Rams picking up Emmanuel Forbes on waivers

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I dunno. When i was cycling and really working out hard, at 6’2” I struggled to break 160 and I would eat an entire 18” pan pizza from Shakey’s Pizza (old SoCal pizza chain) almost every night since i worked there with mojo potatoes. Just dinner was over 4000 calories. Granted I cycled about 300 miles a week and did other workouts, but still.

Maybe my aerobic output was too high and I wasn‘t doing enough anaerobic exercise. I was broker than broke back then so i couldnt afford protein powders (and it was the 80s, they sucked)

Now I look at a donut and gain ten pounds…LOL. Caught up to me!
LOL. Yeah you probably got it right though. 300 miles a week is some extremely Superior cardio. Especially without the anaerobic exercise to build the muscle.
 

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Maybe he didn’t fit what Dan Quinn liked in a DB. If you go by the type of players on the Legion of Boom defense, it would seem he prefers bigger, thicker and more physical corners. Forbes would struggle to play that way.


A myth? I’ve been between 155-165 my entire adult life. I worked out in the winter months and landscaped the rest of the year. I ate more food than anyone I knew. My friends always joked that I should weigh 300 pounds. I never got fat and it was difficult to add any muscle mass. My metabolism didn’t slow down until I hit my mid 40’s.

Whoever said that’s some people can’t gain weight is a myth, needs to do more research.
It was an article I read and the quote was from a doctor. He was pretty adamant that people who say they can't gain weight aren't eating as much as they think or they're doing so much aerobic exercise that they burn it off. Did you ever track your calories?
 

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He looked bigger in that interview 4 months ago. Guess he couldn't keep the extra weight on.
Starvin' Marvin has more body mass.....


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It was an article I read and the quote was from a doctor. He was pretty adamant that people who say they can't gain weight aren't eating as much as they think or they're doing so much aerobic exercise that they burn it off. Did you ever track your calories?
No I never tracked calories. That was back in the 90’s. I couldn’t possibly have eaten anymore than I did. I recall getting sick one day in college and going to the campus clinic. The doctor there asked me what I had eaten for breakfast. So I listed everything. He was in disbelief. He said it was t possible for someone my size to eat like that regularly. I wasn’t very active in college aside from walking to classes and up the dorm steps. I stood at a desk drawing in my major. I had little time to do anything fun.

I wish I knew that doctor when I was younger. I’d either prove him wrong or he’d help me gain weight. I hated being small and thin.

My metabolism has slowed now and I still weigh the same as I did when I was in my 20’s. I’m 155 lbs and 57 yrs old now.
 

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I dunno. When i was cycling and really working out hard, at 6’2” I struggled to break 160 and I would eat an entire 18” pan pizza from Shakey’s Pizza (old SoCal pizza chain) almost every night since i worked there with mojo potatoes. Just dinner was over 4000 calories. Granted I cycled about 300 miles a week and did other workouts, but still.

Maybe my aerobic output was too high and I wasn‘t doing enough anaerobic exercise. I was broker than broke back then so i couldnt afford protein powders (and it was the 80s, they sucked)

Now I look at a donut and gain ten pounds…LOL. Caught up to me!
Freaking Shakey's Pizza.......YES!!
 

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I remember the offseason after his rookie year, Tutu talked about his weight. He said he wanted to add some muscle, but not add too much weight. That he feels he plays best at his current weight. It might be the same with Forbes, adding a bunch of weight might make him feel slower.
 

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I was so perplexed by this that I actually googled it for my own piece of mind lol. Apparently it's a myth that some people just can't gain weight. They just tend to genuinely have lower appetites than most people or are more active than most. So I don't know why tutu and Forbes aren't on a 5500 calorie diet so they can gain some weight.
When I was working with some very thin athletes part of what we worked on was gaining weight for improved performance.
Eating healthy food and eating a lot of calories is not easy.
If someone is not used to eating until uncomfortable, which is what it takes for some people, it can be torture. Eating skinless chicken breast and steamed vegetables, you can't really eat enough volume to gain weight.
Eating junk food helps add calories but doesn't help in any other way.
Its a slow process for most.
I used to work in a deli in San Diego when I was a kid that former Chargers DT Shawn Lee used to come into.
He would come in post practice a lot.
He would always order the same thing....a footlong steak sandwich, a footlong tuna sandwich, a half a turkey sandwich....all with double meat and cheese, two bags of chips and a dessert. He would sit there for over an hour and eat the whole thing, often sweating and complaining throughout. Part of the conditions coaches put on him was keeping his weight up, which given the workout schedule, was tough for him. He was miserable. He also said getting ready for camp he would set him alarm mid sleep to drink a weight gain shake (about 1200 calories) in the middle of the night.
Now a skinny DB going from 160 to 180 should certainly be easier than someone like Lee trying to maintain 320 lbs when his normal "big" weight was probably closer to like 280.
Forbes ability to tackle or handle not being pushed off etc would seem tough being so thin. His speed game should be fine of course.
But if he add a few pounds of muscle and the strength that should come with it it could only help.
 

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I remember the offseason after his rookie year, Tutu talked about his weight. He said he wanted to add some muscle, but not add too much weight. That he feels he plays best at his current weight. It might be the same with Forbes, adding a bunch of weight might make him feel slower.
Im sure this is the case.
I wish Tutu could add about 3 inches of height....
 

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No I never tracked calories. That was back in the 90’s. I couldn’t possibly have eaten anymore than I did. I recall getting sick one day in college and going to the campus clinic. The doctor there asked me what I had eaten for breakfast. So I listed everything. He was in disbelief. He said it was t possible for someone my size to eat like that regularly. I wasn’t very active in college aside from walking to classes and up the dorm steps. I stood at a desk drawing in my major. I had little time to do anything fun.

I wish I knew that doctor when I was younger. I’d either prove him wrong or he’d help me gain weight. I hated being small and thin.

My metabolism has slowed now and I still weigh the same as I did when I was in my 20’s. I’m 155 lbs and 57 yrs old now.
You sound exactly like my father! He was in the military and weighed 135! At almost 6 ft tall. Now he's 56 years old and he's gotten a little heavier at a grand or 160 lb LOL
 

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The only positive with this guy is that he makes Tutu look huge when he stands next to him
 

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I came on this earlier in the week. The first thing that came to mind is, either he wasn't panning out in Washington, or the have the depth they need in the secondary, or they're cutting the budget.

None- the-less...perhaps a change of scenery and defensive philosophy *may* bring a benefit to the Rams.
 

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When I was working with some very thin athletes part of what we worked on was gaining weight for improved performance.
Eating healthy food and eating a lot of calories is not easy.
If someone is not used to eating until uncomfortable, which is what it takes for some people, it can be torture. Eating skinless chicken breast and steamed vegetables, you can't really eat enough volume to gain weight.
Eating junk food helps add calories but doesn't help in any other way.
Its a slow process for most.
I used to work in a deli in San Diego when I was a kid that former Chargers DT Shawn Lee used to come into.
He would come in post practice a lot.
He would always order the same thing....a footlong steak sandwich, a footlong tuna sandwich, a half a turkey sandwich....all with double meat and cheese, two bags of chips and a dessert. He would sit there for over an hour and eat the whole thing, often sweating and complaining throughout. Part of the conditions coaches put on him was keeping his weight up, which given the workout schedule, was tough for him. He was miserable. He also said getting ready for camp he would set him alarm mid sleep to drink a weight gain shake (about 1200 calories) in the middle of the night.
Now a skinny DB going from 160 to 180 should certainly be easier than someone like Lee trying to maintain 320 lbs when his normal "big" weight was probably closer to like 280.
Forbes ability to tackle or handle not being pushed off etc would seem tough being so thin. His speed game should be fine of course.
But if he add a few pounds of muscle and the strength that should come with it it could only help.
That sounds absolutely grueling. And it honestly isn't worth it if you're trying to also keep your athleticism I bet. Like if Forbes gaining 20 lb means he's going to run a 4.5 it probably isn't even worth the effort.
 

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When I was working with some very thin athletes part of what we worked on was gaining weight for improved performance.
Eating healthy food and eating a lot of calories is not easy.
If someone is not used to eating until uncomfortable, which is what it takes for some people, it can be torture. Eating skinless chicken breast and steamed vegetables, you can't really eat enough volume to gain weight.
Eating junk food helps add calories but doesn't help in any other way.
Its a slow process for most.
I used to work in a deli in San Diego when I was a kid that former Chargers DT Shawn Lee used to come into.
He would come in post practice a lot.
He would always order the same thing....a footlong steak sandwich, a footlong tuna sandwich, a half a turkey sandwich....all with double meat and cheese, two bags of chips and a dessert. He would sit there for over an hour and eat the whole thing, often sweating and complaining throughout. Part of the conditions coaches put on him was keeping his weight up, which given the workout schedule, was tough for him. He was miserable. He also said getting ready for camp he would set him alarm mid sleep to drink a weight gain shake (about 1200 calories) in the middle of the night.
Now a skinny DB going from 160 to 180 should certainly be easier than someone like Lee trying to maintain 320 lbs when his normal "big" weight was probably closer to like 280.
Forbes ability to tackle or handle not being pushed off etc would seem tough being so thin. His speed game should be fine of course.
But if he add a few pounds of muscle and the strength that should come with it it could only help.
It is amazing how these football players have to put weight on. My son played Pop Warner with a kid that was a big kid, but not fat. Was a FB/TE in 6th grade. He went on to an elite private high school and put on weight to be an All Area OG. He was 6-3 280lbs. Signed a letter of intent to go to William & Mary. He never went. My son saw him a year later at a local gym he was about 185 lbs and was playing in a weight limited league at UPenn.

He just didn't like carrying the weight. This kid had pedigree. He was related to Sean McDermott, who grew up locally to where I live.

In fact I can say Sean McDermott once attended a Pop Warner game, when he was the Eagles DB coach, and saw my son score a couple of TDs.

Unfortunately my kid was like Forbes. As a 5-8 130 lb 9th grader, he figured to stick with baseball and pass on football. As a senior he was still only 6-0, 160lbs soaking wet.
 

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Grade 10 high school football weigh in: 6'2" 118 pounds. I ate everything back then and couldn't gain weight. Started to gain a couple of years later (up to 185 by the end of high school) and got all the way up to 270 by 30 years old. Back to 235 now.

Long story short, I was skinnier than Emmanuel at one point. Weight can be added, but sometimes the body just doesn't want to cooperate. Until you get old, then you just get fat.

It maybe that's just me.
 

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McVay and the Rams are probably the last team you want to see claim a high pick castoff.
 

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Poor guy after a full practice still has to go to the shower and run in circles in order to get wet.................................