RB Draft Talk

[TexasRam]

100%.

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Jeanty feasted on the bottom feeders on his schedule. Not trying to knock him because that’s what you’re. Supposed to do. But those who keep pushing he’s all great compared to others that have come out in the last 20 years need to pump those brakes.

I’ll match up the ACC schedule and that of the Tarheels against BSU’s schedule any day of the week and feel confident at the very least they come out with a winning schedule.

I’m curious asf to see Jeanty in the Raiders for instance where he has to be the man. He’ll produce, but not how people think

Saquan Barkley had 23 for 57 and 2.3 YPC in the Super Bowl and 19 for 65 vs the Steelers, 18 for 47 vs Cleveland.

Great Running backs get shutdown vs great defenses.

Penn St. 8th ranked defense in the nation, shutting down Jeanty is expected.

143 missed tackles and a 75.6% of his yards after contact is noteworthy. Not to mention the speed, elusiveness and especially the vision that pops on tape.

To each their own and even NFL scouts are dead wrong half the time. I would burn on a pick for him for damn sure.

 

[Corbin]

Saquan Barkley had 23 for 57 and 2.3 YPC in the Super Bowl and 19 for 65 vs the Steelers, 18 for 47 vs Cleveland.

Great Running backs get shutdown vs great defenses.

Penn St. 8th ranked defense in the nation, shutting down Jeanty is expected.

143 missed tackles and a 75.6% of his yards after contact is noteworthy. Not to mention the speed, elusiveness and especially the vision that pops on tape.

To each their own and even NFL scouts are dead wrong half the time. I would burn on a pick for him for damn sure.

What you are comparing is apples to oranges.

Are you telling me Penn State at #6th was the top ranked competition that Boise had to face? Nope. And on top of that Boise State was ranked 3rd.

The Chiefs had to sale out on Barkley and you seen what happened because of that. Barkley teammates took over the game, In the Super Bowl. Not a playoff game to a college team.

To be fair, all of BSU offense ran through Jeanty, but that’s part of my point, he’s not special to make it happen or not dangerous if they bottle him up his teammates have an opportunity to win one on ones. Granted his teammates were pretty average but still.

Bad comparison to try and prove a point Tex.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Here's the RAS scores for each running back I wouldn't mind with #26 not named Jeanty since he'll be long gone well before we pick. I still prefer Judkins personally.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Here's the RAS scores for each running back I wouldn't mind with #26 not named Jeanty since he'll be long gone well before we pick. I still prefer Judkins personally.

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I like Hampton and Henderson if they pick one early. I don’t think they will though. It’s more likely they go with a pass catching back late. That’s why I think Donovan Edwards is a possibility.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I like Hampton and Henderson if they pick one early. I don’t think they will though. It’s more likely they go with a pass catching back late. That’s why I think Donovan Edwards is a possibility.

You could be right. Honestly though, Henderson scares the shit out of me with how he already got nicked up in college but he does bring a speed dimension we don't have. I still think Judkins is just a better overall back than him though. The Rams can literally go so many routes at #26 that anyone's guess could be right. Besides, we have zero clue as to who will actually be left on the board that the Rams like as the draft approaches our pick.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

You could be right. Honestly though, Henderson scares the shit out of me with how he already got nicked up in college but he does bring a speed dimension we don't have. I still think Judkins is just a better overall back than him though. The Rams can literally go so many routes at #26 that anyone's guess could be right. Besides, we have zero clue as to who will actually be left on the board that the Rams like as the draft approaches our pick.

Late in round one it rarely works out the way we think it will.

 

[TexasRam]

What you are comparing is apples to oranges.

Are you telling me Penn State at #6th was the top ranked competition that Boise had to face? Nope. And on top of that Boise State was ranked 3rd.

The Chiefs had to sale out on Barkley and you seen what happened because of that. Barkley teammates took over the game, In the Super Bowl. Not a playoff game to a college team.

To be fair, all of BSU offense ran through Jeanty, but that’s part of my point, he’s not special to make it happen or not dangerous if they bottle him up his teammates have an opportunity to win one on ones. Granted his teammates were pretty average but still.

Bad comparison to try and prove a point Tex.

The apples to oranges argument is an easy one to fling.

We can take any RB against another and invalidate the comparison based on surrounding cast, defenses faced, weather etc.

We do this all the time here on this board. Stafford stats are far inferior to Goff's stats in 2024 but alas, surrounding cast, Oline, defenses faced etc.

There is no such thing as an apples to apples comparison ever, when comparing players, based on differing variables that affect the result.

To invalidate a player based on some bad games against tougher competition is very very silly.

If I wanted to I could pull up every Hall of fame QB and RB and demonstrate bad games each year at the college and NFL level every single year of their career.

We could also ask why so few RB's at Jeanty's level of competition didn't have similar consistent success if the defenses were so easy to run through.

I get the big games vs the SJSU of the world as skewing some stats, but again, if so easy why other RB's were incapable of doing it.

Again, the draft is largely a crapshoot and even the best scouts whiff on prospects at a high rate. So I expect different opinions as we try to compare apples and oranges.

Maybe you are right on this prospect, but this is one I would put my money on based on the rare vision, elusiveness, tackle breaking ability and home run ability.

System fit and surrounding cast will also determine a players success year to year.

Todd Gurley:
2015: 4.8 YPC
2016 3.2 YPC
2017 4.7 YPC

One year you are a Superstar. The next year they are wondering if they need to replace you.

 

[Corbin]

The apples to oranges argument is an easy one to fling.

We can take any RB against another and invalidate the comparison based on surrounding cast, defenses faced, weather etc.

We do this all the time here on this board. Stafford stats are far inferior to Goff's stats in 2024 but alas, surrounding cast, Oline, defenses faced etc.

There is no such thing as an apples to apples comparison ever, when comparing players, based on differing variables that affect the result.

To invalidate a player based on some bad games against tougher competition is very very silly.

If I wanted to I could pull up every Hall of fame QB and RB and demonstrate bad games each year at the college and NFL level every single year of their career.

We could also ask why so few RB's at Jeanty's level of competition didn't have similar consistent success if the defenses were so easy to run through.

I get the big games vs the SJSU of the world as skewing some stats, but again, if so easy why other RB's were incapable of doing it.

Again, the draft is largely a crapshoot and even the best scouts whiff on prospects at a high rate. So I expect different opinions as we try to compare apples and oranges.

Maybe you are right on this prospect, but this is one I would put my money on based on the rare vision, elusiveness, tackle breaking ability and home run ability.

System fit and surrounding cast will also determine a players success year to year.

Todd Gurley:
2015: 4.8 YPC
2016 3.2 YPC
2017 4.7 YPC

One year you are a Superstar. The next year they are wondering if they need to replace you.

Todd Gurley:
2015: Rookie Year no tape
2016: middle school offense/Rob Boras OC JeffFisher final NFL gig
2017: McVay shows up?
2018: 4.9 YPC SB run year
Are we going to really discuss what happened here?

Seriously you’re just providing evidence to my point. You responded to my post with an apples and oranges argument.

Then you respond to my rebuttal with everything is an apples and oranges argument.

Thats a Kobayashi moment.

 

[Mackeyser]

Do the Rams EVER pick who they've met with? I seem to recall that being a thing a few years ago where we met with several players only to not pick any of them. Misdirect before the draft?

Typically we target those we’ve met at the Senior Bowl

 

[8to12]

Jarquez Hunter - Auburn - 5'10" 209 lbs - 4.44/40 - 1.58/10 split - RAS= 7.99

After hearing the Rams had met with Hunter, and not seeing any info post here, I thought I would post some details about him.

McVay likes explosive plays and I think the Rams became interested in him with this stat: 23 rushes for 15 or more yards. Of all the RB's outside of the top 5 (Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Judkins And K. Johnson), RJ Harvey is the only RB who had more.

Consensus spot from MFL Mock DataBAse has him @ 172


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JbNSkCfV8

 

[TheTackle]

You don't need to go speed in the backfield if you have it elsewhere. Key is having enough speed across your skill positions. So speed outside the hash (Adams & Atwell) and a brute in the backfield could work very well I think. And add a pass game TE who is a threat to shake backers or safeties across the middle and you are in business.

But of course again I won't complain if the Rams prioritize speed there. Just don't go get a dude whose speed only applies when he's got massive holes to work with. Backs need to be able to get dirty and work in traffic and shit.

I agree. How about a WR who can run through the line like Deebo?

Could Brashard Smith offer something similar? That is play slot WR but also take 5 or 6 handoffs a game. He is possibly the best special teams returner in this draft

 

[Neil039]

I'd rather have a top RB over an elite TE in this offense. JMO



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf-I8E1B104

 

[Merlin]

I agree. How about a WR who can run through the line like Deebo?

Could Brashard Smith offer something similar? That is play slot WR but also take 5 or 6 handoffs a game. He is possibly the best special teams returner in this draft

McVay may be looking for that, but his moves indicate to me that he's doubling down on his preference to stretch the field. A Deebo type who is a plus threat underneath would help us, but not as much as a big TE who can operate within that bubble you create with the stretched field. Or even a RB with real juice who could bust big runs and flip field position.

 

[dieterbrock]

If Kyren hasnt signed an extension by draft day, RB definitely in play round 1

 

[Merlin]

If Kyren hasnt signed an extension by draft day, RB definitely in play round 1

Gotta say I expect Kyren leaves in FA. His fumble problems will prevent them from doubling down on him and this draft demonstrates how often you have good options to choose from for your backfield.

I know they love the player. But this is a business.

 

[fanotodd]

One or two of these guys are going to end up in the perfect situation to maximize their talent and fit, and they'll end up being the dudes.

Amen. Starting your career in purgatory like the gmen or the browns has to suck.

Any of those RBs or TEs coming to the Rams will have a better shot than if they end up in jax or on the jets.

 

[dieterbrock]

Gotta say I expect Kyren leaves in FA. His fumble problems will prevent them from doubling down on him and this draft demonstrates how often you have good options to choose from for your backfield.

I know they love the player. But this is a business.

Well it seems to me that its a money thing, they love the player at a number.
If Jeanty or a back they feel is a "true #1" type were to fall to them, I wouldnt be surprised if they ended up cutting Kyren prior to the season since his '25 salary isnt guaranteed
On the other hand, it wouldnt surprise me if they announce that they agreed on a contract extension

 

[JonRam99]

Jarquez Hunter - Auburn - 5'10" 209 lbs - 4.44/40 - 1.58/10 split - RAS= 7.99

After hearing the Rams had met with Hunter, and not seeing any info post here, I thought I would post some details about him.

McVay likes explosive plays and I think the Rams became interested in him with this stat: 23 rushes for 15 or more yards. Of all the RB's outside of the top 5 (Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Judkins And K. Johnson), RJ Harvey is the only RB who had more.

Consensus spot from MFL Mock DataBAse has him @ 172


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JbNSkCfV8





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yikes look at Tuten... he's gonna go in the 2nd rnd. would looove to see him in horns.
But I get your point re: Jarquez. Every year there's some RB kid drafted late that tears it up in this league.

 

[Merlin]

Well it seems to me that its a money thing, they love the player at a number.
If Jeanty or a back they feel is a "true #1" type were to fall to them, I wouldnt be surprised if they ended up cutting Kyren prior to the season since his '25 salary isnt guaranteed
On the other hand, it wouldnt surprise me if they announce that they agreed on a contract extension

Yes I suppose there is of course a number they'd ink him at and be happy about it. I just don't expect him and the Rams to see that number the same.

The fumbles moved back the decision on whether to sign him I'd say. Because if he had been secure with the ball they probably decide they want him for this next 1-2 year run for the title and get it done. But now they're probably thinking "let's see if he can secure that thing over the 2025 season."

And that means there's a good chance in this draft, which is loaded at RB as we are all aware, they will hit a pick where that is the best player available. This lessens the likelihood of him getting done, though if he can win the job again and secure the ball I'd imagine they try to get something done.

Question is where does that happen. And do the Rams finally add a back who has a different element to his game. Martinez for example, who I think is going to be a stud in this league. Skattebo is quite similar, and probably better in the pass game. Maybe they don't prize speed in this next back but rather some punishment for teams that load up the back end. I hope so at least.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Jarquez Hunter - Auburn - 5'10" 209 lbs - 4.44/40 - 1.58/10 split - RAS= 7.99

After hearing the Rams had met with Hunter, and not seeing any info post here, I thought I would post some details about him.

McVay likes explosive plays and I think the Rams became interested in him with this stat: 23 rushes for 15 or more yards. Of all the RB's outside of the top 5 (Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Judkins And K. Johnson), RJ Harvey is the only RB who had more.

Consensus spot from MFL Mock DataBAse has him @ 172


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JbNSkCfV8





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A RB like this seems more likely than a round one RB imo