner McKee selection.
Methinks Cory Trice and Darrell Luter are going to have to do something pretty stupid pre-draft or have a bad medical report to go undrafted.

Sorry, I haven't yet spotted the odd mock that has Adetomiwa Adebawawore going in the 1'st round. I have seen him mid 2'nd to mid 3'rd though.
OT Zion Nelson was changed to OT Blake Freeland on post #11 of the following thread yesterday after another poster mentioned that Zion would remain in college.

What do you do next?

We’ve released some players. We’ve traded some players. There may be more to come, like A Rob. We don’t have much cap space. 2024 we do. But now we don’t, unless we spend early. We have 11 draft picks. How much do you press the pedal this 2023 offseason? What is your next move?

ramsondemand.com

 

[Memphis Ram]

Sorry, I haven't yet spotted the odd mock that has Adetomiwa Adebawawore going in the 1'st round. I have seen him mid 2'nd to mid 3'rd though.
OT Zion Nelson was changed to OT Blake Freeland on post #11 of the following thread yesterday after another poster mentioned that Zion would remain in college.

What do you do next?

We’ve released some players. We’ve traded some players. There may be more to come, like A Rob. We don’t have much cap space. 2024 we do. But now we don’t, unless we spend early. We have 11 draft picks. How much do you press the pedal this 2023 offseason? What is your next move?

ramsondemand.com

It's mid-March. Just wait. They'll catch up.
The kid clowned at the Senior Bowl and had tremendous combine numbers. He'll go in the 1st round.

But, if somehow, he doesn't, the Rams had better not trade down if they want him.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Slight alteration to the earlier mock as Gaines in now gone and Zion Nelson has decided to remain in college. All else remains the same.


2023 Draft :

1 - N/A

2 - DL Adetomiwa Adebawawore, N.W. (2’nd rd. Trade down from #36)
3a - QB Tanner McKee, Stan.
3b - TE Sam LaPorta, Ia. (Ramsey trade)
3c - CB/S Darius Rush, S.C. (From 2’nd rd. Trade down)
4 - OT Blake Freeland, BYU (Higbee trade)
5a - RB Roshon Johnson, Tx. Or RB Chris Rodriguez, U.K.
5b - Edge Ochaun Mathis, Ne. (Comp)
5c - WR Trey Palmer, Ne. (Comp)
6a - OG/C Ricky Stromberg, Ark. (Van Jefferson trade)
6b - CB Cameron Brown, Oh.St.
6c - S DeMarcco Hellams, Al.
6d - K Jake Moody, Mi. (Comp)
7a - TE Zach Kuntz, O.D.
7b - P Michael Turk, Ok. (Comp)


Re-sign :

CB Grant Haley
WR/R Brandon Powell
OT Ty Nsekhe
OG/OT Chandler Brewer


Major Trades :

Trade down #36 with Detroit for #55 (2’nd rd.) and #81 (3’rd rd.)
Ramsey to Miami for a 3’rd. (Done !)
Higbee to Carolina for a 4’th.
Van Jefferson for a 2023 6’th and a 2024 5’th.


3 Outside Free Agent’s :

OG Dalton Risner or C/OG Evan Brown (4 years)
RB D’Ernest Johnson (2 years)
QB Brian Hoyer (1 year)


UDFA's :

WR - Puka Nacua, BYU.
WR - Jake Bobo, UCLA
TE - Noah Gindorff, N.D.St.
S/CB - Cory Trice, Pur.
CB - Darrell Luter Jr., S.A.
DL - Jacob Slade, Mi.St.
ILB - Aubrey Miller Jr., J.S.U.
DT - Elijah Chatman, SMU
OG - Richard Gouraige, Fl.
LS - Alex Ward, UCF

 

[Riverumbbq]

Should have added this to the above (post #17) mock :

2023 Rams Roster of 53 :

Offense (25)

QB (3) :

Matthew Stafford
Brian Hoyer**
Tanner McKee*

Offensive Line (9) :

LT) Jackson, Blake Freeland*, (Noteboom upon return)
LG) Dalton Risner**, Anchrum, Stromberg*
C) Allen, Shelton, Stromberg*
RG) Bruss, Anchrum, Stromberg*
RT) Havenstein, Blake Freeland*


RB's (4) :

Cam Akers
Kyren Williams
Rashon Johnson* or Chris Rodriguez
D’Ernest Johnson**

WR's (6) :

Cooper Kupp
Allen Robinson
Ben Skowronek
Tutu Atwell
Brandon Powell
Trey Palmer*

TE's (3) :

Brycen Hopkins
Sam LaPorta*
Hunter Long**


Defense (25) :

Defensive Line (5) :

Aaron Donald
Bobby Brown
Adetomiwa Adebawawore*
Larrell Murchison
Jonah Williams

OLB (5) :

Mike Hoecht
Daniel Hardy
Ochaun Mathis*
Keir Thomas
DJ Johnson*

ILB (4) :

Ernest Jones
Jake Hummel
Christian Rozeboom
Myles Jack**


CB (6) :

Robert Rochelle
Cobie Durant
Darius Rush*
Grant Haley
Derion Kendrick
Cameron Brown*


Safety (5) :

Jordan Fuller
Quintin Lake
Russ Yeast
DeMarco Hellams*
Cory Trice*


Special Teams (3)

K - Jake Moody*
P - Michael Turk*
LS - Alex Ward*


* signifies rookie
** signifies veteran trade or free agent


Re-sign :

CB Grant Haley
WR/R Brandon Powell
OT Ty Nsekhe
OG/OT Chandler Brewer
TE/FB Roger Carter


Major Trades :

Trade down #36 with Detroit for #55 (2’nd rd.) and #81 (3’rd rd.)
Ramsey to Miami for a 3’rd. (Done !)
Higbee & a 2024 5'th to Carolina for a 2023 4’th.
Van Jefferson for a 2023 6’th and a 2024 5’th.


3 Outside Free Agent’s :

OG Dalton Risner (4 years)
RB D’Ernest Johnson (2 years)
QB Brian Hoyer (1 year)


UDFA's :

WR - Puka Nacua, BYU.
WR - Jake Bobo, UCLA
TE - Noah Gindorff, N.D.St.
S/CB - Cory Trice, Pur.
CB - Darrell Luter Jr., S.A.
DL - Jacob Slade, Mi.St.
ILB - Aubrey Miller Jr., J.S.U.
DT - Elijah Chatman, SMU
OG - Richard Gouraige, Fl.
Edge - DJ Johnson, Or.
LS - Alex Ward, UCF

 

[Memphis Ram]

Starting to catch up


View: https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/1638156378274496515

 

[Riverumbbq]

Starting to catch up


View: https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/1638156378274496515

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