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bwdenverram

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If it came down to Quick or McRoberts, i'd go with McRoberts. I had it very, very close between Marquez & McRoberts, but ultimately went with Marquez, ... i'm good with either or ...

My best answer to this is to trade for Josh Gordon. jmo.

I'd have no problem with your solution to trade for Gordon. Just don't think it would ever happen with Fisher.
 

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My changes are within the box

Tough cut down, especially with our reserve OT's. While Williams, Battle & Donnal hardly inspire, I still need 2 of these guys, at least until something, hopefully, magically drops in on us. I went with Donnal/Williams because Donnal looked decent earlier, and Williams looked good last year, so maybe he finds what he has lost in the off-season. Battle just hasn't done anything. The WR's ended up being easier than I thought as so many of the new & old guys struggled with drops or making plays on a consistent basis. Had to finally say goodby to Quick. There is plenty of young talent, but right now they are better dealt to the practice squad. I have Hemmingway as our 4'th TE/6'th WR.
On the defensive line, what a richness of wealth we have acquired. I'm sure to get plenty of heat
for keeping 10 on the DL, but I figured we'd lose anyone cut, as I don't believe we can sneak any of them onto our practice squad. Had to lose Sims as I believe he has lost a step and he is now at that post 30 stage of his career. I was able to accomplish this because there was little inspiration in keeping more LB'ers that were just guys, not really special. I also thought in case of emergency, perhaps there is a slight chance Seau could act as a hybrid DE/LB if Ayers or another outside guy left us high and dry. I'm not too worried, I believe we have gone with 5 LB'ers in the past, even if it isn't ideal, especially for special teams. Sensabaugh, Joyner and to a lesser extent, even Roberson have been a disappointment, and while i'd love to make room for Troy Hill, I just can't make it happen. The 4 Safeties are easy picks among the choices available. jmo.


Defense
(24)

DL (10)

LDE : Hayes, Longacre
RDE : Quinn, Seau
DT/NT : Brockers, Thomas
DT : Donald, Easley
rotation/reserve : Westbrooks, Fox

IR :

Trinca-Pasat


LB'ers (5):

MLB : Ogletree, Hager
WLB : Barron, Littleton
SLB : Ayers

Chubb over Littleton to start season w Hager hurt. I wanted Lynch for ST but Chubb is as good there

CB's (5) :

Tru Johnson
EJ Gaines
Roberson
Joyner
Sensabaugh

Hill over Sensabaugh

Safeties (4) :

SS : Alexander, TJ McDonald
FS : Davis, Bryant

IR :

Randolph


Offense (26) :

While Hemingway may be designated as our 4'th TE, he could also act as our 6'th WR, ... so could Higbee for that matter.

WR's (5) :

1) Kenny Britt
2) Tavon Austin
3) Pharoh Cooper
4) Nelson Spruce
5) Bradley Marquez

Is Spruce ready to contribute week 1? I get we could lose him though


TE's (4) :

1) Kendricks
2) Harkey
3) Higbee
4) Hemmingway

RB's (4) :

Gurley
Cunningham
M.Brown
Green

Quick over Green, Green to PS over Magee. Does anyone really believe we will use Green for special plays out of the backfield unless Austin is injured? At least there are running plays and a few slants Quick can do in a game.

OL (10) :

RT) Havenstein, Donnal
RG) J.Brown, Saffold
C) Barnes, Kush
LG) Wichmann, Reynolds
LT) GRob, Williams

Rhaney over Kush
Battle over Williams


QB's (3):

Keenum
Goff
Mannion


Special Teams (3) :

P - Hekker
K - Zuerlein
LS - McQuaid



Practice Squad (10) :

WR - Mike Thomas
WR - Paul McRoberts
WR - Duke Williams
RB - Terrence Magee
OL - Demetrius Rhaney
OL - Isaiah Battle
LB - Josh Forrest
LB - Cameron Lynch
LB - Brandon Chubb
CB - Troy Hill


OK guys, ... have at it.
 

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Tough cut down, especially with our reserve OT's. While Williams, Battle & Donnal hardly inspire, I still need 2 of these guys, at least until something, hopefully, magically drops in on us. I went with Donnal/Williams because Donnal looked decent earlier, and Williams looked good last year, so maybe he finds what he has lost in the off-season. Battle just hasn't done anything. The WR's ended up being easier than I thought as so many of the new & old guys struggled with drops or making plays on a consistent basis. Had to finally say goodby to Quick. There is plenty of young talent, but right now they are better dealt to the practice squad. I have Hemmingway as our 4'th TE/6'th WR.
On the defensive line, what a richness of wealth we have acquired. I'm sure to get plenty of heat
for keeping 10 on the DL, but I figured we'd lose anyone cut, as I don't believe we can sneak any of them onto our practice squad. Had to lose Sims as I believe he has lost a step and he is now at that post 30 stage of his career. I was able to accomplish this because there was little inspiration in keeping more LB'ers that were just guys, not really special. I also thought in case of emergency, perhaps there is a slight chance Seau could act as a hybrid DE/LB if Ayers or another outside guy left us high and dry. I'm not too worried, I believe we have gone with 5 LB'ers in the past, even if it isn't ideal, especially for special teams. Sensabaugh, Joyner and to a lesser extent, even Roberson have been a disappointment, and while i'd love to make room for Troy Hill, I just can't make it happen. The 4 Safeties are easy picks among the choices available. jmo.


Defense
(24)

DL (10)

LDE : Hayes, Longacre
RDE : Quinn, Seau
DT/NT : Brockers, Thomas
DT : Donald, Easley
rotation/reserve : Westbrooks, Fox

IR :

Trinca-Pasat


LB'ers (5):

MLB : Ogletree, Hager
WLB : Barron, Littleton
SLB : Ayers


CB's (5) :

Tru Johnson
EJ Gaines
Roberson
Joyner
Sensabaugh


Safeties (4) :

SS : Alexander, TJ McDonald
FS : Davis, Bryant

IR :

Randolph


Offense (26) :

While Hemingway may be designated as our 4'th TE, he could also act as our 6'th WR, ... so could Higbee for that matter.

WR's (5) :

1) Kenny Britt
2) Tavon Austin
3) Pharoh Cooper
4) Nelson Spruce
5) Bradley Marquez


TE's (4) :

1) Kendricks
2) Harkey
3) Higbee
4) Hemmingway

RB's (4) :

Gurley
Cunningham
M.Brown
Green

OL (10) :

RT) Havenstein, Donnal
RG) J.Brown, Saffold
C) Barnes, Kush
LG) Wichmann, Reynolds
LT) GRob, Williams


QB's (3):

Keenum
Goff
Mannion


Special Teams (3) :

P - Hekker
K - Zuerlein
LS - McQuaid



Practice Squad (10) :

WR - Mike Thomas
WR - Paul McRoberts
WR - Duke Williams
RB - Terrence Magee
OL - Demetrius Rhaney
OL - Isaiah Battle
LB - Josh Forrest
LB - Cameron Lynch
LB - Brandon Chubb
CB - Troy Hill


OK guys, ... have at it.

Pace Murphy over Williams
 

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Defense (25)

DL (9)

LDE : Hayes, Sims
RDE : Quinn, Longacre
DT/NT : Brockers, Thomas
DT : Donald, Easley
rotation/reserve : Westbrooks

LB'ers (6):

MLB : Ogletree, Hager
WLB : Barron, Chubb
SLB : Ayers, Lynch


CB's (6) :

Tru Johnson
EJ Gaines
Roberson
Joyner
Sensabaugh
Hill

Safeties (4) :

SS : Alexander, TJ McDonald
FS : Davis, Bryant


Offense (25) :

WR's (5) :

Kenny Britt
Tavon Austin
Pharoh Cooper
Brian Quick
Bradley Marquez


TE's (4) :

Kendricks
Harkey
Higbee
Hemmingway

RB's (4) :

Gurley
Cunningham
M.Brown
Reynolds

OL (9) :

RT) Havenstein, Donnal
RG) J.Brown, Saffold
C) Barnes, Kush
LG) Wichmann,
LT) GRob, Battle


QB's (3):

Keenum
Mannion
Goff


Special Teams (3) :

P - Hekker
K - Zuerlein
LS - McQuaid



I know, I know - Spruce, Seau, etc - but I think all of our cuts will make it safely to the PS.
 

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RDE : Quinn, Seau

Not a Sims fan but, Seau lost contain again. He goes to PS.


Less about size to me but the Rams have two WRs that would be considered vets....I'm not countin Marquez. Too thin in that regard. That is why I think Quick sticks. N

I think Quick sticks too.

Roberson is out, Hill is in.

Rhaney won the #2 Center spot, IMO but Kush is a better Guard. Tough call.

Could be both but hard to keep Hill hidden on the PS.

Kush to PS? Agree tough call. Easy call up if needed.


Hemmingway was becoming a big disappointment. Glad he showed up.

What about this Morgan Fox dude?
 

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Hate this but.... looks like Quick might have the Rams on the hook?

Brian Quick signed a 1 year, $1,750,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including $1,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,750,000. In 2016, Quick will earn a base salary of $1,250,000 and a roster bonus of $453,125. Quick has a cap hit of $1,703,125 while his dead money value is $1,500,000.
 

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Tough cut down, especially with our reserve OT's. While Williams, Battle & Donnal hardly inspire, I still need 2 of these guys, at least until something, hopefully, magically drops in on us. I went with Donnal/Williams because Donnal looked decent earlier, and Williams looked good last year, so maybe he finds what he has lost in the off-season. Battle just hasn't done anything. The WR's ended up being easier than I thought as so many of the new & old guys struggled with drops or making plays on a consistent basis. Had to finally say goodby to Quick. There is plenty of young talent, but right now they are better dealt to the practice squad. I have Hemmingway as our 4'th TE/6'th WR.
On the defensive line, what a richness of wealth we have acquired. I'm sure to get plenty of heat
for keeping 10 on the DL, but I figured we'd lose anyone cut, as I don't believe we can sneak any of them onto our practice squad. Had to lose Sims as I believe he has lost a step and he is now at that post 30 stage of his career. I was able to accomplish this because there was little inspiration in keeping more LB'ers that were just guys, not really special. I also thought in case of emergency, perhaps there is a slight chance Seau could act as a hybrid DE/LB if Ayers or another outside guy left us high and dry. I'm not too worried, I believe we have gone with 5 LB'ers in the past, even if it isn't ideal, especially for special teams. Sensabaugh, Joyner and to a lesser extent, even Roberson have been a disappointment, and while i'd love to make room for Troy Hill, I just can't make it happen. The 4 Safeties are easy picks among the choices available. jmo.


Defense
(24)

DL (10)

LDE : Hayes, Longacre
RDE : Quinn, Seau
DT/NT : Brockers, Thomas
DT : Donald, Easley
rotation/reserve : Westbrooks, Fox

IR :

Trinca-Pasat


LB'ers (5):

MLB : Ogletree, Hager
WLB : Barron, Littleton
SLB : Ayers


CB's (5) :

Tru Johnson
EJ Gaines
Roberson
Joyner
Sensabaugh


Safeties (4) :

SS : Alexander, TJ McDonald
FS : Davis, Bryant

IR :

Randolph


Offense (26) :

While Hemingway may be designated as our 4'th TE, he could also act as our 6'th WR, ... so could Higbee for that matter.

WR's (5) :

1) Kenny Britt
2) Tavon Austin
3) Pharoh Cooper
4) Nelson Spruce
5) Bradley Marquez


TE's (4) :

1) Kendricks
2) Harkey
3) Higbee
4) Hemmingway

RB's (4) :

Gurley
Cunningham
M.Brown
Green

OL (10) :

RT) Havenstein, Donnal
RG) J.Brown, Saffold
C) Barnes, Kush
LG) Wichmann, Reynolds
LT) GRob, Williams


QB's (3):

Keenum
Goff
Mannion


Special Teams (3) :

P - Hekker
K - Zuerlein
LS - McQuaid



Practice Squad (10) :

WR - Mike Thomas
WR - Paul McRoberts
WR - Duke Williams
RB - Terrence Magee
OL - Demetrius Rhaney
OL - Isaiah Battle
LB - Josh Forrest
LB - Cameron Lynch
LB - Brandon Chubb
CB - Troy Hill


OK guys, ... have at it.
I would replace Sensabahgh with T Hill. Otherwise, no complaints.
 

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Hate this but.... looks like Quick might have the Rams on the hook?

Brian Quick signed a 1 year, $1,750,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including $1,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,750,000. In 2016, Quick will earn a base salary of $1,250,000 and a roster bonus of $453,125. Quick has a cap hit of $1,703,125 while his dead money value is $1,500,000.

Wow I didn't think it was mostly guaranteed.
 

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Hate this but.... looks like Quick might have the Rams on the hook?

Brian Quick signed a 1 year, $1,750,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including $1,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,750,000. In 2016, Quick will earn a base salary of $1,250,000 and a roster bonus of $453,125. Quick has a cap hit of $1,703,125 while his dead money value is $1,500,000.

Keep in mind that the Coples contract had similar guarantees, but he still had to make the team in order for them to take effect. We won't know the details unless Quick is actually released. Same would also be true with Sims new contract. I'm hopeful these contracts are written like Coples, we'll just have to wait and see. jmo.
 

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Keep in mind that the Coples contract had similar guarantees, but he still had to make the team in order for them to take effect. We won't know the details unless Quick is actually released. Same would also be true with Sims new contract. I'm hopeful these contracts are written like Coples, we'll just have to wait and see. jmo.
I would hope that we could release both Sims & Quick & go with younger upside players instead. I looking for improvement not to stay the same.
 

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Defense (23)

DL (9)

LDE : Hayes, Westbrooks
RDE : Quinn, Longacre
DT/NT : Brockers, Thomas
DT : Donald, Easley
rotation/reserve : Fox

LB'ers (5):

MLB : Ogletree
WLB : Barron, Littleton
SLB : Ayers, Lynch


CB's (5) :

Tru Johnson
EJ Gaines
Joyner
Sensabaugh
Hill

Safeties (4) :

SS : Alexander, TJ McDonald
FS : Davis, Bryant


Offense (27) :

WR's (6) :

Kenny Britt
Tavon Austin
Pharoh Cooper
Mike Thomas
Bradley Marquez

Paul McRoberts

TE's (4) :

Kendricks
Harkey
Higbee
Hemmingway

RB's (4) :

Gurley
Cunningham
M.Brown
Green

OL (10) :

RT) Havenstein, Donnal
RG) J.Brown, Reynolds
C) Barnes, Rhaney
LG) Saffold, Wichmann
LT) GRob, Williams


QB's (3):

Keenum
Mannion
Goff


Special Teams (3) :

P - Hekker
K - Zuerlein
LS - McQuaid
 

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This is more of a prediction for what I think the Rams will do than what I would do myself. I don't think we need 10 OL with as much versatility as the Rams have (thank to Saffold).

Why do we need another WR in week 1, again? The way I see it, we can dress 4.
 

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Tough cut down, especially with our reserve OT's. While Williams, Battle & Donnal hardly inspire, I still need 2 of these guys, at least until something, hopefully, magically drops in on us. I went with Donnal/Williams because Donnal looked decent earlier, and Williams looked good last year, so maybe he finds what he has lost in the off-season. Battle just hasn't done anything. The WR's ended up being easier than I thought as so many of the new & old guys struggled with drops or making plays on a consistent basis. Had to finally say goodby to Quick. There is plenty of young talent, but right now they are better dealt to the practice squad. I have Hemmingway as our 4'th TE/6'th WR.
On the defensive line, what a richness of wealth we have acquired. I'm sure to get plenty of heat
for keeping 10 on the DL, but I figured we'd lose anyone cut, as I don't believe we can sneak any of them onto our practice squad. Had to lose Sims as I believe he has lost a step and he is now at that post 30 stage of his career. I was able to accomplish this because there was little inspiration in keeping more LB'ers that were just guys, not really special. I also thought in case of emergency, perhaps there is a slight chance Seau could act as a hybrid DE/LB if Ayers or another outside guy left us high and dry. I'm not too worried, I believe we have gone with 5 LB'ers in the past, even if it isn't ideal, especially for special teams. Sensabaugh, Joyner and to a lesser extent, even Roberson have been a disappointment, and while i'd love to make room for Troy Hill, I just can't make it happen. The 4 Safeties are easy picks among the choices available. jmo.


Defense
(24)

DL (10)

LDE : Hayes, Longacre
RDE : Quinn, Seau
DT/NT : Brockers, Thomas
DT : Donald, Easley
rotation/reserve : Westbrooks, Fox

IR :

Trinca-Pasat


LB'ers (5):

MLB : Ogletree, Hager
WLB : Barron, Littleton
SLB : Ayers


CB's (5) :

Tru Johnson
EJ Gaines
Roberson
Joyner
Sensabaugh


Safeties (4) :

SS : Alexander, TJ McDonald
FS : Davis, Bryant

IR :

Randolph


Offense (26) :

While Hemingway may be designated as our 4'th TE, he could also act as our 6'th WR, ... so could Higbee for that matter.

WR's (5) :

1) Kenny Britt
2) Tavon Austin
3) Pharoh Cooper
4) Nelson Spruce
5) Bradley Marquez


TE's (4) :

1) Kendricks
2) Harkey
3) Higbee
4) Hemmingway

RB's (4) :

Gurley
Cunningham
M.Brown
Green

OL (10) :

RT) Havenstein, Donnal
RG) J.Brown, Saffold
C) Barnes, Kush
LG) Wichmann, Reynolds
LT) GRob, Williams


QB's (3):

Keenum
Goff
Mannion


Special Teams (3) :

P - Hekker
K - Zuerlein
LS - McQuaid



Practice Squad (10) :

WR - Mike Thomas
WR - Paul McRoberts
WR - Duke Williams
RB - Terrence Magee
OL - Demetrius Rhaney
OL - Isaiah Battle
LB - Josh Forrest
LB - Cameron Lynch
LB - Brandon Chubb
CB - Troy Hill


OK guys, ... have at it.
I like it! BUT!! I think the Rams will carry 6 WR's not 5!
 

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This is more of a prediction for what I think the Rams will do than what I would do myself. I don't think we need 10 OL with as much versatility as the Rams have (thank to Saffold). Why do we need another WR in week 1, again? The way I see it, we can dress 4.

I could live with 4 WR's myself the overall unit is very weak.

As far as why we need 10 Ol'ers.....If I were to be thinking that, I would take myself a trip down memory lane on the awful Rams OL history on injuries to OL'ers then come back & maybe rethink that.......but in truth we don't have 10 worth keeping either...
 

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Yeah, this is a tough cutdown. I think we keep 5 linebackers on the active and 5 cbs. In fact, here, I'll just post my depth chart, what I think they should do, not necessarily what they will do:

QB (3): Keenum, Goff, Mannion
RB (5): Gurley, Cunningham, Brown, Green, Chase Reynolds
WR (6): Britt, Tavon, Cooper, Spruce, Quick, McRoberts
TE (3): Kendricks, Higbee, Harkey
OT (4): GregRo, Rob Haven, Rodger Saffold, Pace Murphy
OG (3): Garret Reynolds, Cody Wichman, Jamon Brown
C (2): Tim Barnes, Eric Kush

Offense (26)
Offense PS (5): Demetrius Rhaney, Andrew Donnal, Mike Thomas, Duke Williams, Temarrick Hemmingway

DT (4): Michael Brock, Aaron Donald, Nique Easy, Cam Thomas
DE (5): Robert Quinn, Will Hayes, Ethan Westbrooks, Matt Longacre, Gene Sims
LB (5): Alec Tree, Mark Barron, Akeem Ayers, Bryce Hager, Cameron Lynch
CB (6): TruJo, EJG, Lamarcus Joyner, Troy Hill, Coty Sensabaugh, Roberson
FS (2): Cody Davis, Christian Bryant
SS (2): Mo Alex, T.J. Mac

Specialists (3): Hek, The Leg, McQuaide
Defense + Specialists (27)

Defense PS (4): Ian Seau, Chubb, Forrest, Morgan Fox,

Fill out or replace some on PS with other teams' cuts. I assume Fox will be signed somewhere. Hurts, but it happens, and hopefully he can be part of the rotation somewhere.
 

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I could live with 4 WR's myself the overall unit is very weak.

As far as why we need 10 Ol'ers.....If I were to be thinking that, I would take myself a trip down memory lane on the awful Rams OL history on injuries to OL'ers then come back & maybe rethink that.......

Its not like you are going to dress 10. And its also not like these guys won't be available for the PS or just street free agents if we end up needing them later in the season because of a rash of injuries.