Now THAT'S a crap call

[Classic Rams]

Tuck rule and now this. NFL loves them some Patriots.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I like Tony Dungy's comments. Paraphrasing: "That's a TD in college, high school, pop warner and anywhere where football is played except for the NFL."

I've commented alot on this current state of the modern NFL's analysis paralysis and overly saturated culture of replay and new rules, old rules blah blah blah. It's nauseating to watch as an old school fan like myself.

 

[jrry32]

I agree, but the catch rule is in place because the refs already are calling to many judgement calls and they were trying to simplify the catch call. Go figure. I would change the rule to having the ball in your possession for 2 seconds. Then if it is knocked out it's a fumble and the ground can't cause a fumble. Mix in the goal line stuff, get ride of the thru the going to the ground stuff. Simple.

Easiest way to rewrite the rule is to ignore going to the ground once the player completes the process of the catch. Two feet down (or whatever else is satisfactory) + football move = catch. Anything that happens afterwards is irrelevant. The majority of the plays would not be changed, but the plays where players clearly catch the ball and lunge for the end-zone would stop getting overturned.

 

[majrleaged]

Golden Taint wasn't falling? That's news to me. He ended up on the ground without the ball. No, Golden Taint was falling, but the refs arbitrarily decided that he held it long enough to not be considered falling. Which made no sense at all while watching the play.

That is where we are making our mistake. Trying to make sense. The NFL doesn't use comon sense. Other wise Gronk wouldn't be playing right now. And the tuck rule wouldn't have been around to let the cheatriots into their first super bowl.

 

[jrry32]

That is where we are making our mistake. Trying to make sense. The NFL doesn't use comon sense. Other wise Gronk wouldn't be playing right now. And the tuck rule wouldn't have been around to let the cheatriots into their first super bowl.

I'd give you two thread winners if I could. 110% agreed.

 

[RhodyRams]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/...ut-steelers-survive-the-ground-call-was-right

 

[blackbart]

I'm going to have to give the blame on the play to James. Just make the play, tuck the ball away and let Bell run it in, Don't try to do something great, just make the play.

I don't know what a catch is, when it is completed versus when you are still going to the ground versus being tackled after making a football move. But when he stretched and hit the ground his left hand lost control and the refs did what they are instructed to do. Incomplete, just like the Graham play against us today.

Sucks for the Steelers, they should have run the ball or kicked the FG.

 

[LesBaker]

If you have possession of the ball, and the plane of the EZ is broken while you are in possession it's a TD.

He did that.

The instant the ball crosses into the end zone in a persons grasp the play is over it's a TD.

He had the ball.

The moment that happens on the goal line the play is over.

Shit call by the refs and this is a BIG reason why fans are tuning out.........

 

[LA_vision]

According to the rules and how it has been enforced, it was the correct call.

 

[-X-]

Maybe it'll get a special name like the Tuck Rule did.
I'll leave it to the skilled rhymers here to come up with something.

 

[-X-]

According to the rules and how it has been enforced, it was the correct call.

Also true.
But man is that a stupid rule.
If that was an RB, it's a TD. But since it was a receiver ... nerp.

 

[RhodyRams]

Maybe it'll get a special name like the Tuck Rule did.
I'll leave it to the skilled rhymers here to come up with something.

the Pats suck rule?

 

[DR RAM]

Obvious, blatant holding, the entire game on the SheCawks, and it didn't matter, and a few groundings, not called. We still need to get those calls. Arm around entire neck, or two guys, holding around the waist, arms fully extended...please.

 

[Mackeyser]

No they didn't.. you have to complete the catch all the way to the ground.

Sadly its the right call... sadly...

His elbow hit the ground while being touched and the ball over the goal line.

Down by contact... thus, touchdown.

 

[Mackeyser]

Obvious, blatant holding, the entire game on the SheCawks, and it didn't matter, and a few groundings, not called. We still need to get those calls. Arm around entire neck, or two guys, holding around the waist, arms fully extended...please.

The non-call by the crew when to guys were literally holding him with both arms from behind... woulda made me angry, but we got the sack anyway.

And I think several times this year, Donald just says Freak It and gets the sack while being bear hugged by an OL.

 

[FarNorth]

The rule is stupid, and the NFL doesn't enforce it consistently enough. The process should be complete once a player makes a football move, regardless of whether he's going to the ground or not.

It's worse than stupid. It is utterly self defeating for the NFL.

Neither fans nor anyone else can make any sense out of the current version of the catch rule. It is inconsistent with TD rules, where crossing the goal line with the ball or hitting the pylon is sufficient for a score. It takes away from offense, the passing game, and great plays by receivers. Instead, it sends games at deeper and deeper into a never never land of official reviews. Frequently (as in this instance) the outcome is to make fans of the team that should have won feel cheated. And they were.

Why does the NFL do ANY of this? I could rewrite the rule to makes sense, why can't the NFl?

 

[Mackeyser]

If you have possession of the ball, and the plane of the EZ is broken while you are in possession it's a TD.

He did that.

The instant the ball crosses into the end zone in a persons grasp the play is over it's a TD.

He had the ball.

The moment that happens on the goal line the play is over.

crap call by the refs and this is a BIG reason why fans are tuning out.........

That's not how the rule is written.

The thing is, that he's down by contact with the ball in the endzone PRIOR to it coming loose.

Moreover, he caught it with his back to the end zone, planted two feet, THEN pivoted toward the end zone and lunged. That's the very definition of transitioning from receiver to runner.

As a runner, he put the ball across the goal line.

Their error was in NOT establishing him as a runner.

Moreover, he was touched down by contact prior to the ball coming out. So there are two different reasons why it should have been a touchdown.

And that's with the rule being written impossibly badly.

 

[Mackeyser]

This is going to burn the NFL during a Super Bowl.

You wanna see fans quit? Forget any boycotts over whatever.

You take a person's gambling money or cost their team a Lombardi? People will walk away fast.

Very fast.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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there was a reason the nfl changed the rule to what it is today. i'm positive there was even more controversy with tds being awarded that didn't deserve to be tds. i can't think of any examples but the catches with players falling out of the endzone had alot to do with the new rules being implemented.

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[LesBaker]

It was TD......