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One correction... we poached Hollins off of Denver’s practice squad. I know because when we did it, my Broncos friend ripped me a new one for poaching his players... he really liked him
You might be right Mack but I was utilizing his contracted information where it said that Hollins on September the 5th 2020 was Waived by Denver. It also said that on September the 6th the Rams Claimed Hollins off waivers. Not a big difference to me though.
Justin Hollins Contract Breakdowns, Salary Cap Figures, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac
 

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Goff had best fall on his face in Detroit, and Stafford bring the Rams a SB win, that's all folks!!!!!!!!
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Come on Train!! As a no ling time Rams Fan I respect JARED GOFF.

This is a salary Cap thread.Either you like the Trade or you don’t.It’s not like watching a CARTOON. Porky Pig & the Loneytones was Great.

I’m thinking that yes The price & Cap helped this trade make sense.

Let’s see & enjoy the SHOW before you turn it of or go Directly to THE END.Your a better Rams Fan than that I like your passion & post.
 

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You might be right Mack but I was utilizing his contracted information where it said that Hollins on September the 5th 2020 was Waived by Denver. It also said that on September the 6th the Rams Claimed Hollins off waivers. Not a big difference to me though.
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Bonifay I know you liked him.Your always cheering for these type of players.
I think we both enjoy watching the development of RAM PLAYERS & The way McSnead(Snead) find these guys.
I have not read any of this post really.

Kenny Young finally started to show some upside. Micah Kiser comes back healthy hopefully.
Trayvon Howard I’m sure doesn’t cost much either & he was going to be battling for a starting spot.

I still go back to Troy Reeder.He really held his own claiming the starting mlb spot over Micah Kiser.Shows the confidence & The Rams were the number defense only after he took that starting spot.
 

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Based on Spotracs numbers the Rams are now approximately $13 mil. over the projected CAP, that's about $10 mil. better than we were before the trade.
Expect more wheeling & dealing by Snead soon, hopefully prior to the opening of free agency. Havenstein & Brockers may be on thin ice.
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Good Call!! It just goes to show you how well The Rams develop & draft players.
Have to add FA signings & trades as well.Claiming players off waivers.It is the whole Smorgasburg.

The depth a DT & O”Line to me is amazing.There are so many Ram Fan doubters on Players.I know I get PISSED at Players.Watching the development is not always easy.

Big Rob Havenstien has been a solid RT,but he has to GO!!He is an Excellent Run Blocker,but not the best at securing the Edge.His contract as you can see is High,and deserving.
-The Depth on the O”Line with Andrew Whitworth coming back makes it an easy choice to try to get as much value as possible.

Brockers- has been such an excellent Ram.Him coming back was sort of like when Saffold was brought back.Big difference is production and contract.
The Defensive Line will be without Morgan Fox as well.Brockers production went down & other players stepped up.Greg Gaines should keep improving.
 

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Currently there is 14 teams over the cap. Seems like almost 1/2 the league has the same plan lol.
Yeah but only one team is in worse cap shape.

The Rams can get a ton of cap relief by restructuring Donald, Ramsey, Woods and Kupp but don’t see them getting to the point where they can be active signing free agents.

Hope I am wrong.
 

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Yeah but only one team is in worse cap shape.

The Rams can get a ton of cap relief by restructuring Donald, Ramsey, Woods and Kupp but don’t see them getting to the point where they can be active signing free agents.

Hope I am wrong.

I counted 5 worse, but honestly who knows? Not being a smart ass but what difference does it make? 14 other teams have to find a way under the cap. We are not the only ones being reckless like the post I was replying to indicated.

To your point though, if some of those guys specifically Donald and Ramsey rework their deals we would actually be in pretty good shape
 

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Actually it's $24M better because I just looked earlier today and it showed us $37M over the cap.

So the Lions really did take those guarantees... WOW.

The Rams were in a tight spot.They ALWAYS PAY THERE PLAYERS!
The Evaluation process of Stafford & Goff make this trade special.Gurley’s contract is still on the books as well.

You look a Peters getting traded & Ramsey.Ogletree,Quinn picking up Suh. Just the little things of moving a player to make contacts work.

Yes first round draft picks,but those use to be Horrible Contracts without even watching a player in The NFL.
 

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Good Call!! It just goes to show you how well The Rams develop & draft players.

Unfortunately, it’s not $13M over ... it’s $35M over.

When River posted it on Saturday night, the site (Spotrac) incorrectly had Goff’s $22M dead-$ on the Lions books. Several of us pointed it out; and Spotrac has since corrected its error.

Open the link and you will see. Goff’s $22M dead-$ is now on the Rams, increasing the amount they are currently over the projected cap to $35M.
 

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I counted 5 worse, but honestly who knows? Not being a smart ass but what difference does it make?

To your point though, if some of those guys specifically Donald and Ramsey rework their deals we would actually be in pretty good shape

I checked Spotrac earlier today, and the Rams were 31st. Just checked again, they are listed as 30th.

Also just checked Over-the-Cap (those are the two best cap sites as far as I know), and it has the Rams at 27th.

The difference is that Spotrac has the Rams $35 over, while OTC has them at $31M over the projected cap (2021 salary cap has still not been announced).

Not being a wise guy either but I think it makes a huge difference.

Although it’s true that many teams need to create cap space, some teams are in much better position to do so than others.

In the Rams case they have four players with huge 2021 cap hits that have a significant percentage in salary as opposed to bonus. That’s where they can restructure and create cap space by converting salary to bonus.

The four are Donald, Ramsey, Woods and Kupp.

I posted the numbers on other threads. You can see their contracts on Spotrac. Has their 2021 cap hits and the breakdown between salary, bonus and roster bonus.

Beyond those four players the Rams’ Front Office is limited in what it can do unless it extends Stafford, or cut (or trade) players.
 

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You might be right Mack but I was utilizing his contracted information where it said that Hollins on September the 5th 2020 was Waived by Denver. It also said that on September the 6th the Rams Claimed Hollins off waivers. Not a big difference to me though.
Justin Hollins Contract Breakdowns, Salary Cap Figures, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

Yeah, that sounds right.

We must have got him on waivers before Denver could sneak him onto the practice squad.

Either way... he was mad at me... as if I orchestrated the claim...LOL.
 

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What's next for Los Angeles Rams after trading Jared Goff for Matthew Stafford?
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What's next for Rams after trading Jared Goff for Matthew Stafford? - Los Angeles Rams Blog- ESPN

THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay decided he wanted a new quarterback. He set his sights on the Detroit Lions' Matthew Stafford and not long after, Rams general manager Les Snead got the deal done.

Apparently a lot can change in nearly 17 months, from the time Goff signed a four-year, $110 million guaranteed contract to him being dealt in a blockbuster trade. Along with Goff, the Rams sent two first-round picks and a third-round pick to the Lions in exchange for Stafford.It's a rare quarterback-for-quarterback swap, along with the Rams' additional compensation to acquire Stafford and unload Goff's burdensome contract.The trade will not become official until the start of the league year on March 17, and neither team can publicly comment about the move until then.In the meantime, here are some answers to your most pressing questions about where the Rams go from here.

What does Stafford bring?
Stafford, who turns 33 Sunday, arrives in L.A. with a talented arm, instincts to navigate pressure and a lifetime of statistics. As an added bonus, his addition is expected to reinvigorate McVay as a play designer and playcaller.The biggest question, however, is whether Stafford’s impressive numbers from 12 seasons in Detroit translate to playoff wins in L.A.

Stafford -- the first overall pick in 2009 -- ranks first in Lions history in completion percentage (62.6%), passing yards (45,109) and passing touchdowns (282) and his 74 wins are the most for a starting quarterback in Detroit.And he did it without much support. Since 2009, the Lions have ranked among the worst rushing teams in the NFL and have fielded mostly subpar defensive units. But the glaring fact remains: Stafford hasn’t won a playoff game in three postseason appearances. That must change for the Rams' bold trade to pay off.

Why was Goff traded?
McVay, who gave his approval for the Goff extension prior to the 2019 season, decided an upgrade was needed to return to the Super Bowl. A two-time Pro Bowl selection, Goff helped guide the Rams to consecutive division titles, an NFC championship and Super Bowl appearance in his first two seasons partnered with McVay, who was hired in 2017 to nurture the development of the second-year quarterback and bring an explosive offense to Los Angeles.

Did the Rams have buyer's remorse with Jared Goff?
Ryan Clark explains why the Rams were not sold on Jared Goff after trading him to the Lions.
However, the offense has steadily declined since a discombobulating 13-3 loss to the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LIII.

In 2018, the Rams' explosive unit averaged 30.5 points per game (third), but dropped to 22.8 in 2019 (12th) and 21.4 this past season (23rd).With a sporadic running game the past two seasons, Goff has struggled when forced to play outside of his play-action comfort zone. And he has been inconsistent dealing with pressure, while proving prone to turnovers. Since 2019, Goff ranks second in the NFL with 38 turnovers, one behind the New York Giants' Daniel Jones.

What's the Rams' salary-cap situation after the move?
It's impossible to know the exact ramifications the trade will have on the salary cap until the NFL determines the 2021 cap number.

The Rams will incur a $22.2 million dead-money charge for trading Goff, but that will amount to a $12.75 million cap savings from what his cap charge ($34.95 million) would have been, according to ESPN Roster Management. Stafford will cost $20 million in salary-cap charges. Last season, the salary cap was $198.2 million, but it is expected to drop in 2021 due to a lack of revenue caused by the coronavirus pandemic. Before the season, a salary-cap floor of $175 million was implemented, but the cap is not expected to drop that low.Similar to last season, there will be a significant gap between the Rams' top talent and other players who will be relied on to start or provide depth.

Six players -- defensive tackle Aaron Donald ($27.89 million), cornerback Jalen Ramsey ($22.5 million), Stafford ($20.0 million), receiver Cooper Kupp ($14.5 million), receiver Robert Woods ($13.86 million) and left tackle Andrew Whitworth ($11.17 million) -- amount to nearly $110 million of the 2021 cap.

What is the Rams' draft situation?
First-round picks, who needs them? Not the Rams.

Since making a historic trade up the draft board in 2016, jumping from the No. 15 pick to No. 1 to pick Goff, the Rams have not made another first-round pick.In fact, the Rams are now scheduled to go seven years without making a first-round selection after sending their 2022 and 2023 first-picks to Detroit as part of the Goff-Stafford trade.

Unless a future trade is made to move into the first round, the Rams will become the third team since the 1970 merger to go seven years without a first-round pick, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. Where did all the picks go?

The 2017 pick went to the Tennessee Titans as part of the package to move up for Goff. In 2018, Snead sent the No. 23 overall pick to the Patriots in exchange for wide receiver Brandin Cooks. The following year, the Rams had the No. 31 pick, but traded down and finally, their 2020 and 2021 first-round selections were sent to the Jacksonville Jaguars as part of the blockbuster move to acquire Ramsey in October 2019.

In the upcoming draft, the Rams own second-, third-, sixth- and seventh-round selections and are expected to gain additional third- and fourth-round compensatory picks due to the departures of outside linebacker Dante Fowler Jr. and linebacker Cory Littleton last year.

Are the Rams positioned to win a Super Bowl now?
That was the intent of the trade -- to win now, with Donald and Ramsey in their prime and anchoring a defense that last season ranked No. 1 in the league, and with Kupp, Woods and tight end Tyler Higbee on offense to provide a solid supporting cast, along with up-and-coming feature running back Cam Akers. However, the Rams must shore up some holes before they can sharpie Super Bowl LVI at SoFi Stadium on their calendar.

In 2020, behind first-year coordinator Brandon Staley, the defense allowed an NFL-best 18.5 points per game. That performance will be difficult to repeat.Staley departed after one season to become head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers. NFL veteran coach and assistant Raheem Morris replaces Staley. However, McVay wants to keep Staley's defense and Morris comes from a 4-3 background -- not the 3-4 the Rams play -- and must quickly learn the intricacies of Staley's system.

Plus, there could be turnover at key positions. Outside linebacker Leonard Floyd, safety John Johnson III and cornerback Troy Hill are scheduled for free agency. Given the Rams' anticipated salary-cap constraints, it will be a challenge for them to return.

On offense, the Rams' most pressing need after acquiring Stafford is finding a deep threat to stretch a defense, which has been lacking since they traded Cooks to the Houston Texans last offseason.
 

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I checked Spotrac earlier today, and the Rams were 31st. Just checked again, they are listed as 30th.

Also just checked Over-the-Cap (those are the two best cap sites as far as I know), and it has the Rams at 27th.

The difference is that Spotrac has the Rams $35 over, while OTC has them at $31M over the projected cap (2021 salary cap has still not been announced).

Not being a wise guy either but I think it makes a huge difference.

Although it’s true that many teams need to create cap space, some teams are in much better position to do so than others.

In the Rams case they have four players with huge 2021 cap hits that have a significant percentage in salary as opposed to bonus. That’s where they can restructure and create cap space by converting salary to bonus.

The four are Donald, Ramsey, Woods and Kupp.

I posted the numbers on other threads. You can see their contracts on Spotrac. Has their 2021 cap hits and the breakdown between salary, bonus and roster bonus.

Beyond those four players the Rams’ Front Office is limited in what it can do unless it extends Stafford, or cut (or trade) players.

I understand all that. I have said for years I don’t like the way the Rams handle the cap. Person I was responding to had fought me on that for a while lol.

At some point I imagine it will catch up to them. They do manage to find ways around it and if they can get Donald and Ramsey to redo and Stafford extended for a year they will actually be in good shape.

The one difference we have them some of the others though is our roster is in pretty good shape. Like most teams there is holes but we potentially could be ok for next year. Beyond that I don’t want to speculate:rolleyes: could get ugly:D