Petition to Replace Vinovitch with a Different Ref
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Ok, you guys know, he didn't mark the ball and aren't the video reviews done by the league office?
BonifayRam
Legend
I don't believe so. If they were, why would the ref be looking at the video replays?
I like Rams
Hall of Fame
If you don't think he's a problem that's great for you, it would be nice to not be worried. The rest of us see what we see and I'm not sure why those who don't see it care what we think?
I dont like it. Nothing to be gained except to give him more resolve to not like us and in the chance that he just happened to be on the field when we played like shit, maybe give him a reason to resent us. IDK, it doesn't make us look to good.
If they do replace him we'll probably get Boger.
I'll take it. Boger isn't the most competent, but he seems to distribute his incompetence evenly and within statistical norms. What Vinovitch has done is way beyond any type of statistical norm.
Exactly. Given our composite record since 2012, if Vinovitch-Rams games were within that norm we'd be 4-4 with him as ref. Since the sample size is smaller, you could easily explain away 3-5 and maybe even 2-6. But 0-8 is way beyond the statistical norm, as is the fact that we have been assessed more penalty yards than our opponents in every one of those games.
Signed. Shared.
And a separate email sent to Demoff so he can subtly share this in the booth with Stan, et al. Perception is reality, and this doesn't pass the eye test. This smells of conveniently lost walkthrough tapes.
And a separate email sent to Demoff so he can subtly share this in the booth with Stan, et al. Perception is reality, and this doesn't pass the eye test. This smells of conveniently lost walkthrough tapes.
Signed and commented. Wish it would make difference, but it won't. Thanks for telling us about it jrry32
Dieter the Brock
Fourth responder
Apparently, it is a combination. The on field official reviews the play on tablet and consults with the league office. Unfortunately, calls like where the player went out of bounds or if forward progress was stopped will be determined more by the on field officiating crew:
The main problem is that the initial call will not be reversed by the league office without first consulting with the ref and what he saw as the circumstances that led to the forward progress being stopped or reached. And even then, there has to be conclusive evidence that over rules what the Ref says he saw. In the case of Hekker, everyone EXCEPT the officials saw it as a first down. I'm not sure what Vinobitch used as his argument for the call but the former vice president of officiating (title?) on the broadcast even said that it was a first down.
We've seen other calls in other games not overturned by the replay officials when it seemed pretty obvious the call was wrong. It appears to me that the league office is reluctant to over rule an on field official if he still disagrees.
“I have never had a situation where New York and I differed on what we were going to do, so it will still be seamless,” referee Brad Allen said. “The fact that in most circumstances, we’re not physically going to be under a hood, we are going to be looking at a tablet, it’s a little different.
