Rams need big-body receiver as deep threat for Matthew Stafford

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Rams need big-body receiver as deep threat for Matthew Stafford​

The Los Angeles Rams already one of the most productive receiver duos in the NFL in Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp.

DeSean Jackson’s signing in free agency gives the Rams a deep, vertical threat with speed, and Van Jefferson should develop into a consistent, reliable third receiver in his second season.

That said, the Rams do not have a big, physical receiver that can consistently win contested catches down the field. And that’s something that Matthew Stafford had during his time with the Detroit Lions.

Most notably, Calvin Johnson provided a big, physical presence at receiver for the Lions and Stafford during his Hall of Fame career. Most recently, Kenny Golladay did that for the last couple seasons in Detroit.

The Rams do not have a big, physical receiver with those traits currently on the roster, and should look to add one in this year’s draft.

“If we can add firepower, someone to make a play, that’s good -- in whatever shape, form or genre,” Rams GM Les Snead said earlier this year. “We talk about receivers a lot and how can they make a play. Some people can run by people. Some people can make people miss. Some people can just go up and get a rebound, and things like that.”

There are a handful of receivers who fit that profile, including LSU’s Terrace Marshall and Michigan’s Nico Collins.

The Rams struggled to create big plays last season. L.A.’s six passing plays of 40-plus yards was tied for eight-worst in the NFL. The Rams’ 20 passing touchdowns was seventh-worst in the league. And L.A.’s 6.8 yards per pass play was No. 19 in the NFL.

Receivers currently on the roster

WR (7): Starters
-- Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, DeSean Jackson. Reserves -- Van Jefferson, Trishton Jackson, Nsimba Webster, J.J. Koski.

Receivers to consider for the Rams

Round 2 (57)
Terrace Marshall, 6-3, 205, LSU
The skinny:
Finished with 106 receptions for 1,594 receiving yards and 23 total touchdowns at LSU, so the production is there. Marshall can create big plays down the field with his athleticism and wide catch radius, and also can play in the slot.

Round 3 (88)
Nico Collins, 6-4, 215, Michigan
The skinny:
Collins averaged 17.8 yards per catch and finished with 13 total touchdowns at Michigan. Good size/speed athlete that needs to develop as a receiver. Collins ran a 4.42-second, 40-yard time at his pro day. He opted out of 2020 season.

Round 3 (103)
Tutu Atwell, 5-9 155, Louisville

The skinny: Yep, he’s small. However, like DeSean Jackson, Atwell has home-run speed and is a big play waiting to happen. Atwell finished with 139 receptions for 2,303 receiving yards and 20 touchdowns at Louisville.

Round 4 (141)
Tamorrion Terry, 6-3, 207, Florida State
The skinny:
Big receiver with electric speed who can go up and win contested catches at the moment of truth. Terry holds school record with five touchdowns of 70-plus yards.

Round 6 (209)
Demetric Felton, 5-9, 189, UCLA
The skinny:
Felton played running back for the Bruins but projects as a receiver in the NFL. He competed at that position with good results at the Senior Bowl. According to Ryan Dyrud of the Los Angeles Football Network, the Rams have had zoom conversations with Felton.

Round 7 (252)
Ben Skowronek, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame
The skinny:
Physical receiver who is an effective run blocker and played against good competition with the Fighting Irish. He finished with 29 receptions for 439 receiving yards and five scores last season.
 

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If the Rams do go after a big WR in the draft... and that's a big "if"..... then it cements the drafting of Van Jefferson in the second round last year as a huge mistake. I like Jefferson but he's very similar to Kupp and Woods, who were both signed to long term deals. If the needs at WR were speed and size then acquiring Jefferson is a real head scratcher.

So I don't see them drafting anymore receivers... at least early. Jefferson is their guy. But if the Rams do draft a WR, then Jefferson is the odd man out.
 

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That said, the Rams do not have a big, physical receiver that can consistently win contested catches down the field. And that’s something that Matthew Stafford had during his time with the Detroit Lions.
This writer is falsely assuming that Stafford's Receivers will be challenged as much as they were in
Detroit's system.
Stafford's WR corps will simply be more open in McVay's system.
Not saying I wouldn't love to have a big bodied guy to complement our current group
It's just not a big enough need, that the Rams should consciously be targeting.

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Big Guy would be nice, but not a priority.
 

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Thread title says we need a big bodied WR deep threat which I've been saying for months now yet it lists Felton and Atwell? Guy I've been pushing for needs a bit of work as a deep threat (needs to work on using his body) but has speed and great return ability.

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Looks very good. The returnability could be a big difference maker. Wish he did punt returns too. If he can do that I would be all in.
 

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Let's not forget Hopkins could be a thread in the red zone. He has some hops at 6'5".

The Rams need a return guy more than a big deep threat guy that won't see the field much this year anyway. it's nice if they could get one but, not critical IMO at this time.
 

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If the Rams do go after a big WR in the draft... and that's a big "if"..... then it cements the drafting of Van Jefferson in the second round last year as a huge mistake
Not really, depends on who the guy is. They could still be looking for that hybrid TE/WR, *OR* Hopkins fits that role and they look for a banger of a TE like Tremble.
 

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I'll stick with a later round speed guy who will be insurance for DeSean Jackson and double as a P/K Returner.

I'd rather try to use a guy we already have in Hopkins as our big receiver hybrid TE/WR. jmo.
 

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This writer is falsely assuming that Stafford's Receivers will be challenged as much as they were in
Detroit's system.
Stafford's WR corps will simply be more open in McVay's system.
Not saying I wouldn't love to have a big bodied guy to complement our current group
It's just n ot a big enough need, that the Rams should consciously be targeting.

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This chart represents among other things, the difference in having a OC and a Badass OC.
Big Guy would be nice, but not a priority.

Why doesn’t that chart compare the same years?
 

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Rams need big-body receiver as deep threat for Matthew Stafford​

The Los Angeles Rams already one of the most productive receiver duos in the NFL in Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp.

DeSean Jackson’s signing in free agency gives the Rams a deep, vertical threat with speed, and Van Jefferson should develop into a consistent, reliable third receiver in his second season.

That said, the Rams do not have a big, physical receiver that can consistently win contested catches down the field. And that’s something that Matthew Stafford had during his time with the Detroit Lions.

Most notably, Calvin Johnson provided a big, physical presence at receiver for the Lions and Stafford during his Hall of Fame career. Most recently, Kenny Golladay did that for the last couple seasons in Detroit.

The Rams do not have a big, physical receiver with those traits currently on the roster, and should look to add one in this year’s draft.

“If we can add firepower, someone to make a play, that’s good -- in whatever shape, form or genre,” Rams GM Les Snead said earlier this year. “We talk about receivers a lot and how can they make a play. Some people can run by people. Some people can make people miss. Some people can just go up and get a rebound, and things like that.”

There are a handful of receivers who fit that profile, including LSU’s Terrace Marshall and Michigan’s Nico Collins.

The Rams struggled to create big plays last season. L.A.’s six passing plays of 40-plus yards was tied for eight-worst in the NFL. The Rams’ 20 passing touchdowns was seventh-worst in the league. And L.A.’s 6.8 yards per pass play was No. 19 in the NFL.

Receivers currently on the roster

WR (7): Starters
-- Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, DeSean Jackson. Reserves -- Van Jefferson, Trishton Jackson, Nsimba Webster, J.J. Koski.

Receivers to consider for the Rams

Round 2 (57)
Terrace Marshall, 6-3, 205, LSU
The skinny:
Finished with 106 receptions for 1,594 receiving yards and 23 total touchdowns at LSU, so the production is there. Marshall can create big plays down the field with his athleticism and wide catch radius, and also can play in the slot.

Round 3 (88)
Nico Collins, 6-4, 215, Michigan
The skinny:
Collins averaged 17.8 yards per catch and finished with 13 total touchdowns at Michigan. Good size/speed athlete that needs to develop as a receiver. Collins ran a 4.42-second, 40-yard time at his pro day. He opted out of 2020 season.

Round 3 (103)
Tutu Atwell, 5-9 155, Louisville

The skinny: Yep, he’s small. However, like DeSean Jackson, Atwell has home-run speed and is a big play waiting to happen. Atwell finished with 139 receptions for 2,303 receiving yards and 20 touchdowns at Louisville.

Round 4 (141)
Tamorrion Terry, 6-3, 207, Florida State
The skinny:
Big receiver with electric speed who can go up and win contested catches at the moment of truth. Terry holds school record with five touchdowns of 70-plus yards.

Round 6 (209)
Demetric Felton, 5-9, 189, UCLA
The skinny:
Felton played running back for the Bruins but projects as a receiver in the NFL. He competed at that position with good results at the Senior Bowl. According to Ryan Dyrud of the Los Angeles Football Network, the Rams have had zoom conversations with Felton.

Round 7 (252)
Ben Skowronek, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame
The skinny:
Physical receiver who is an effective run blocker and played against good competition with the Fighting Irish. He finished with 29 receptions for 439 receiving yards and five scores last season.
Funny, I don't think any of those guys can play Center, Guard or Tackle....
 

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Both Gerald Everett and Josh Reynolds proved being a big bodied receiver isn't enough. Both were in the 6'2" height range and ran in the 4.6 and 4.5 range respectively. Here is the problem with most big bodied WR's, that the NFL is not the NCAA. Length and bulk are nice but if the receiver doesn't have the burst or blazing speed to separate they must be technicians at contested catches. Big bodied receivers be they TEs or WRs normally are long striders who lack that burst coming out of their break to create separation. Finding a big bodied WR with the agility and burst to separate is more rare than you imagine. The need is for a WR who can create separation at the top of the route and length really is secondary. All this is exactly why they were overjoyed when Van Jefferson was still on the board and has the potential to be another Kupp type of receiver only faster.

Brycen Hopkins is 6'3" and timed at 4.66, Higbee is 6'6" and timed in the low to mid 4.6 range. Either can line up in the slot (Y WR) position. Jefferson is almost 6'2" and can jet being timed at 4.3 and 4.4. So they already have tall receivers and one who is very fast and can definitely get deep. Cooper is also 6'2" and there is no doubt he can get open at all levels. Woods is 6' and as a rookie was timed at 4.5 and his sweeps tend to show he hasn't lost much off that.

So frankly I don't see the urgency, i.e. the need to just grab a WR in this draft just because a big body. That ship sailed with Reynolds and Everett and the drafting of Van. The fact that they signed 5'10" Jackson would seem to indicate that McVay values route running, and hands and the ability to get separation above being a "big body".
 

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Yep I like Collins too, 6'4 215 and he runs a 4 42 40
Dude I’m a huge Wolverine fan and something about him never impressed me. Maybe he would have killed it the Sr. Idk.
 

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Dude I’m a huge Wolverine fan and something about him never impressed me. Maybe he would have killed it the Sr. Idk.
I've followed Michigan too since the Anthony Carter days they've always been my "other" team after Louisville. His stats aren't real impressive but the QB's he's had and the offense he's played in hurt those.Like DPJ last year I think he's being a little undervalued because they both have elite athleticism and when they make plays they make it look so effortless.
 

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Been pounding the table for Michael Strachan. 6'5", 228 lbs., legit 4.46 speed, etc. I have absolutely no idea why he's not getting more hype.