Rams extend Big Rob Havenstein

[Elmgrovegnome]

For those of you mentioning Saffold: read the ‘Interesting tweet by Saffold’ thread. It sounds like staying with the Rams at a reasonable price is a likelihood.

 

[shaunpinney]

So glad that we're sticking with Havenstein, I know a lot of fans don't rate the right side of our line that much, but I disagree, I think Has is one of the best in the business at RT and Jamon compliments him well there, besides I'm a big believer in continuity in the line as a unit. So, lets see see the other guys start re-signing now

 

[Akrasian]

So glad that we're sticking with Havenstein, I know a lot of fans don't rate the right side of our line that much, but I disagree, I think Has is one of the best in the business at RT and Jamon compliments him well there, besides I'm a big believer in continuity in the line as a unit. So, lets see see the other guys start re-signing now

I doubt they resign both guards. Noteboom and possibly Demby should be ready to start by next year, and the Rams need to start saving money somewhere. I figure one of the guards will be allowed to go free agent, and the Rams will take the pick. At least one OL will be drafted for depth, probably 2 this coming offseason, for security.

 

[shaunpinney]

I doubt they resign both guards. Noteboom and possibly Demby should be ready to start by next year, and the Rams need to start saving money somewhere. I figure one of the guards will be allowed to go free agent, and the Rams will take the pick. At least one OL will be drafted for depth, probably 2 this coming offseason, for security.

It depends how they see things panning out. I don't think that Demby is an upgrade on Jamon (at the moment) and I'd rather see Noteboom develop his craft at LT under big Whit's wing rather than get stuck in the boiler house at RG. I'd like to keep the o-line intact personally, but I know that Whit IS nearing hanging up his cleats (and possibly Sullivan too) It would be nice to send them off after winning a ring

 

[Akrasian]

It depends how they see things panning out. I don't think that Demby is an upgrade on Jamon (at the moment) and I'd rather see Noteboom develop his craft at LT under big Whit's wing rather than get stuck in the boiler house at RG. I'd like to keep the o-line intact personally, but I know that Whit IS nearing hanging up his cleats (and possibly Sullivan too) It would be nice to send them off after winning a ring

Yeah, it'd be nice to keep them all together - but the Rams have limited resources and other needs too. As many of us have been saying - part of the cost of resigning AD to such a large contract (assuming he is resigned) is that at best hard choices will have to be made elsewhere. Part of that is the Rams are highly unlikely to resign their entire line. I think they are figuring that Noteboom can get playing experience in 2019 as a guard, then move over to OT the following year. And while Demby is unlikely to be as good as Brown would be in 2019, he may end up as a starter too, if neither guard is retained. I suspect they will try to sign one of the guards though.

Keep in mind that both their starting CBs are free agents over the next two years, as well as their FS. They also lose a starting DT. Some resources are likely to be put into TE (Higbee a FA after 2019, Everett after 2020); neither have produced to the level that McVay would like. If they start to, then they'll need to be resigned. Goff becomes very expensive - likely more than AD - in 2020, and will likely be over $30 million per in 2021. I'm sure Wade would like an impact all around edge rusher, which will take draft capital realistically.

But the big point, as I said, is that hard choices have to be made. And that includes not doing everything the team would like for the OL - unless they want to have little resources to use on the rest of the offense and the defense.

 

[Ants]

Some of you have a low view of Brown. i watch a lot of film on the Oline and he is a solid RG. In fact his power and quickness are top shelf for a guard in the run game. once he got the mental side figured out he was reallly solid. As a pass protector, he is also solid, only lacking in ability to lock on till the whistle. for the first 3 seconds he is money.

Having said that, he may be odd man out as we have a lot of options at guard right now and Saffold still has to get paid next year.

Agree.

 

[Selassie I]

Very cool.

I met Big Rob's Dad at the game in Jax last year. What a nice guy he is... and he's bigger than his son! Maybe we should look into signing Pops too LOL. I tell you this though... Big Rob has the perfect genes for the job.

 

[Rams43]

Well, I’m a JB fan.

But if I had to choose between extending JB or Saffold, it’s a no brainer.

It’s Saffold every single time. Besides, I think Saffold has another 3-4 Pro Bowl level years in him AND he might sign a Ram friendly 3rd contract extension.

If so, that would be a bargain that would be very hard to pass up.

 

[Soul Surfer]

2019 O line;

LT-Whitworth/Noteboom or 1st round draft pick

LG-All Pro Rodger Saffold/Noteboom/BlytheC/G/Demby/T/G

C-John Sullivan, borderline Pro Bowler

RG- Noteboom/Jamon Brown/Blythe G/C

RT- Rob Havenstein borderline Pro Bowler

I'm starting to think that the Fisher Boudreau nightmare is actually over.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Well, I’m a JB fan.

But if I had to choose between extending JB or Saffold, it’s a no brainer.

It’s Saffold every single time. Besides, I think Saffold has another 3-4 Pro Bowl level years in him AND he might sign a Ram friendly 3rd contract extension.

If so, that would be a bargain that would be very hard to pass up.

At left guard, replacing an All-Pro (Saffold) with a Blythe, Demby or Noteboom could potentially be a bigger drop off then replacing a Jamon Brown with a Noteboom or Demby.
IMO.

 

[BonifayRam]

This was on my wishlist for the Rams to do now. Very shrewd move by the front office. Rob's a guy who works hard, stays healthy, and has made big strides under this staff. He is in for a big season IMO and getting him now not only helps us down the road on cost but also means they don't need to potentially find bookend tackles in one offseason.

Now with Boom looking like a potential starter down the road and possibly Allen/Demby too things look so much better for this line. What a damn relief.

You may have desired this even more than me & I know I was all in for making this OT the #1 UFA this upcoming free agency period. We both should have this look on our faces....:cheers:. Great decision made here! You know Goff & Gurley are well pleased with this too.

 

[WestCoastRam]

My guess is the left side of the line will look like some combination of Notebroom-Saffold or Whitworth-Notebroom next year.

 

[Karate61]

Some of you have a low view of Brown. i watch a lot of film on the Oline and he is a solid RG. In fact his power and quickness are top shelf for a guard in the run game. once he got the mental side figured out he was reallly solid. As a pass protector, he is also solid, only lacking in ability to lock on till the whistle. for the first 3 seconds he is money.

Having said that, he may be odd man out as we have a lot of options at guard right now and Saffold still has to get paid next year.

I'm with you and love me some Brown. Him and Havenstein just crushed defenders on runs to the right all season last year. Jerome is a keeper in my book, if doable.

 

[Memento]

I'd keep Jamon just for his singing talent.

 

[So Ram]

Give me McVay, Snead & Demoff over any 3 humans on the same NFL team that operate and run their franchises.

These 3 wise men are the Golden Pyramid that gives us Rams fans hope for long term stability at the highest level in professional football. :yess:

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Look at those 2 players we just traded for ? #21,#22
& #79 we just signed playing with our future center #55

 

[SteveBrown]

Some of you have a low view of Brown. i watch a lot of film on the Oline and he is a solid RG. In fact his power and quickness are top shelf for a guard in the run game. once he got the mental side figured out he was reallly solid. As a pass protector, he is also solid, only lacking in ability to lock on till the whistle. for the first 3 seconds he is money.

Having said that, he may be odd man out as we have a lot of options at guard right now and Saffold still has to get paid next year.

I think this analysis of Brown is the closest to accurate I have ever seen. He has talent, knows how to use it, and is a bit lazy.

 

[SteveBrown]

I compared him to Jon Runyan and it seems to be tracking that way so far. Bonus is he isn't dirty like Runyan, but still has the necessary mean streak in the run game. Pleasantly surprised and loving the numbers. The way the front office has elevated and stabilized the offense is remarkable.

WOW, I wrote the same thing on another board. RUnyan is the 'typical' NFL RT that I love! Always hated him bec he was tough, smart, good....but Leonard Little did beat him in the NFCC in 2001, I believe....so did Kevin Carter in the super bowl....ya, Rob is not as tenacious.....but Runyan was the MOST tenacious there was.

 

[JRobinson]

Agree.

You two must have listened to the latest Rampage Radio Podcast.

 

[Psycho_X]