fearsomefour
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Packers fire McCarthy
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Elmgrovegnome
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Well, there are worse NFL head coaches. I don't think anyone can have work teams respect when the megastar QB doesn't respect them. Rodgers has become a coach killer IMO. His ego is out of control. Good luck in finding someone better Green Bay. There are a bunch of NFL teams that need good coaches and they aren't easy to find. It took the Rams 13 years to get one.
Elmgrovegnome
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My first thought too. Let him finish the year, start your search behind closed doors. No need to embarrass him. And WTF is Philbin going to improve. He can't lead a team. He had no control in Miami.
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Devils advocate here.
What else do they have besides Rodgers and Mathews?
The talent on that team isnt that good.
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Rodgers turned 35 yesterday. Unlike Rivers, Brees, Brady... he seems to be showing his age. Or maybe things soured w/McCarthy and that’s why he looks flat.
Not a lot of runway left for a coaching reboot, if he’s also slowing down more on the trajectory of Eli Manning (who also looks worn down a little).
Not a lot of runway left for a coaching reboot, if he’s also slowing down more on the trajectory of Eli Manning (who also looks worn down a little).
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Equal to or maybe even more talent than the Patriots or Seahawks. But they keep winning because they have the franchise qb.
Adi
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Needed to be done not all his fault because they lack talent but they hung on to those superbowl guys and it hurt the team . Another example of why the Patriots have been so good for so long, you have to get rid of players at the right time and not make it personal. PLUS ur team lost to the cardinals who surprisingly somehow have 3 wins .
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I agree, that him and Rodgers seemed continuely at odds I think was the nail in his coffin. Rodgers throws his teama under the bus, you didn't think hedh be loyal to his H.C.?
The H.C. that stood up to Farve and basically Packer nation for you!
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Aaron Rodgers got his money and because of that handcuffed the Packers unlike Brady & Brees for example. If Rodgers took less money, the Packers could have gotten an extra WR or a pass rusher. All in all the QB needs to be smart if he wants to win otherwise it's always going to be a balancing act.
Not sure who is on the Packers short list, but I still think they go offense, with the hope that they can compete immediately and I would not be shocked if the new Head Coach keeps current DC Mike Pettine.
Not sure who is on the Packers short list, but I still think they go offense, with the hope that they can compete immediately and I would not be shocked if the new Head Coach keeps current DC Mike Pettine.
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The Packers are going to be a shitshow because Aaron Rodgers apparently doesn't want to be in any system. So you might as well get a defensive-minded coach and just let AR run the offense because he doesn't seem to give a crap what anyone is telling him.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but if I had the choice between coaching the Browns or Packers, I pick the Browns 10 out of 10 times.
Maybe it's just the soured relationship, but when a player simply refuses to play within a scheme... and we saw that with Fisher's O in 2016... and you didn't see our players just freelancing... then that's the road to being a cancer.
Now, LET ME BE CLEAR, I'm NOT calling Aaron Rodgers a cancer... but he is on that road.
We'll know exactly how toxic Aaron Rodgers is come next season.
We already know he's more than a little off... he's good friends with Clay Matthews and he broke up with...
That's plain crazytown...
I can't believe I'm saying this, but if I had the choice between coaching the Browns or Packers, I pick the Browns 10 out of 10 times.
Maybe it's just the soured relationship, but when a player simply refuses to play within a scheme... and we saw that with Fisher's O in 2016... and you didn't see our players just freelancing... then that's the road to being a cancer.
Now, LET ME BE CLEAR, I'm NOT calling Aaron Rodgers a cancer... but he is on that road.
We'll know exactly how toxic Aaron Rodgers is come next season.
We already know he's more than a little off... he's good friends with Clay Matthews and he broke up with...
That's plain crazytown...
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Browns being Browns or good move? I don't know:
Mike McCarthy-to-Browns rumors running rampant
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/03/mike-mccarthy-to-browns-rumors/
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A few weeks back, Brett Kollmann's opinion was that the Pack's problems were a group effort:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bax9C8damOU
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I'm pretty sure this would not be the solution:
View: https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1069392368162492417
Mike McCarthy-to-Browns rumors running rampant
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/03/mike-mccarthy-to-browns-rumors/
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A few weeks back, Brett Kollmann's opinion was that the Pack's problems were a group effort:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bax9C8damOU
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I'm pretty sure this would not be the solution:
View: https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1069392368162492417
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on nfl primetime today jeff saturday, who played one season with rodgers at green bay, said that when the call came in from the sideline rodgers would roll his eyes at it back then but as he was a young player he just ran the play. so this has been going on his whole career. i think it has finally gotten to him as he has played very average the last couple of seasons.
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on nfl primetime today jeff saturday, who played one season with rodgers at green bay, said that when the call came in from the sideline rodgers would roll his eyes at it back then but as he was a young player he just ran the play. so this has been going on his whole career. i think it has finally gotten to him as he has played very average the last couple of seasons.
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TK42-RAM
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View: https://twitter.com/marshallfaulk/status/1069634770945130496?s=21
... maybe the great man has a point ?
Raptorman
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Fixed it for you.
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not really. peyton manning, tom brady, drew brees.
if it's done properly teams can thrive with a well paid elite qb. hopefully the rams will show the next generation how it's done once goff is paid
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https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...e-mike-mccarthy-nfl-coaching-trend-sean-mcvay
The Packers Fired Mike McCarthy Because Every NFL Team Wants Its Own Sean McVay
By Robert Mays
As the gap between the league’s best teams and their middle-class counterparts widens, teams’ windows to be patient are shortening. The work of Sean McVay with the Rams this season has created a new standard and a new timeline for head coaches, and that combination could lead to levels of offseason turnover that would have seemed unfathomable even a few months ago.
Given the level of success the Rams have found this season, more and more teams will inevitably begin searching for their own version of McVay—a pursuit that the Packers now begin in earnest.
There are reasons to be skeptical about how replicable the McVay blueprint is. Critics are likely to suggest that coaches like McVay don’t just materialize; finding a coach of that caliber is more complicated than plucking a 30-something play-caller off the staff of a trendy offense and expecting him to be the league’s next great coach.
The Titans tried to find some of the McVay magic this offseason by hiring former Rams offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur in the hopes that he could revive Marcus Mariota’s career. Tennessee currently ranks 28th in points per game.
There just aren’t dozens of brilliant offensive minds hanging around the NFL, waiting for their shot to be head coaches. And if a rash of firings does happen this offseason, with previously unforeseen jobs like the Panthers gig coming open, there likely won’t be enough quality candidates to go around.
Then again, this formula has been successful for teams other than the Rams. Bears head coach Matt Nagy has worked wonders with second-year quarterback Mitchell Trubisky and a rebuilt a group of talented pass catchers in Chicago.
And Frank Reich, in his first season as Indy’s head coach, has turned the Colts into an unlikely wild-card contender by orchestrating one of the league’s most well-designed offenses. It’s worth remembering that he was the Colts’ consolation prize last offseason after the team was infamously spurned by Josh McDaniels.
It’s inevitable that the success McVay, Reich, and Nagy have had will lead to some truly awful hires in the years to come. Rams quarterbacks coach Zac Taylor’s name already has been floated as a possible candidate for the Packers job and other potential openings; while Taylor may wind up being a brilliant hire, somewhere down the road a 30-something position coach who happened to work under someone like McVay is going to become a walking example of the Peter principle.
But even if that type of disaster is all but certain for some team in the near future, it shouldn’t be enough to prevent owners and decision-makers from chasing a coach who could transform their franchise.
The NFL’s pool of coaching candidates may not be deep enough for each franchise to find its own offensive mastermind, but there’s a reason Oklahoma’s Lincoln Riley has become the hottest name in the league’s coaching carousel. It’s no accident that the Rams and other front offices reached out to Kliff Kingsbury almost immediately after he was fired by Texas Tech.
Teams have started to understand what it takes to build a winner in the modern NFL, and for the franchises that don’t already have the ingredients, coaching changes are on the horizon. Firings like the one in Green Bay and rumblings like those in Carolina may be the first surprises of this season, but they certainly won’t be the last.
The Packers Fired Mike McCarthy Because Every NFL Team Wants Its Own Sean McVay
By Robert Mays
As the gap between the league’s best teams and their middle-class counterparts widens, teams’ windows to be patient are shortening. The work of Sean McVay with the Rams this season has created a new standard and a new timeline for head coaches, and that combination could lead to levels of offseason turnover that would have seemed unfathomable even a few months ago.
Given the level of success the Rams have found this season, more and more teams will inevitably begin searching for their own version of McVay—a pursuit that the Packers now begin in earnest.
There are reasons to be skeptical about how replicable the McVay blueprint is. Critics are likely to suggest that coaches like McVay don’t just materialize; finding a coach of that caliber is more complicated than plucking a 30-something play-caller off the staff of a trendy offense and expecting him to be the league’s next great coach.
The Titans tried to find some of the McVay magic this offseason by hiring former Rams offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur in the hopes that he could revive Marcus Mariota’s career. Tennessee currently ranks 28th in points per game.
There just aren’t dozens of brilliant offensive minds hanging around the NFL, waiting for their shot to be head coaches. And if a rash of firings does happen this offseason, with previously unforeseen jobs like the Panthers gig coming open, there likely won’t be enough quality candidates to go around.
Then again, this formula has been successful for teams other than the Rams. Bears head coach Matt Nagy has worked wonders with second-year quarterback Mitchell Trubisky and a rebuilt a group of talented pass catchers in Chicago.
And Frank Reich, in his first season as Indy’s head coach, has turned the Colts into an unlikely wild-card contender by orchestrating one of the league’s most well-designed offenses. It’s worth remembering that he was the Colts’ consolation prize last offseason after the team was infamously spurned by Josh McDaniels.
It’s inevitable that the success McVay, Reich, and Nagy have had will lead to some truly awful hires in the years to come. Rams quarterbacks coach Zac Taylor’s name already has been floated as a possible candidate for the Packers job and other potential openings; while Taylor may wind up being a brilliant hire, somewhere down the road a 30-something position coach who happened to work under someone like McVay is going to become a walking example of the Peter principle.
But even if that type of disaster is all but certain for some team in the near future, it shouldn’t be enough to prevent owners and decision-makers from chasing a coach who could transform their franchise.
The NFL’s pool of coaching candidates may not be deep enough for each franchise to find its own offensive mastermind, but there’s a reason Oklahoma’s Lincoln Riley has become the hottest name in the league’s coaching carousel. It’s no accident that the Rams and other front offices reached out to Kliff Kingsbury almost immediately after he was fired by Texas Tech.
Teams have started to understand what it takes to build a winner in the modern NFL, and for the franchises that don’t already have the ingredients, coaching changes are on the horizon. Firings like the one in Green Bay and rumblings like those in Carolina may be the first surprises of this season, but they certainly won’t be the last.
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Ram65
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Hard to tell what's going on with the Packers internally. Keep the QB and fire the coach is the first step. I heard on the radio that Rodgers doesn't study the games much or something like that. He likes to freelance. Be interesting to see how it goes with a new coach. They got the young WRs who could make the jump in year two. That and some cap space gives them a chance to turn things around quickly. Not sure how long Rogers wants to play.