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I tend to agree with this. I'm of the mindset that inhaling anything other than air is probably bad for you, and depending on where you live even the air is bad for you. Which is why I've always preferred edibles, that and I feel is has a better overall affect.
That no longer exists, and hasn't for some time. Toradol injections have been used pregame and even during a game to kill pain since 1994, and before that cortisone injections were used, and they both have documented side effects.As for sport, I want to see players performing at their highest level without drugs...but that's just me.
That no longer exists, and hasn't for some time. Toradol injections have been used pregame and even during a game to kill pain since 1994, and before that cortisone injections were used, and they both have documented side effects.
Yea I disagree that all is known about long term usage of marijuana. The below study has a component that will study usage/exposure to substances, which include: ialcohol, marijuana, nicotine, caffeine. they obviously don't think it is nonsense, Mojo.This notion that there are still long term usage marijuana side effects still undiscovered via research is nonsense. Same goes for alcohol.
Things like vaping and about a zillion other synthetic drugs advertised every 30 minutes on television? Yeah the jury is still out on those.
That's cool. We disagree. I say it's nonsense. It's been funneled through generation after generation of humans and the physical and mental effects are in the books. Unless we're talking about marijuana effects on an evolutionary scale...there aren't going to be any shocking new discoveries there in terms of bodily harm.Yea I disagree that all is known about long term usage of marijuana. The below study has a component that will study usage/exposure to substances, which include: ialcohol, marijuana, nicotine, caffeine. they obviously don't think it is nonsense, Mojo.
Hopefully this season we'll all have something to look forward to past October.Maybe..but then why pretend anymore, if so? Lets go full steroid in the NFL and I can have my Sunday's free in October.
That's not really what I mean. I'm talking strictly for NFL purposes. As someone said, the NFL has a right to ban any substance they want. However, I believe players should be able to get prescriptions for it and that way the NFL can't punish them. But if they don't have one and are still using, they can come down with the hammer anyway they want.Really ? So I sat in my house and smoked a joint and now I deserve to be punished ? Go to jail ? Affecting my ability to gain employment and support my family ? Affecting my ability to travel and vacation with my family ? Seems pretty cruel to me.
I totally support punishment if somebody gets behind the wheel and hurts somebody while they are impaired but otherwise the punitive approach is cruel and unnecessary.
That's not really what I mean. I'm talking strictly for NFL purposes. As someone said, the NFL has a right to ban any substance they want. However, I believe players should be able to get prescriptions for it and that way the NFL can't punish them. But if they don't have one and are still using, they can come down with the hammer anyway they want.
Another stipulation is during the offseason players should be able to do whatever they want. I don't think it's fair that they get punished during their time off. The NFL is a different breed. As long as they aren't getting arrested and all that, anything goes. But as soon as OTAs start, guys better be clean and ready to go.
While I do agree, I doubt the NFL would ever think that way. When it comes to these things I try to think rationally but also in a way the NFL would. And I doubt they ever relinquish punishments on weed.Thanks for clarifying, I didn't realize you were strictly talking within the NFL confines. I still think it would be overley harsh to punish players for smoking weed in the evenings after work by suspending them and costing them millions of dollars. If I was a coach I'd be far more opposed to my players drinking after work. There's a very real possibility of waking up with a debilitating hangover which is going to negatively affect practice participation and energy levels, concentration, etc
But even now at age 53 (Today's my birthday)
but as someone who consumed near 100 tabs from my late teens to mid-20's, I never had a bad experience.
Marijuana is not even close to being a PED.
OK...what makes a ped...performance enhancing drug...Pot is known to increase the ability to concentrate and focus...Yeah...for most...you guys out there that get loopy, well, your brain must be wired differently. LOL...So, if I guy has a enhanced focus, how does that help in football? Obviously it helps with training...and it probably helps in game, during crunch time. Enhances focus...There are some studies that show it also increases endurance too. Focus and endurance...in one drug. Damn that weed must be good! Don't make me put links in here...So...it is a PED.I can't believe that some people are actually arguing that marijuana is a PED.
My original point...see, I'm getting old...kinda like a square...and trust me, I could give a fuck what someone does in their home...in there house...I hate being that guy. But if we are to look out for those that can't protect themselves, we need to stay on unregulated drugs. Until all the risks, if possible, can be known. I already got a problem with these kids of today...weirdos...clueless lot. Hell, half of the country just voted for a pot-head...and look where he's headed. Lying every week...plotting with Russia...grabbing pussy...well, I kinda liked that part of him....LOLOLOL....Naw, anything to keep kids from thinking smoking pot is cool...we need to try...the number of kids under 16 that smoke weed in LA is alarming...and just from their conversations, they're not ready to mess up their minds just yet....Adolescence is a period of dramatic brain development in which children are exposed to all sorts of experiences. Yet, our understanding of precisely how these experiences interact with each other and a child’s biology to affect brain development and, ultimately, social, behavioral, health, and other outcomes, is still incomplete"
My problem is....as a guy hitting 50....I look at TV...I look at the kids listening to music...And I see the NFL as a league that is looked up to...and emulated. We need to remain a little...stringent on when we allow its use. At least for the kids. Cause it's getting outta control.
The league tells guys when they'll be tested. Anyone that can't pass that has a problem...And guys that fail these tests, then have troubles later, should be fined. No suspensions...just increasing fines. Pretty sure they'd figure it out...and I'm talking huge fines too.
So...naw, pot shouldn't be "legal" or allowed in the pros....
OK...what makes a ped...performance enhancing drug...Pot is known to increase the ability to concentrate and focus...Yeah...for most...you guys out there that get loopy, well, your brain must be wired differently. LOL...So, if I guy has a enhanced focus, how does that help in football? Obviously it helps with training...and it probably helps in game, during crunch time. Enhances focus...There are some studies that show it also increases endurance too. Focus and endurance...in one drug. Damn that weed must be good! Don't make me put links in here...So...it is a PED.
Cocaine also enhances focus....it's a stimulant and also increases endurance....Wow...sounds like that good ass pot up there! They built pyramids on coca leaves...
Now heroin is a drug I DON'T know a lot about. Sue me...Only met a few users in my life out in LA...Well, it's not the type of high that's cool and people talk about...I doubt it's used around many in athletics. I do know...opioid type of drugs are prevalent in pain management in every sport.
My original point...see, I'm getting old...kinda like a square...and trust me, I could give a freak what someone does in their home...in there house...I hate being that guy. But if we are to look out for those that can't protect themselves, we need to stay on unregulated drugs. Until all the risks, if possible, can be known. I already got a problem with these kids of today...weirdos...clueless lot. Hell, half of the country just voted for a pot-head...and look where he's headed. Lying every week...plotting with Russia...grabbing wuss...well, I kinda liked that part of him....LOLOLOL....Naw, anything to keep kids from thinking smoking pot is cool...we need to try...the number of kids under 16 that smoke weed in LA is alarming...and just from their conversations, they're not ready to mess up their minds just yet....
C'mon Now we all know pain management is B.S. I understand you may be in the minority but most use it to get stoned.
Addiction affects behavior.
From everything I have read.There is no such thing as physical addiction to Marijuana.I'm actually not in the minority (I live in Missouri, where it's still banned), but granted, if I could use marijuana over painkillers, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm pretty sure that the players would as well.
It's not more addictive than painkillers and other opiods. I don't understand why the NFL doesn't choose the lesser evil.