Pettis, it's blatantly obvious...

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Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
 
Yeah - put me in your camp on this. I just don't get the Pettis attraction.
 
Maybe they were "showcasing" him to maybe draw some trade interest?

Then of course teams got to see what they arent missing....
 
I think Pettis is becoming frustrated. I've noticed after some plays that the ball wasn't thrown his way or he didn't come up with the catch, he just gets this look almost like he's thinking "Omg Sam.. are you fucking kidding me". Maybe I'm reading too far into it but his body language recently has showed some frustration.

And his twitter post:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Austin_Pettis/status/368950683707252736[/tweet]

Have any of you guys noticed this?
 
max said:
Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
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Are you talking about the throw where he got grabbed?
 
I think Pettis is best used in red zone and 3rd down passing situations. He should not be an every down WR IMO. He CAN be an effective specialist however.
 
F. Mulder said:
I think Pettis is best used in red zone and 3rd down passing situations. He should not be an every down WR IMO. He CAN be an effective specialist however.
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I agree. I think Pettis showed up in the redzone and 3rd down last year.
 
max said:
Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
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There's already something wrong with Quick. He was taken with the first pick in the 2nd round and he still can't play with the 1's. They can't even trust him enough to play with the 1's in pre-season. Pre-season. Something is wrong already.
 
DR RAM said:
max said:
Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
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Are you talking about the throw where he got grabbed?
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No. I'm talking about the one where Dierdorf said DRC had great coverage on Pettis and not illegally. Pettis runs like he is being held so that's really more the problem.
 
V3 said:
max said:
Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
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There's already something wrong with Quick. He was taken with the first pick in the 2nd round and he still can't play with the 1's. They can't even trust him enough to play with the 1's in pre-season. Pre-season. Something is wrong already.
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Yeah, not being trusted in preseason, is like not being trusted with monopoly money.
 
max said:
Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
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I think what they are doing is they want Quick to take the job there not just going to give it to him. Hopefully he gets a chance to prove it tomorrow
 
max said:
DR RAM said:
max said:
Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
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Are you talking about the throw where he got grabbed?
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No. I'm talking about the one where Dierdorf said DRC had great coverage on Pettis and not illegally. Pettis runs like he is being held so that's really more the problem.
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Yeah, Max, I totally agree on that play. I don't know why nobody else has mentioned it, but he turned the wrong way on the post/corner, or flag route, or that would have been a touchdown. He is a good mentor for the young receivers, and he does have his uses, but deep routes never seem to work with him.
 
DR RAM said:
max said:
DR RAM said:
max said:
Rewatching the deep ball to Pettis a the end of the first half, I just shake my head. Pettis has zero acceleration and just cannot separate. It was a great deep ball by Bradford, and Pettis actually slows down, taking short steps in preparation to trying to leap for the ball, while the ball sails over him and the defender who is right on him. It's just ugly to watch.

I have no idea what Fisher's thought process is with having Pettis out there running these routes. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that Pettis is just a short yardage plodder. His limit is around 10-12 yards. That's not what you want in a WR2. If Pettis is still starting by mid-season, something is really wrong with Quick.
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Are you talking about the throw where he got grabbed?
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No. I'm talking about the one where Dierdorf said DRC had great coverage on Pettis and not illegally. Pettis runs like he is being held so that's really more the problem.
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Yeah, Max, I totally agree on that play. I don't know why nobody else has mentioned it, but he turned the wrong way on the post/corner, or flag route, or that would have been a touchdown. He is a good mentor for the young receivers, and he does have his uses, but deep routes never seem to work with him.
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I was going to mention that play too, but I didn't want to barf again.

My guess on the Quick - Pettis competition is that the Rams trust Quick enough now but Fisher doesn't want to throw Quick in with the ones and have him mess up and let it get in his head. Plus, Pettis has worked hard and deserves every last opportunity before Quick is totally ready. Not saying I think that way, but I think maybe Fisher does.

I agree with Venturi who says get Quick in there now, if not sooner.
 
Historically, Fisher and Schottenheimer don't exactly have the best track record when it comes to WR's. Snead was with Atlanta but I'm not sure how involved he was in the receivers they acquired.

I've certainly always hoped the Rams would wind up with what Atlanta has rather than what the Titans and/or Jets had.
 
Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.
 
moklerman said:
Historically, Fisher and Schottenheimer don't exactly have the best track record when it comes to WR's. Snead was with Atlanta but I'm not sure how involved he was in the receivers they acquired.

I've certainly always hoped the Rams would wind up with what Atlanta has rather than what the Titans and/or Jets had.
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I know Snead was a big part of trading up to get Julio Jones. I was pissed because I wanted the Rams to get him haha.

But I've never wanted a player so bad like I wanted Tavon Austin and Fisher, Schotty, and Snead delivered and also drafted Chris Givens, grabbed Cook, etc. so I'm pleased thus far in their decisions on the playmakers. Just hoping we get the production and I believe we finally will.
 
I don't understand all the concern about Pettis' running ability. It's like what Dizzy Dean said about a certain Cardinal SS: "He runs real hard but just doesn't cover much distance in that time." Same with Pettis-he runs real hard but just doesn't get any separation.

If you don't have speed, you need quickness. If you don't have either one of those you need route running or shake and bake. If you don't have those either, you are sit down in the zone guy, jumper or crosser. He's fine as a third down/red zone radius catcher which has value.
 
Well here it goes... I'm not big on Pettis.

Yup I said it, I kinda want to see Givens, Tavon, Quick or Bailey @ 3.
 
Angry Ram said:
Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.
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It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.
 
V3 said:
Angry Ram said:
Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.
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It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.
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The guy can play. He can at least score touchdowns and seems to be reliable in the redzone. He may never be Isaac Bruce, but he's not a bad receiver
 
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