POLL: Just want to check our Sloman Pulse

[Mister Sin]

I have zero confidence in him. Zero.

 

[BC Ramfan]

I have zero confidence in him. Zero.

The thing that gets me about Sloman is he is so small.
Easier for bigger guys to have "relaxed" power.
Still don't see why they didn't go for Hiram HiraYahoo.
Proven veteran, pressure tested.
Teams have been a major weakness this year (except Hekker).
Bonamego not inspiring confidence.

BC

 

[OldSchool]

Glad I'm not trying to convince anyone about Sloman.

This is what's funny, nobody is trying to convince somebody else about Sloman being good. Most of us that aren't talking about cutting the guy are simply endorsing patience with a rookie. Also you look around at the state of kicking in the NFL and there aren't many options. Quite honestly kickers in the NFL are in worse shape than the OLine is league wide.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah his kickoffs and leg strength are just fine, not sure where the complaints on kickoffs are coming from. Oh well we have seen McVay's response to a question about Sloman now.

Coach speak my man. If you want to know what McVay thinks, look no further than when/where he puts him on the field to attempt field goals. McVay is always beneficial to the player in his comments. For now the fact that Sloman still has a job is important, but we need to wait for situations that will tell us what Coach is really thinking.

For me... Once I see him drill some 45+ field goals I'll feel a lot better.

 

[OldSchool]

Coach speak my man. If you want to know what McVay thinks, look no further than when/where he puts him on the field to attempt field goals. McVay is always beneficial to the player in his comments. For now the fact that Sloman still has a job is important, but we need to wait for situations that will tell us what Coach is really thinking.

For me... Once I see him drill some 45+ field goals I'll feel a lot better.

Curious but how many 4th downs have we gone for when it wasn't late in the game and we needed a score? How many punts have we had Hekker do inside the opponents side of the field? I seem to remember that this year was the first time Hekker ever had a game where he didn't punt at all and one game with a single punt. The Hekker usage and the fact we've gone for a 4th down only 1 time each game doesn't really suggest a fear of using him, more a lack of opportunity.

Again some of you are taking the wrong tone from the rest of us. Patience is what's being preached not Sloman's greatness. Sorry if that isn't coming across in this discussion.

 

[RhodyRams]

anyone catch the game last night?

Chargers clanked the game winner AND missed a PAT



some people act as if Sloman is the only kicker to miss a PAT

 

[OldSchool]

anyone catch the game last night?

Chargers clanked the game winner AND missed a PAT



some people act as if Sloman is the only kicker to miss a PAT

A veteran kicker missed it no less. One who is 83% on his career for FG's and has gotten better each year too.

 

[nighttrain]

A veteran kicker missed it no less. One who is 83% on his career for FG's and has gotten better each year too.

it happens
train

 

[RhodyRams]

A veteran kicker missed it no less. One who is 83% on his career for FG's and has gotten better each year too.

In a dome also

 

[Merlin]

Curious but how many 4th downs have we gone for when it wasn't late in the game and we needed a score? How many punts have we had Hekker do inside the opponents side of the field? I seem to remember that this year was the first time Hekker ever had a game where he didn't punt at all and one game with a single punt. The Hekker usage and the fact we've gone for a 4th down only 1 time each game doesn't really suggest a fear of using him, more a lack of opportunity.

Again some of you are taking the wrong tone from the rest of us. Patience is what's being preached not Sloman's greatness. Sorry if that isn't coming across in this discussion.

Like I said I need to see more of him to allay my concerns. But I'm also not shitting all over other people's opinions here.

It's fair to want to see more of him, and him hitting some 45 or longer kicks to get a good feel for him. We don't know enough yet.

It's also fair to question Bonamego. Our special teams are shitty. He had to have Kupp back there which strikes me as a fear decision when he had Web last season, and it's a fear decision that could affect the offense if Kupp gets hurt. And if the concerns become reality with Sloman total it all up and you have a poor ST coach hire.

I'm amazed at how well this team has come together but one area that stinks across the board has been teams. So maybe let folks get shit off their chest a bit my man. You don't have to control them, let them fire off.

 

[OldSchool]

Like I said I need to see more of him to allay my concerns. But I'm also not shitting all over other people's opinions here.

The only opinion I've done anything that could be considered shitting on is the one claiming McVay chose him because they share an alma mater. Anybody else my stance and most everybody else's is to give the kid a chance. Very very few good kickers in NFL history have been great from their very first kick. Our previous kicker that everybody was pissed off we let go of certainly wasn't great from day one. He was as bad as Sloman, got better for a year then regressed for another couple of years during which he was signed to a second contract and again people questioned Snead's sanity. It is kind of funny that things like GZ's past and parallels to current players keep popping up where we weren't patient with GZ he became very good to great, then his successor it seems we're again starting out with a lack of patience. We'll see how Sloman turns out (I think those 6 words are the most common 6 I've said in this thread btw).

 

[LARams_1963]

As of right now, I don't trust Samuel for anything over 50 yds during the game and I have absolutely no idea how he will perform in the event of a game winning FG from anywhere on the field. He's a rookie, time will tell. Let's just pray he doesn't cost us a crucial or Playoff game.

 

[OldSchool]

As of right now, I don't trust Samuel for anything over 50 yds during the game and I have absolutely no idea how he will perform in the event of a game winning FG from anywhere on the field. He's a rookie, time will tell. Let's just pray he doesn't cost us a crucial or Playoff game.

Curious, and I'm not harping on or trying to belittle your opinion or anybody elses, but why the 50 yards? The one he tried over 50 had more than enough leg it just blew left in the wind.

 

[Snaz]

I still think Lirim was the more logical decision. Waiting on Sloman to prove me wrong

 

[OldSchool]

I still think Lirim was the more logical decision. Waiting on Sloman to prove me wrong

Based on what per the bolded?

 

[nighttrain]

I still think Lirim was the more logical decision. Waiting on Sloman to prove me wrong

McVay all of a sudden got stupid ?
Don't think so
train

 

[SteezyEndo]

Just glad our RZ offense has gotten better to where we can score 6 instead of settling for less.

 

[LARams_1963]

Curious, and I'm not harping on or trying to belittle your opinion or anybody elses, but why the 50 yards? The one he tried over 50 had more than enough leg it just blew left in the wind.

Yeah, being a rookie with a very small body of work it's tough to tell. That being said I remember him having some struggles in the scrimmages at longer distances. As far as the 53 yd attempt in Buffalo compensating for the wind is something that a kicker needs to do. You're right though, he had enough leg.......on that kick. Will he on the next one? We will find out, I sure hope so.

 

[JKBOGEN]

I don't see what his upside is at this point? He's shown he basically doesn't have any one trait that wow's you. He's not Legatron. He is going to cost you games though if you stick with him

 

[dieterbrock]

I don't see what his upside is at this point? He's shown he basically doesn't have any one trait that wow's you. He's not Legatron. He is going to cost you games though if you stick with him

Right, he's not Legatron.
Sloman costs half as much, has missed the same amount of XP as Z and is better at kicking off for touchback