Rams facilities shut down by league due to COVID

[Elmgrovegnome]

Lets keep the talk on The Rams.

This is a big deal to the team, so lets keep the conversation there. I understand thats a tricky line to walk with this news hitting the team directly, but everyone knows what to do. Keep the conversation politically clean.

Too late. People jump at a excuse to spout off about politics. I’d blow it up and start it over imo.

 

[AppeasFBlGods]

For these athletes the vaccine is more of a threat than covid.

There is zero evidence to support this statement. Most if not all evidence is to the contrary. The vaccine is absolutely safer than the disease.

 

[snackdaddy]

Can't they do better with the testing? Who the hell is administering it? Higbee missed a game because of a false positive test. How many games around the league are missed due to false positives? They need to be better at testing.

 

[Poppinfresh]

There is zero evidence to support this statement. Most if not all evidence is to the contrary. The vaccine is absolutely safer than the disease.

That would depend upon your definition of "safer". The vaccine is absolutely safe. However, when talking about elite athletes in their 20's and 30's, the risks of them developing myocarditis - which would be a death sentence for their careers - is significantly higher than their risks of suffering long-term health consequences or death as a result of contraction of any variant from Delta beyond.

This is a trick talking haircuts play on people. They compare the rate of developing this condition as a side effect of getting the vaccine against the "potential" risks of the virus itself - with the potential being a blanket encapsulation of issues across all age groups and health statuses. Sure, the small possibility of being forced into retirement is way safer than "potentiially" dying, but they are not like comparisons. All that said, the vaccine is safe by any reasonable standard in the same way that buying a brand new electronic device is safe from defect by reasonable standard, and each human on this planet should find out what is specifically correct for them with their doctors, not by bureaucratic edict.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Too late. People jump at a excuse to spout off about politics. I’d blow it up and start it over imo.

Thread bans sent.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm an epidemiologist and virologist (they aren't the same things). A real, live one who has made his money off the study of patterns and causes of diseases up to and including this one and coming up with/executing plans to mitigate damage as a result of them. It is absolutely maddening that I - and most others in my field - have to sit back and quietly watch as talking haircuts, career politicians, and random software engineers at social media companies dictate what the messaging on this is going to be and how it runs basically exactly opposite to what people who have devoted their careers to this would say were we not muzzled.

But that's all I'll say on that. What I will say specific to the NFL, however, is that their policy on this is completely nonsensical. They've created a caste system by which jabbed and unjabbed players and personnel have different standards for when they can return, when the data has proven (and all the data we have so far on Omi bolsters this) there is no functional difference between the level of contagiousness the 2 groups represent as it pertains to others. Further, if it's this latest variant which, though the data is incomplete it is strongly leaning towards this conclusion, has a significantly higher level of infectivity but a significantly lower rate of mortality (true of 99.9% of all viruses, as their goal is to survive, so as they adapt they increase contagion and infection but as a trade-off become less dangerous), the current jabs which are based upon a dead strain are going to be less than 40% effective against it. This variant is going to tear through locker rooms one-by-one.

And there's nothing wrong with that because these people will be fine, you should just keep certain personnel out during what should amount to a modern day chicken pox party.

So, since the NFL CoVid protocols are what they are, and the Delta variant ( if I understood your post correctly) is likely to hit many other teams in the coming weeks.

So it may be a good thing that it is hitting the Rams now and not during the playoffs, because they were bound to get it eventually.

Right?

 

[Q729]

What a buzzkill.

 

[Mackeyser]

So, since the NFL CoVid protocols are what they are, and the Delta variant ( if I understood your post correctly) is likely to hit many other teams in the coming weeks.

So it may be a good thing that it is hitting the Rams now and not during the playoffs, because they were bound to get it eventually.

Right?

The issue the NFL will have to deal with is that while the Rams are going through this now, it's likely the Omicron variant which is much more transmissible, will run through the entire league.

What will the NFL do if the Bucs have a major outbreak during the bye week of the playoffs and half their team can't suit up for game? Or any other team?

We're dealing with this now and it may be a blessing in disguise insofar as we're going to have to make these adjustments now.

With so many spots still to be determined (I think 26 teams are still technically capable of making the playoffs which is CRAZY this late in a season), this could oust a number of teams and DRASTICALLY affect the playoffs.

Just from a strategy perspective, the NFL needs to figure this out NOW because if a highly placed team like the Bucs or Packers in the NFC gets ousted because they only have half of their roster... the outrage will be seen from space...

 

[payote75]

The Rams have one unidentified, non-vaccinated player who wouldn't be able to if they are on that list. The rest would be able to be cleared for Seattle with negative tests.

Isn't the one player the rookie? Garrett?

 

[tklongball]

There is zero evidence to support this statement. Most if not all evidence is to the contrary. The vaccine is absolutely safer than the disease.

Tell that to my Nephew, who now has to have a heart valve replaced when his Cardiologist told him not to get the vaccine, but the military forced him to. He was on track, and was doing great at all of his every 3 month check ups, and cardiologist saying he shouldn't need anything done until he was around 50 or 60. Then the vaccine, and now he is scheduled for a heart valve replacement in a few months. You know why people think the vaccine is safe? because the Doctor isn't allowed to say that his condition is vaccine related. 3 months ago, his heart was fine, then the vaccine, now Open heart surgery needed within a year, and the Doctor won't say it is vaccine related. He asked the doctor if in his career has has ever seen a heart deteriorate this fast, and the doctor said no, but still wouldn't call it vaccine related. Unfortunately, we are not dealing with science or even medicine at this point. It has all been politicized. They are fudging the statistics because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

The issue the NFL will have to deal with is that while the Rams are going through this now, it's likely the Omicron variant which is much more transmissible, will run through the entire league.

What will the NFL do if the Bucs have a major outbreak during the bye week of the playoffs and half their team can't suit up for game? Or any other team?

We're dealing with this now and it may be a blessing in disguise insofar as we're going to have to make these adjustments now.

With so many spots still to be determined (I think 26 teams are still technically capable of making the playoffs which is CRAZY this late in a season), this could oust a number of teams and DRASTICALLY affect the playoffs.

Just from a strategy perspective, the NFL needs to figure this out NOW because if a highly placed team like the Bucs or Packers in the NFC gets ousted because they only have half of their roster... the outrage will be seen from space...

Up to now the NFL is saying Tough titties. If this current situation leads to the Rams losing a game and they change the rules after the fact that will be a big bunch of BS for any team that had a ‘CoVid loss’ and missed the playoffs.

I don’t see how they can change such a rule for the playoffs. If they did and allowed positive players to play it could backfire and lead to aCovid free Bucs or Packers team to catching it during a game thus affecting them negatively the following week. It’s not a goventhat a player who catches it won’t actually get ill.

I think the league would have to say depth is part of the task of assembling a team. Every player counts. Roll with what you have.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Tell that to my Nephew, who now has to have a heart valve replaced when his Cardiologist told him not to get the vaccine, but the military forced him to. He was on track, and was doing great at all of his every 3 month check ups, and cardiologist saying he shouldn't need anything done until he was around 50 or 60. Then the vaccine, and now he is scheduled for a heart valve replacement in a few months. You know why people think the vaccine is safe? because the Doctor isn't allowed to say that his condition is vaccine related. 3 months ago, his heart was fine, then the vaccine, now Open heart surgery needed within a year, and the Doctor won't say it is vaccine related. He asked the doctor if in his career has has ever seen a heart deteriorate this fast, and the doctor said no, but still wouldn't call it vaccine related. Unfortunately, we are not dealing with science or even medicine at this point. It has all been politicized. They are fudging the statistics because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine.

That’s a pre existing condition. Totally different from a fully healthy individual.

 

[tklongball]

That’s a pre existing condition. Totally different from a fully healthy individual.

Read the message I was responding to.

 

[BatteringRambo]

Call Joe Rogan asap!
*proper diet and exercise prior *

 

[Psycho_X]

MNF - Rams at Cardinals

Yeah, I hate to say it, but i just don't have a good feeling either. Mostly because i simply don't trust the QB. And the lack of trust is a different type of lack of trust than what we had with Goff. With Goff, if he was protected I trusted that he would manage the game and would win it. If...

www.ramsondemand.com

My plan is working perfectly... shit i keep forgetting cardinals play the Lions. Darn it.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

STOP THE FLIPPING TESTING. We've lost our collective minds with this virus.

Did they test the 80K fans in the stands or the 15K in bars by the stadium after before the game??

This needs to stop its not good for the NFL its not good for anyone.

Tired of this...

I'm tired of this virus too but I get the testing. I work in a hospital and can tell you personally how fucked up some folks lungs get. The idea is so they don't spread it to those people that end up like that. The virus in general just sucks no matter what ones opinion is. I wish this damn thing would just go away and stop fucking with everyone's lives.

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

This is what really happened...


View: https://youtu.be/ai2d8srhoOs

 

[BatteringRambo]

I feel for our Rams, you want to inject me without ANY long term facts. Fire me! I won't do it, ever! Fucked NFL and humans species collectively.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Here's my a-political opinion.

I care not if you are pro/con vax, to play in the NFL you should be vaccinated and show your proof/card, just like in restaurants.

THEN, skip the testing and these stupid rules and just accept that everyone in the NFL will get the 'rona, but very few if any will have issues. Just like a freaking flu. They are vaccinated after all. It is proven to be less severe.

Again, not political, just common sense so I can watch the freaking NFL with full participation for each team.

This virus just blows period.

 

[BatteringRambo]

This is what really happened...


View: https://youtu.be/ai2d8srhoOs

EPIC show! IMO