Ref tries to justify no whistle on blatant facemask

[den-the-coach]

 

[kurtfaulk]

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so just to be clear, when the td is being reviewed upstairs they are not allowed to call for dpi or opi?

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[thirteen28]

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so just to be clear, when the td is being reviewed upstairs they are not allowed to call for dpi or opi?

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They really should be able to if all scoring plays are reviewed.

 

[den-the-coach]

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so just to be clear, when the td is being reviewed upstairs they are not allowed to call for dpi or opi?

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Correct that call is non reviewable.

 

[oldnotdead]

The noncall on Higgins resulted in a TD.

The ticky tacky holding call on the Bengals ultimately resulted in a TD.

Bad officiating....yes....but no effect on the final game outcome as they balanced out. Boohoo Bungle fans, tears, and pitiful whining from fans that rival the Niner fans. They don't remember that even then the Bungles had an opportunity to win or tie the game, by just one yard and couldn't get it with 2 downs. They may have a Burrow now but they are still the Bungles. They assume they will be in the thick of things next year. But their list of FA is almost as long as the Rams. Look at all the competitive teams in the AFC, KC, Titans, Ravens, Chargers all have good QBs to rival Burrow. Who knows if ever the Bungles will get back to the SB. They could just as easily slip into mediocrity.

Yep all the crying and whining is music to my ears, making the win even sweeter. Suffer on you jerkoffs.

 

[den-the-coach]

They really should be able to if all scoring plays are reviewed.

Nope, they only confirm a TD and possession, not if there was a penalty. Remember they tried to make PI reviewable and it didn't work out so well.

 

[thirteen28]

Nope, they only confirm a TD and possession, not if there was a penalty. Remember they tried to make PI reviewable and it didn't work out so well.

Yeah, it kind of sucks though when it's something that flagrant.

 

[den-the-coach]

Yep all the crying and whining is music to my ears, making the win even sweeter. Suffer on you jerkoffs.

I like to look at it this way, you cannot squawk if a call goes against you after the call went for you before hand. Gift TD to begin the 3rd quarter, you cannot forget about that in the 4th Quarter. At least you had a chance to stop the play, the Rams didn't.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

Nope, they only confirm a TD and possession, not if there was a penalty. Remember they tried to make PI reviewable and it didn't work out so well.

I wish we could talk about how it SHOULD be, as opposed to as it is.

Kills me that the NFL put on such a sham showing of PI being reviewable after the Rams/Saints debacle. Can't believe a league with this much $$$ can't simply have the eye in the sky available to make ANYTHING reviewable. PERIOD.

No more game-altering blunders. No more Stafford getting hit from behind helmet to helmet with no flag. A better game.

Blows me away.

 

[GBRam15]

I haven't watched the game but I thought Henderson was held/interfered with right before they called holding against Logan Wilson.

 

[den-the-coach]

I haven't watched the game but I thought Henderson was held/interfered with right before they called holding against Logan Wilson.

He was they talked about that on radio more then Collinsworth & Michaels reported as the Ram sideline was going crazy over the non call before the call on Logan Wilson holding Kupp.

 

[Tano]

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so just to be clear, when the td is being reviewed upstairs they are not allowed to call for dpi or opi?

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Nope - I got into an argument about that yesterday lol

 

[1maGoh]

i personally understand the ref viewpoint. live and even 1st replay from behind i never woulda have thought it was a facemask. you really need the right view and slow mo to see it imo. I think its a similar situation with the 3rd down holding against the cards. On replay you can easily make a case it wasnt a hold but from the refs view point the lb was beat and had his arm around kupp, so gonna look like a hold to them live

I think refs too often get a bad rap for incorrect or missed calls, yet everyone makes these judgements after seeing different angles and slow mo which the refs dont get the luxury of having (reviews aside). Personally i think that was some of the best reffing ive seen and almost perfect in terms of what you'd want from the refs going into any game, so no complaints from me

You're right about it not being the refs fault. Some of them are shit (Vinobich, Hochuli the elder) but most are just old ass dudes doing a job that puts them in a bad position to execute effectively. The NFL, by choice and repeatedly, had out the customer in a better position to referee a game than the referees they pay. I cannot see how this benefits them within the structure of a fair game, but every year they refuse to adapt and revamp the referee procedures. Every year the video technology for viewers at home gets better and the refs eyesight gets worse, they are more likely to suffer from age related cognitive decline, and physical inability to keep up with the actual plays/players.

Imagine your employer actively working to make it easier for your customers to second guess you meanwhile refusing to equip you to do a good job. It would be awful.

 

[dang]

I get the red didn’t see the face mask. Things happen fast in the NFL. What blows me away is that Higgins actually thought he could get away with such a blatant face mask. I’ve seen blatant grabbing and pushing by a WR to gain advantage but who the F@#% grabs and twists a defenders face mask like that and thinks they can actually get away with it. Well I guess the end justifies the means I guess but that was bold.

 

[TXRams86]

Torbert: “We don’t get reprimanded when we blow a call so fuck off. Next question.”

 

[majrleaged]

That is how the game is played now. Push to see if the ref calls it. They know they don't want to. So they continually push the edges.

 

[GBRam15]

I get the red didn’t see the face mask. Things happen fast in the NFL. What blows me away is that Higgins actually thought he could get away with such a blatant face mask. I’ve seen blatant grabbing and pushing by a WR to gain advantage but who the F@#% grabs and twists a defenders face mask like that and thinks they can actually get away with it. Well I guess the end justifies the means I guess but that was bold.

If I had to guess, I think Higgins was just playing defense trying to prevent an interception. Ramsey probably picks that off without the face mask.

 

[TK42-RAM]

I thought there was more of a foul on Higgins than the PI called on the 3rd and 8 Kupp call. Kupp wasn't really restricted from trying to make a play on the ball, the LB was just in better position to his credit. Unfortunately, Torbert's experience as an attorney has reared its ugly head as lawyers are trained to never, ever be wrong or admit fault.

IMO I thought 55 played a brilliant hold - it was a split second hold with his right hand that cost Cooper momentum and pulled him off the ball while enabling 55 to make the play - he was unlucky that it was called as they were getting away with far worse but technically it was the correct call.

 

[Neil039]

I would jump all over this if not for the outcome of the game. No offense to anyone with a grievance here, I‘d rather celebrate the win over things that can’t be changed.

 

[TK42-RAM]

I don't quite understand why the NFL doesn't have the refs in NY hit a button for review on huge game changing plays like that. Its 2022, we have all the camera angles in 4K at the touch of a button. In the biggest game of the year, shouldn't we want a huge missed call recognized? Hell, I'm even fine if that means that the PI on Kupp is reversed, we might not have even needed that score without the terrible no call that resulted in a huge TD.

I still don't get how in 2022 in press conferences we can hear the players answer but not the question from the media.