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according to jaco if we like only make the playoffs or something next year... mcvay could be in trouble.

cant make this shit up lol

And of course there's all kinds of better coaches we could hire. Oh wait, can't think of one.

To even mention mcvay and hot seat in same sentence is clickbate 101.
 

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Yes he would have, even as a rookie he is a far superior tackler than
what we currently have. Unfortunately I think he is gone for the season.
I hope I am wrong about that. Because unless he comes back look for
our run defense to be mediocre at best.

I’m not going to defend what old blue eyes does on defense.I’ll admit Ernest Brown is missed Big Time. The rookie thing though? Then even as a rookie he was calling the defense.
I will defend Morris though & Shula. I guess under Phillips & Staley
the defense was called by the DB.

1999 Weedle
2020 Johnson
Fuller/Jones

Add Kenny Young trade helped to bring Obj & Miller to The Rams.
 

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I think JJ learned a lot from Weddle and became a signal calling force. JJ was our leading tackler--what a colossal loss.
 

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I didn't say in trouble I said in the hot seat. Lol

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Under Sean McVay, having that thumper run-stopping SAM has never been a priority.

And, except for last year, that's always been a problem.
I meant during the game.

Reeder is what he is.. a backup. It's unfortunate that Jones got hurt. Would that have been enough in this game?

I'm also still stunned by the number of missed tackles and Reeder is far from alone on that front.
 

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I think it's obvious they became aware of the need to counter. Why else would they bring in weddle.
During the game is what I'm talking about.

And, no, I don't think Weddle is a counter to anything other than injuries. I hope he can help, though.
 

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I'm thinking people think they know that a term only and exclusively means what they take it to mean and aren't open to any subtlety in language.

"Hot Seat" doesn't necessarily mean someone is expected to be fired.. although the way commentators use it, you'd think that it only means that.
It means that he's going to start feeling more, new and different pressures to succeed. It means that, maybe, he'll start being pressed a little more when he says "I didn't put the guys in a position to succeed".. like, maybe a follow up of "Then why do you keep doing the same things?"

From Merriam Webster

hot seat​

noun


Definition of hot seat


1slang : ELECTRIC CHAIR
2: a position of uneasiness, embarrassment, or anxiety

 

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I'm thinking people think they know that a term only and exclusively means what they take it to mean and aren't open to any subtlety in language.

"Hot Seat" doesn't necessarily mean someone is expected to be fired.. although the way commentators use it, you'd think that it only means that.
It means that he's going to start feeling more, new and different pressures to succeed. It means that, maybe, he'll start being pressed a little more when he says "I didn't put the guys in a position to succeed".. like, maybe a follow up of "Then why do you keep doing the same things?"

From Merriam Webster

hot seat​

noun


Definition of hot seat


1slang : ELECTRIC CHAIR
2: a position of uneasiness, embarrassment, or anxiety

yes it means someone is in danger of getting fired.

you know thats what it means - nice try though

There is no "subtle" meanings to the term - not when used with coaching.

maybe if you are reading a Jane Austen Novel.
 

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How dare you insinuate that Reeder is lacking in any way , shape or form.
He does not make mistakes.
And there are people here that will argue with you until the end of time, that he is flawless
in every way. :laugh4:
Weird stuff for someone who accused another poster of being a stalker..

Let's quickly revisit..
On this thread.. I'm happy to point out the 9ers targeted Reeder. You target weaknesses and, yep, he's a weakness.

Yup.

But I was listening to 11 personnel and they were talking about how the offense switching to toss made it easy to target Reeder and safeties.

What's the counter there? And why didn't the Rams have one?

On the previous discussion you said this... which is 100% wrong and easily recognized as wrong from the reverse angle.
I want you to go back and watch Marquise Copeland.
Marquise Copeland has one of the worst vantage points of anyone on the field.
AND is lined up all the way on the opposite side of the field in a Three Point Stance
How does he almost make a tackle on the runner before reeder even knows where the freaking ball is?


Like I said.. anyone who actually WATCHED the reverse angle would see it clearly.. from another poster..

@Kupped ... I agree with you. The video angle from behind the QB clearly shows Reeder is completely UN-able to see where the ball went for a split second. If Reeder's job was to follow Huntley then he did EXACTLY that, until he was able to literally see that Huntley did not have the ball. He played his role perfectly, if his role was to shadow Huntley on the keeper.


And what I said to you... oh.. I bolded something you missed...
Wait.. you're not blaming it on him... after blaming it on him?

Team game, dude.. your obsession with showing how bad a guy is... even when a play isn't his fault.. is funny.

My defense is pretty simple.. it's an RPO and Reeder is obviously tasked with mirroring Huntley on that.

Your Copeland comparison shows just how far you've drifted from reality. I just froze it... Copeland literally has an unobstructed view, right at Huntley and Freeman as the ball is released. The view from behind the center shows that Reeder is literally blocked by four players.

It's clear as day and anyone objectively looking at this can see that Reeder is blocked.

I am not arguing something big picture about Reeder.. I'm not arguing that he's good.. I'm pointing out what happened on that play.

I don't care if you'll debate, because there's nothing to debate when someone won't look at what's right in front of them.

Good players get frozen by the RPO game at times... that's one of the reasons that teams run the play.. because it works.
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yes it means someone is in danger of getting fired.

you know thats what it means - nice try though

There is no "subtle" meanings to the term - not when used with coaching.

maybe if you are reading a Jane Austen Novel.

Why are you telling me what I "know" when I've just told you what I know? That the term doesn't mean that? And I provide a link to the definition?

Between this and not being able to see what happened on a play we discussed, I'm just wondering if you selectively ignore chunks of posts you respond to. Can't think of another explanation.
 

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We'll see.

We'll see, as if this is actually a possibility in the next 2 or 3 years?

Dude, there is ZERO possibility that. He's been in the Plumtree than any other
During the game is what I'm talking about.

And, no, I don't think Weddle is a counter to anything other than injuries. I hope he can help, though.

Just kidding about weddle
 

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We'll see, as if this is actually a possibility in the next 2 or 3 years?

Dude, there is ZERO possibility that. He's been in the Plumtree than any other

Just kidding about weddle
Lol.. my bad.

btw.. I don't see McVay being fired unless he goes multiple years with a losing record and that ain't happening soon.

If they lose to AZ on Monday? I would expect/hope that people covering the team start asking more pointed questions about what the Rams are doing, big picture. Turn up the pressure.
 

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Why are you telling me what I "know" when I've just told you what I know? That the term doesn't mean that? And I provide a link to the definition?

Between this and not being able to see what happened on a play we discussed, I'm just wondering if you selectively ignore chunks of posts you respond to. Can't think of another explanation.

if i had the energy id just post about 100 stories about "the hot seat" ever last one will refer coaches being in danger of being fired.

Give me a break with the merriam webster dictionary definition that really isnt referring to the specifics of what we are talking about.

yeah the denotative meaning of "hot seat" refers to criticism, pressure, feeling like you are being judged ect ect.

But in sports for the past 100 years when people use that term they are talking about someone with a high probability of being shit canned or someone that has to "save" their job this year or the next.
 
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if i had the energy id just post about 100 stories about "the hot seat" ever last one will refer coaches being in danger of being fired.

Give me a break with the merriam webster dictionary definition that really isnt referring to the specifics of what we are talking about.

Well.. the guy who wrote it says that's not what he meant.

And it's a term with more meanings than what you're saying.

So, you have a problem with what he said contextually? Got it.

Because one of my reasons for bringing it up is that some terms/words/phrases come to mean something other than what they mean through repetitive misuse.

"Begs the question" comes to mind, for example.

But... again.. it's not what the poster meant.. and that poster's usage was absolutely correct and appropriate.
 

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We'll see, as if this is actually a possibility in the next 2 or 3 years?

Dude, there is ZERO possibility that. He's been in the Plumtree than any other

Just kidding about weddle

It wouldn't be the first time it has happened. It's obviously just my opinion just like you have yours. Im a huge mcVay fan but if he can't get the Rams over the top in the next two seasons I see changes coming. Whether it's him letting play calling go or it's something more dramatic...