Pettis, it's blatantly obvious...

[LesBaker]

Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.

It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.

The guy can play. He can at least score touchdowns and seems to be reliable in the redzone. He may never be Isaac Bruce, but he's not a bad receiver

I think that about sums it up. He's a decent guy to have but I think you have to manage expectations with him. He's not your star WR type, he's a grinder type and that's pretty much that. It's OK with me I think there is enough other talent that he isn't going to hurt anything.

 

[max]

Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.

It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.

The guy can play. He can at least score touchdowns and seems to be reliable in the redzone. He may never be Isaac Bruce, but he's not a bad receiver

I think that about sums it up. He's a decent guy to have but I think you have to manage expectations with him. He's not your star WR type, he's a grinder type and that's pretty much that. It's OK with me I think there is enough other talent that he isn't going to hurt anything.

It would be nice if you guys would say the guys name. I'm not sure who you are referring to.

 

[Faceplant]

Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.

It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.

The guy can play. He can at least score touchdowns and seems to be reliable in the redzone. He may never be Isaac Bruce, but he's not a bad receiver

I normally agree with you Broke, but I don't think we have seen enough of BQ to even say whether he is a bad or good WR. As far as TDs? He has 2. I cannot for the life of me fathom why Fisher is not giving BQ reps at this point. I can't imagine he is "hiding" him for the reg season, but who knows. We haven't seen much out of Austin thus far in the PS either. Some head scratchers for me this year, but I have to trust the Coach...until I have reason NOT to. Even then, what diff does it make, haha.

 

[brokeu91]

Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.

It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.

The guy can play. He can at least score touchdowns and seems to be reliable in the redzone. He may never be Isaac Bruce, but he's not a bad receiver

I normally agree with you Broke, but I don't think we have seen enough of BQ to even say whether he is a bad or good WR. As far as TDs? He has 2. I cannot for the life of me fathom why Fisher is not giving BQ reps at this point. I can't imagine he is "hiding" him for the reg season, but who knows. We haven't seen much out of Austin thus far in the PS either. Some head scratchers for me this year, but I have to trust the Coach...until I have reason NOT to. Even then, what diff does it make, haha.

I was actually talking about Pettis. I thought last year and still think that Quick would need one year just to get to rookie status, essentially having a redshirt year. He had very little coaching in college. This year I think he could be fairly good. I think next year is the year he makes the big jump.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I think Pettis is best used in red zone and 3rd down passing situations. He should not be an every down WR IMO. He CAN be an effective specialist however.

My take as well. He's got a spot on this team, just not in the role of #2 on the outside.

 

[EastRam]

Is Fisher trying to get like a 5th for Pettis?

 

[Selassie I]

Pettis is the most consistent between the 2 (BQ). That's why many feel good about him taking on 3rd down and red zone plays... you don't want to make mistakes in those situations. Coaches are going to go with the best odds (consistency gives the best chance) in the most crucial situations. Pettis brings that right now.

BQ will be used in these same situations though. He just hasn't attained the same consistency level at this early point in his NFL career. It's common for WRs to take 3 years to develop into an NFL caliber WEAPON at the position. I'm not giving up on BQ at this stage of his young career. I expect him to make plays and make mistakes. Part of the process.

I'm of the opinion that we'll all be happy with each of them during the course of the season. Hopefully BQ's progression will impress as the year moves along. In the meantime,,, it's nice to have what Pettis DOES bring to the table.

 

[Stranger]

I will not lose any sleep if we discard Pettis, and I was one of the ones that had high hopes for him in the offseason.

 

[-X-]

I'm not gonna rail on Pettis because I know he has the potential to make us all look like idiots for judging him prematurely. So I'll just remain silent on the issue and let it play out.

Right on the fence, baby. Right on the fence.

 

[V3]

Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.

It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.

The guy can play. He can at least score touchdowns and seems to be reliable in the redzone. He may never be Isaac Bruce, but he's not a bad receiver

I normally agree with you Broke, but I don't think we have seen enough of BQ to even say whether he is a bad or good WR. As far as TDs? He has 2. I cannot for the life of me fathom why Fisher is not giving BQ reps at this point. I can't imagine he is "hiding" him for the reg season, but who knows. We haven't seen much out of Austin thus far in the PS either. Some head scratchers for me this year, but I have to trust the Coach...until I have reason NOT to. Even then, what diff does it make, haha.

I was actually talking about Pettis. I thought last year and still think that Quick would need one year just to get to rookie status, essentially having a redshirt year. He had very little coaching in college. This year I think he could be fairly good. I think next year is the year he makes the big jump.

I was talking about Quick. I think Pettis can be used for the red zone and maybe some 3rd down situations and that's about it. Quick is beyond frustrating to me. He was a very high pick and he's flirting with bust status in my book. Snead and Fisher love to compare him to Vincent Jackson but Jackson had better numbers and was taken much later in the draft. If he isn't playing in the first game, the clock will start on Quick in my book. He should be playing by now. At the very least he should have a set of plays that he can run. I'm holding off till the first game to see what happens but after that, if he isn't contributing, I'm writing him off as a bad pick. There's no excuse to take a player, that takes this long to develop and not even be able to contribute, that high in the draft.

 

[LesBaker]

Austin Pettis is the most experienced guy out there that's why he gets to start.

Brian Quick does have more raw talent and needs to develop quickly (pun intended) to be a possible factor on any given pass play.

It's been over a year. "Develop quickly" has come and gone by now. At this point, they're just hoping he can even play at some point.

The guy can play. He can at least score touchdowns and seems to be reliable in the redzone. He may never be Isaac Bruce, but he's not a bad receiver

I think that about sums it up. He's a decent guy to have but I think you have to manage expectations with him. He's not your star WR type, he's a grinder type and that's pretty much that. It's OK with me I think there is enough other talent that he isn't going to hurt anything.

It would be nice if you guys would say the guys name. I'm not sure who you are referring to.

Pettis is who I was talking about. If memory serves you said this about him since very early on. I'm just getting caught up lol.

 

[jsimcox]

I'm not gonna rail on Pettis because I know he has the potential to make us all look like idiots for judging him prematurely. So I'll just remain silent on the issue and let it play out.

Right on the fence, baby. Right on the fence.

How apolorealist of you... :shifty: :sly:

I am of the opinion that he(Pettis) could be a good backup in the slot, not fast, but shifty enough to get the job done if short spaces.
I don't think he will ever be a true threat on the outside, primarily due to his apparent inability to get seperation out there. I think he is our Gibson for this season, while we wait for Quick to develop, and that's not necesarily a bad thing, especially given the versatility he offers of playing all 3 WR spots.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I was talking about Quick. I think Pettis can be used for the red zone and maybe some 3rd down situations and that's about it. Quick is beyond frustrating to me. He was a very high pick and he's flirting with bust status in my book. Snead and Fisher love to compare him to Vincent Jackson but Jackson had better numbers and was taken much later in the draft. If he isn't playing in the first game, the clock will start on Quick in my book. He should be playing by now. At the very least he should have a set of plays that he can run. I'm holding off till the first game to see what happens but after that, if he isn't contributing, I'm writing him off as a bad pick. There's no excuse to take a player, that takes this long to develop and not even be able to contribute, that high in the draft.

Whoa there!

Rookie numbers:

Vincent Jackson: 3 catches, 59 yds, 0 tds
Brian Quick: 11 catches, 156 yds, 2 tds

Or are you talking about combine numbers or some other numbers?

I understand getting worried about Quick compared to other top draft picks... but NO WAY am I going to paint this rough talent with the same brush as other WR's coming out of college.

We heard it from day 1; He's a project. Well... its his 2nd preseason. That ain't shit.

 

[max]

Pettis is who I was talking about. If memory serves you said this about him since very early on. I'm just getting caught up lol.

It was confirmed for me last year when I sat in the dome and watched the Packers DBs laugh at him trying to get separation. He may have the ability to make some catches outside of his body, but he is such a plodding WR that he can't ever be counted on to get separation in a critical situation even in short distances.

Maybe he can be a good coach.

I was all over Gibson last year, and I actually got booted for it. But I will tell it like it is, Gibson is a jag. When Marshall Faulk called the Rams WRs bums, Gibson was the poster bum. And Pettis is in the same category.

 

[max]

I was talking about Quick. I think Pettis can be used for the red zone and maybe some 3rd down situations and that's about it. Quick is beyond frustrating to me. He was a very high pick and he's flirting with bust status in my book. Snead and Fisher love to compare him to Vincent Jackson but Jackson had better numbers and was taken much later in the draft. If he isn't playing in the first game, the clock will start on Quick in my book. He should be playing by now. At the very least he should have a set of plays that he can run. I'm holding off till the first game to see what happens but after that, if he isn't contributing, I'm writing him off as a bad pick. There's no excuse to take a player, that takes this long to develop and not even be able to contribute, that high in the draft.

Whoa there!

Rookie numbers:

Vincent Jackson: 3 catches, 59 yds, 0 tds
Brian Quick: 11 catches, 156 yds, 2 tds

Or are you talking about combine numbers or some other numbers?

I understand getting worried about Quick compared to other top draft picks... but NO WAY am I going to paint this rough talent with the same brush as other WR's coming out of college.

We heard it from day 1; He's a project. Well... its his 2nd preseason. That ain't shyte.

That's a hopeful post. I agree.

 

[LesBaker]

Pettis is who I was talking about. If memory serves you said this about him since very early on. I'm just getting caught up lol.

It was confirmed for me last year when I sat in the dome and watched the Packers DBs laugh at him trying to get separation. He may have the ability to make some catches outside of his body, but he is such a plodding WR that he can't ever be counted on to get separation in a critical situation even in short distances.

Maybe he can be a good coach.

I was all over Gibson last year, and I actually got booted for it. But I will tell it like it is, Gibson is a jag. When Marshall Faulk called the Rams WRs bums, Gibson was the poster bum. And Pettis is in the same category.

I won't be that harsh, he isn't a bum. He isn't a really good WR either of course, he seems to be just another journeyman type. Sometimes posters get a little caught up in the homerism and I think his height plays a role in people thinking he can be really good when he is quite possibly just another average WR.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I was talking about Quick. I think Pettis can be used for the red zone and maybe some 3rd down situations and that's about it. Quick is beyond frustrating to me. He was a very high pick and he's flirting with bust status in my book. Snead and Fisher love to compare him to Vincent Jackson but Jackson had better numbers and was taken much later in the draft. If he isn't playing in the first game, the clock will start on Quick in my book. He should be playing by now. At the very least he should have a set of plays that he can run. I'm holding off till the first game to see what happens but after that, if he isn't contributing, I'm writing him off as a bad pick. There's no excuse to take a player, that takes this long to develop and not even be able to contribute, that high in the draft.

Whoa there!

Rookie numbers:

Vincent Jackson: 3 catches, 59 yds, 0 tds
Brian Quick: 11 catches, 156 yds, 2 tds

Or are you talking about combine numbers or some other numbers?

I understand getting worried about Quick compared to other top draft picks... but NO WAY am I going to paint this rough talent with the same brush as other WR's coming out of college.

We heard it from day 1; He's a project. Well... its his 2nd preseason. That ain't shyte.

Though not taken at the top of the round, he was also a 2nd round pick who only started 7 games during his second season.

 

[RamFan503]

I was talking about Quick. I think Pettis can be used for the red zone and maybe some 3rd down situations and that's about it. Quick is beyond frustrating to me. He was a very high pick and he's flirting with bust status in my book. Snead and Fisher love to compare him to Vincent Jackson but Jackson had better numbers and was taken much later in the draft. If he isn't playing in the first game, the clock will start on Quick in my book. He should be playing by now. At the very least he should have a set of plays that he can run. I'm holding off till the first game to see what happens but after that, if he isn't contributing, I'm writing him off as a bad pick. There's no excuse to take a player, that takes this long to develop and not even be able to contribute, that high in the draft.

Whoa there!

Rookie numbers:

Vincent Jackson: 3 catches, 59 yds, 0 tds
Brian Quick: 11 catches, 156 yds, 2 tds

Or are you talking about combine numbers or some other numbers?

I understand getting worried about Quick compared to other top draft picks... but NO WAY am I going to paint this rough talent with the same brush as other WR's coming out of college.

We heard it from day 1; He's a project. Well... its his 2nd preseason. That ain't shyte.

Though not taken at the top of the round, he was also a 2nd round pick who only started 7 games during his second season.

Thanks guys. A little reality check here. We ALL would like to see BQ light it up but calling him a bust if he doesn't by the start of his second season is a little harsh. I realize it could be right and he may never pan out. But I like the flashes I've seen and think he is going to be a player. I also suspect we are playing Pettis to see if there is any chance he will work out. I have nothing to go on with this but I think the coaches actually like BQ's upside and would rather play him in situations and get him some shots at big plays. Pettis on the other hand is either going to be a guy we see a fair amount or he just doesn't cut it at all.

Now in fairness to Pettis, we haven't exactly put our playbook out there so that we can start creating mismatches. Once we do that, we may see more open looks for the guy. We know he can catch. If the DBs are being pulled back, he is likely to be able to sit down in the zone for that check down or 8 yard - move the sticks pass.

 

[albefree69]

RamFan503 seeing where he fits in:
Now in fairness to Pettis, we haven't exactly put our playbook out there so that we can start creating mismatches. Once we do that, we may see more open looks for the guy. We know he can catch. If the DBs are being pulled back, he is likely to be able to sit down in the zone for that check down or 8 yard - move the sticks pass.

I'm down with that.

 

[V3]

I was talking about Quick. I think Pettis can be used for the red zone and maybe some 3rd down situations and that's about it. Quick is beyond frustrating to me. He was a very high pick and he's flirting with bust status in my book. Snead and Fisher love to compare him to Vincent Jackson but Jackson had better numbers and was taken much later in the draft. If he isn't playing in the first game, the clock will start on Quick in my book. He should be playing by now. At the very least he should have a set of plays that he can run. I'm holding off till the first game to see what happens but after that, if he isn't contributing, I'm writing him off as a bad pick. There's no excuse to take a player, that takes this long to develop and not even be able to contribute, that high in the draft.

Whoa there!

Rookie numbers:

Vincent Jackson: 3 catches, 59 yds, 0 tds
Brian Quick: 11 catches, 156 yds, 2 tds

Or are you talking about combine numbers or some other numbers?

I understand getting worried about Quick compared to other top draft picks... but NO WAY am I going to paint this rough talent with the same brush as other WR's coming out of college.

We heard it from day 1; He's a project. Well... its his 2nd preseason. That ain't shyte.

I was talking about his college stats and combine numbers. Jackson was faster, bigger, quicker, and could jump higher AND he had much better game stats. They also took him almost a full round later. Quick wasn't as good of a prospect yet the Rams took him well before the Chargers took their "project" WR.

Quick is a project. I get it. Well, the project year was last year. He needs to start producing. That means getting on the field. Also, I don't like taking MAJOR projects with the first pick in the 2nd round. I'm to my last ounce of patience with him.