NFC playoff dynamic change after 2 huge upsets.

[wolfdogg]

I want the rams to beat the the top seeded teams on their way to win the superbowl. It shows who really is the best and no one can say, well, you didn't play so and so.

 

[wolfdogg]

Makes you wonder if the Cards arent spreading covid to their opponents. It sure seems odd that the day after playing arizona teams get hit with covid. How many cards players have tested positive the last 2 weeks? Are they not testing?

Exactly, and when jfk jr. Rises from the dead he will be wearing a cards uni and have proof OJ was innocent.

 

[wolfdogg]

People, people, what if you switched Rodgers and Stafford for their careers? Stafford drafted by green Bay and Rodgers in Detroit for 12 years.

My guess is no superbowl and maybe no HOF for Aaron

 

[SAK11]

People, people, what if you switched Rodgers and Stafford for their careers? Stafford drafted by green Bay and Rodgers in Detroit for 12 years.

My guess is no superbowl and maybe no HOF for Aaron

Stafford's much more of a gunslinger, good for 12-13 INTs a year. Rodgers is probably the best QB ever at limiting the INTs; he's probably around half that rate. The difference between going to Detroit versus Green Bay is huge, though; Stafford's showing how good he is with a competent team this year. Rodgers is still at another level, though.

 

[Mackeyser]

Stafford's much more of a gunslinger, good for 12-13 INTs a year. Rodgers is probably the best QB ever at limiting the INTs; he's probably around half that rate. The difference between going to Detroit versus Green Bay is huge, though; Stafford's showing how good he is with a competent team this year. Rodgers is still at another level, though.

Yeah… and… that Hero ball is tough to unlearn. Who’s to say that Rodgers doesn’t fall into that trap as well if he’s in Detroit?

It’s an interesting hypothetical tho

 

[Ramlock]

Yeah… and… that Hero ball is tough to unlearn. Who’s to say that Rodgers doesn’t fall into that trap as well if he’s in Detroit?

It’s an interesting hypothetical tho

And what if Stafford had played for McVay all these years? With Gurley, Woods, Kupp and now, OBJ?

With a defense.

May well have been a different player altogether, with the skills he brings that are the equal of Rodgers.

It’s been really fun watching him play this year.

 

[Spider2YB]

Stafford's much more of a gunslinger, good for 12-13 INTs a year. Rodgers is probably the best QB ever at limiting the INTs; he's probably around half that rate. The difference between going to Detroit versus Green Bay is huge, though; Stafford's showing how good he is with a competent team this year. Rodgers is still at another level, though.

I think Rodgers is the most talented QB in NFL history. There’s no one on his level when you look at the combination of footwork, arm talent, and football IQ. He’s legit in a class by himself—with all respect to Montana, Brady, Marino, Elway, etc.

I know Bradys got the resume, but if Rodgers had played 15 years in NE….forget about it.

Stafford is a legit generational talent when it comes to throwing the football. He’s right up there with Rodgers when it comes to arm talent. I have zero doubt he’d have at least one ring by now had he spent his first 13 seasons in a situation like the one he’s currently in. Different arm angles, he can layer throws in at any level, he can throw any route. I just think Rodgers separates himself from Stafford with his mobility and his accuracy. Stafford’s not inaccurate, it’s just that Rodgers is obscenely accurate. Stafford’s good enough to win a ring though. He’s tough as shit and is hungry. He’d sacrifice a limb to win…not sure Rodgers has that same hunger right now.

 

[Merlin]

And what if Stafford had played for McVay all these years? With Gurley, Woods, Kupp and now, OBJ?

With a defense.

May well have been a different player altogether, with the skills he brings that are the equal of Rodgers.

It’s been really fun watching him play this year.

Head to head he's not as good as Rodgers. But that's ok. You don't have to be that good to win Super Bowls. Not like that's a required threshold. Can he be good enough in this offense? Certainly, as long as the entire team can put together consistent outings.

We need our defense and line to play well. And both those things are possible. We're no favorite but we're in this thing.

 

[SeminoleRam]

Probably shouldn't worry about Dallas. They're the product of a patty cake schedule and division.

I really hope you are right! My LEAST favorite NFL TEAM (Even over the 49’s, Seahawks, Cardinals, Saints AND even the PATRIOTS!!)!!!

 

[Rynie]

Stafford is every bit the QB Rodgers is at this point which is all I care about.

You really believe that, huh?

 

[Mackeyser]

You really believe that, huh?

100%

I think if you put up a number of facets, Rodgers would be better with some and Stafford would be better with others, but I think it evens out.

No question that Stafford is tougher... I mean can you imagine us talking about Stafford's fucking TOE for weeks on end???

 

[Rynie]

100%

I think if you put up a number of facets, Rodgers would be better with some and Stafford would be better with others, but I think it evens out.

No question that Stafford is tougher... I mean can you imagine us talking about Stafford's fucking TOE for weeks on end???

I loathe Rodgers with every fiber of my being, but the guy is amazing. Stafford is a Dallas kid, so I don't actually hate him at all. I'd give Rodgers the knod, though.

 

[Kupped]

I'm glad the Rams got Stafford and I can't believe someone is suggesting Stafford is better at any aspect of QB play as Rogers.

Rogers is an effing first-ballot hall of famer who is still playing at a ridiculous level and almost never turns the ball over.

 

[Oregonram]

Beating the Packers isn't about Stafford vs Rodgers though. It's about playing better on defense which starts with shutting down his run game. Last year in the playoffs our defense caved on the ground. This year the defense actually played more stout on the ground and looks like they have improved a lot to date.

We still need Stafford to play well to beat them. And we need the secondary to play well too. But I don't think it's an impossible game by virtue of a Stafford/Rodgers comparison.

Obviously I don't favor us going to Green Bay in the playoffs. Still, though, we're one of the teams that is capable of that with some elevated play by certain parts of the team.

Having a good run game going into Green Bay is essential, especially in potential sub zero/snow conditions. Will the new McVay wielding a run game in Sony Michele continue to ground and pound, or will the ghost of Christmas past raise its ugly head, and make Stafford heave the rock +35 attempts? Anything can happen in this Covid environment.

 

[majrleaged]

Having a good run game going into Green Bay is essential, especially in potential sub zero/snow conditions. Will the new McVay wielding a run game in Sony Michele continue to ground and pound, or will the ghost of Christmas past raise its ugly head, and make Stafford heave the rock +35 attempts? Anything can happen in this Covid environment.

I think it will depend on the D. If they are moving thru the D like butter, like they did in last years playoffs you might see McVay revert.