Rams PFF grades: Best and worst performers in win vs. Giants

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Been home sick so have rewatched the game multiple times.

This Shelton score is stupid. No way it should be that low. PFF looks to have gotten lazy in their scores again.

I think PFF needs an internal audit of their scorers or more public visibility into each play and why the score is what it is.
Agree ....I thought that our center Coleman Shelton had one of his best NFL games as a starter against NYG. He is getting better with age....

If I had our HC's ear I would strongly suggest getting this OL a serious workout in the run game this Sunday night. McVay has one of the better healthy OLs in the NFL now & he should give them big dogs their bones in digging up sod a mile high behind Corum & Williams & short very safe passes to our 3 TE's.
 
He had one bad week where he lost points for lineup over the LOS. It was a bad penalty that shouldn't happen again. He was hurt last year and should be healed up now. I expected a good year from him. The cap hit would be costly and not save the Rams money if traded this year. It's still early in the season so he can improve.
Nailed it. Terrible penalty that CANT happen. Fiske still has the chance, and with Donald pushing him, to be a standout player.
 
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I observed many offensive snaps where RG Dotson blocked nobody ....he was just holding out both arms, touching the shoulders of the OC & RT
Yep protecting his gap. Delayed Blitz, looping stunts. Offensive gap integrity.
The reason he had his hands on C-RT is so he could feel if one or the other start losing their
blocks to his side at which time he would help whichever player needed help.
I'm assuming these where passing downs. He was correct in doing that.
 
Focused on Fiske. There were more then a few times he got absolutely blown out in the run game. Numerous key pressures on the pass game, so still think his PFF score is too low.
Sometimes we ask him to do things that don't suit his attributes. Fiske is all about quickness and explosion. He belongs in an attacking, one-gap style system where try to disrupt runs by slanting, penetrating, stunting and using their athleticism to mess up the blocking scheme. Asking Fiske to 2-gap and hold ground vs Francis Mauigoa or set the edge vs Andrew Thomas, it is predictable what is going to happen. Mauigoa is a monster. A coach can't expect Fiske to win that battle, just ask him not to lose as badly. There's a play where the RT and TE double team blows out Fiske. Similar deal, Fiske isn't good in that type of situation. Still, the TE shoving him out of the way is a blocking specialist, Chris Manhertz. The reason he's on their roster is to block. He literally only had one catch all of 2025. He's in his 11th NFL season, but only has about 300 career receiving yards.

The Giants aren't very good overall, but I think they have some talented young players. Someday, maybe they'll become a decent team.

Fiske gets pushed around. He isn't a big guy with ideal length. On the other hand, give credit where credit is due. Some of the opponents blocking him are pretty good. That's one reason I don't like PFF grades. When Aaron Donald faced Pro Bowl level guards, he typically would dominate and they'd have bad PFF grades for that game, lowering their season PFF score. I don't understand that. The "expected win rate" if you're facing a HOF defender should be low. Sure, AD made you look silly, but he does that to everybody. I noted the opposite thing happen with Austin Blythe when he had a good PFF grade one season. I noted that he was a "lamb killer", because he had strong performances against some DTs who weren't very good.
 
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X Smith should got a minus grade. Cobbled ball, fair catches inside the ten giving Rams horrible field position. That needs to change.
He still looks skittish
Personally, I would make a change. Alex Bachman provides better security and I think judgment too when allowing the ball to hopefully bounce into the endzone. I don't believe they will do this, but they have Atwell to Stretch the field so that is where Smith comes into play as a WR and Bachman also offers something as a WR too albeit more of a possession option in that area.

I would activate Bachman for the Denver game and keep Smith inactive and see how it goes with Bachman.
 
Yep protecting his gap. Delayed Blitz, looping stunts. Offensive gap integrity.
The reason he had his hands on C-RT is so he could feel if one or the other start losing their
blocks to his side at which time he would help whichever player needed help.
I'm assuming these where passing downs. He was correct in doing that.
Yes, sir ...pass protection .....Yes, agree, but my point was that there were numerous times when RT was losing his blocks & Dotson didn't engage... one caused a hurried throw... good thing Dotson has long arms for an OG.

I am impatient; I need to remind myself it takes so much longer for the OL to get gelled, even after playing most of the 2025 season together.
 
He's an interior pass rush specialist. But now we have a better one in AD. Rams will definitely let him walk in FA.

I tend to think Fiske will walk too, but it may not be connected to AD because Fiske is under contract for this season and next. I doubt AD will still be playing by the time he's a free agent.
 
Great line by Sam Farmer today:

"Receiver Davante Adams made several acrobatic catches befitting of the retina-burning yellow “Classic Sol” jerseys that turned the Rams into human highlighter pens."
I like the 1951 Champions Sol jerseys myself.

And they are 1-0 in them.
 
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I like the 1951 Champions Sol jerseys myself.

And they are 1-0 in them.
Just got mine, today...

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Yes, sir ...pass protection .....Yes, agree, but my point was that there were numerous times when RT was losing his blocks & Dotson didn't engage... one caused a hurried throw... good thing Dotson has long arms for an OG.

I am impatient; I need to remind myself it takes so much longer for the OL to get gelled, even after playing most of the 2025 season together.
OK I gotcha. And I don't think you're being too impatient. These 3 are in their 2nd year together ( I think ).
All I know is we have to get healthy and quick.
Apologize for late response. Been too busy. first time back ROD since my post.
 
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He's an interior pass rush specialist. But now we have a better one in AD. Rams will definitely let him walk in FA.
I think Fiske is a try-hard guy that really benefitted from having his buddy Verse playing next to him. What Verse brought in terms of push, and energy, Fiske fed off.

I’ve noticed this defensive line lacks energy, life. So much talent. So many dancing bears.
 
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Okay so you think Donald, Poona, Turner, and Young are dancing bears; HaHa. Try improving the coaching scheme if you want to improve this unit.
 
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I think Fiske is a try-hard guy that really benefitted from having his buddy Verse playing next to him. What Verse brought in terms of push, and energy, Fiske fed off.

I’ve noticed this defensive line lacks energy, life. So much talent. So many dancing bears.
Yeah the Rams loaded their defensive front with penetrators. But they completely lack physicality. They can raise the bar on stopping the run for a small window, but quickly become exhausted and disintegrate vs a balanced attack that can move the chains and make them do what they don't like to do.

So everything works when the offense fires off and puts up points. But when Stafford has his head up his ass or the OL forgets how to pass block or the weapons aren't all available and this offense struggles the defense cannot carry the load.

To be an actually dominant defense at this level you must be able to stop the run and get off the field, so that teams cannot exhaust you by the second half when you hit crunch time. This is not a dominant defense. They are a pass game complement defense designed to destroy QBs playing catchup.
 
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I tend to think Fiske will walk too, but it may not be connected to AD because Fiske is under contract for this season and next. I doubt AD will still be playing by the time he's a free agent.
AD will remind them what a 3T looks like. He's not who he was, but he can actually handle a double team without being washed out of the play. Fiske cannot. And at this point since he still cannot, I doubt he's a long term piece. Rams will let him walk.
 
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Okay so you think Donald, Poona, Turner, and Young are dancing bears; HaHa. Try improving the coaching scheme if you want to improve this unit.
I believe in the Rams D-line talent. I haven't given up on them for this year, but we cannot keep saying, "but Myles Garrett is not there. Wait until he gets back!"

They Rams are toward the basement so far with a mere 3 sacks, and one of them are by a blitzing linebacker. We cannot be so dependent on the full health "dream team" to apply pressure on opposing quarterbacks.

And I am, so far, a little disappointed Donald has been slow to ramp up. I understand he has been out 2 years. The underlying reason for his return was to pair up with Garrett, then, uh-oh.

It seemed he wasn't as fired up the other night. And you can read all kinds of win-rate stats saying he was dominant, but the bottom line is- the Rams Dline is nothing to fear at this point.

Call it coaching, scheme, or lack of talent, right now they are dancing bears.

dance moon GIF
 
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