Two years' development and probably millions of dollars and they fuckin ripped off ASU's logo.They copied the logo of Angelo State University. I foresee a copyright lawsuit.
Logo way too close to looking Charger-ish. Rams horn looks like a 'C'. Colors fit both teams, LA fits both teams Perfect for folks who like the Rams and the Squatters. They can wear that hat to all Sofi home games and root for both teams.
Bottom line is this logo is too close to both team, or maybe that was thier intention.
Two years' development and probably millions of dollars and they fuckin ripped off ASU's logo.
Sorry but this entire thing isn't just bad. It is a fucking catastrophe.
A couple of points... Yes, I recognize the hard work that artists put in in coming up with something new and unique. Yet, it's the patron of the product who decides if it's good or not...fair or unfair. Now the group who designs the art may think it's top notch, and it may be in their circle, but it's joe-six-pack with his gut reaction who may define it, and that collective definition will stick.While I tend to agree regarding the logos & colors, often what we can't control as designers is simple associations that the public makes that a focus group misses -- i.e. it looks like a morning news show logo. I've designed a number of buildings that I thought looked great, but then someone with no architectural training looks at it & goes *it looks like a taco stand" or something completely out of left field, but then it sticks for some stupid reason, smh. It's why I often show my most "out on a limb" designs to my wife first, to get her unbiased reaction - she's a teacher not a designer, so it's really helpful just to hear a "that's pretty cool" or a "meh" to see if I'm in the ballpark.
"morning show" is even relevant & not completely out of left field, because it was somewhat intended - the intent is to reflect a "sunny LA", a new beginning, brighter colors, a positive direction, etc.
Likewise the building design criticisms have some merit, even if coming from someone with no design experience. The shadows on the field may be a bit distracting for fans, probably not for the players at all. The shadows will be softer of course, due to the "frit" pattern on the ETFE, but depending on season & time of day they'll be present to some degree.
The oculus comments were made by me I think, so I'll respond. True, even fans in the upper sections will still be able to see the field, but directly in front of them will be the oculus. What do you think they're going to see first? just like a supermarket will put items they want shoppers to see first in the center / middle, the oculus will be eye-level with them. Being illuminated, with lots of 4k video content + audio related to said video content, it will be hard for fans at SoFI to focus on the action down on the field level. Furthermore, what the oculus WILL block is views of the other fans - part of the stadium experience is seeing 70,000 other people losing their minds when we score a TD. Over half of them will be partially or totally hidden behind the oculus for those in the upper levels. The lower levels of course won't have this problem.
I won't know all this for sure until I'm actually there in person, but judging from the upper-level views I've seen on the internet, where you're looking down to the field, the bottom chords of the roof cables stretch down to where they're right in front of you, and even lower than you by a bit. Once the oculus is lifted, it will be even lower than the upper-level eye-level, if that makes sense. Again, mid & lower levels won't have this problem, and in fact will have awesome views, my concern has always been that the upper levels will have partially obstructed views - not of the field, itself, but of the other side of the stadium. In fact, from the top level, I think the bottom edge of the oculus will be just above the opposite side line. Which will make it almost completely distracting.
Exactly! Why does every LA team need an LA in the logo. Why can’t that be secondary to the team being the Rams?
Overall I'm happy with the colors, thought it was going to be a darker blue, but the Royal blue has been a staple and I'm pleased. @LoyalRam has found his sea-legs again and I like his or whoever he copied it from much better, but all in all I'm not displeased although I felt the Ram Head should have been more defined.
Ordered the Hat with the LA Swirl, because I'm a believer in wear it loud, wear it proud. The helmet & uniforms are the next big thing most will be looking at every Sunday and I feel confident all fans will embrace the new uniforms...Stay Healthy everyone!
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Those of you who are so adamant that the new logos are just hot garbage... you certainly have a right to your own taste and opinions. The thing is, criticism always works better when you offer alternatives... whether the alternatives are better or not doesn't really matter... it provides substance.
The only examples of alternatives I've seen are the new Ram logos that were presented yesterday with minor tweaks. They are the same basic logos though. Nothing original has been presented by the most vocal critics.
Several years ago I wanted to create a cool Ram logo for myself and use it here on the site. I actually paid a professional to help me create my vision. Looking at the video the Rams posted yesterday with all of the different drawings gave me a flashback to when I was trying to do this. Some of those full bodied Ram drawings are almost exactly like some of the drawings I was going through. It took me about 3 months to come up with something that worked for me... so I didn't rush it and I didn't just rely on my own taste in the decision either. I ran examples by some of my friends who are in my age group and I also ran it by my college aged sons and a number of their friends. Hell, I even showed the wife and her friends different ideas as I was going along with the process.
I discovered that everybody really liked different things about the examples I was trying to decide between. Really different things. I realized at that point that I was going to have to decide on something to use and just go from there... the more folks I asked... the more impossible it became to narrow the choices. I was actually trying to decide between using a full bodied ram, just a ram horn, a cartoon like ram head, a real ram head, or a skull ram head. Those were the options I was able to narrow it down to... I was working with more initially, many many more.
The reason I wanted to do this is that I really didn't like our current logo at that time. Imagine that LOL. I wanted something more menacing and tough looking, and also new and different. It sounded real easy in my head when I 1st started. Well, it didn't turn out to be an easy thing at all... even though my goal was fairly simple and straightforward.
I put up my end result here on the site for a short time. It was cool in my eyes and I had some other members who thought the same. However, just like these new logos that were dropped yesterday, many people just didn't care for it the same way that I did. Having gone this this very process myself... yesterday's reactions that are all across the board do not surprise me in the slightest. Add in the fact that people naturally resist change and this response we've all witnessed should have been no surprise no matter what the new logos looked like.
So... those of you who don't like it... I ask you to present something original of your own. One that you really believe is badass as they come. Don't steal from the new ones that were presented yesterday. Present one of your own that you think is superior. I'm telling you right now though... don't get pissed when everyone doesn't agree with your hard work... because it's definitely gonna happen.
I look forward to looking at what others may create and present.
In the meantime.... I'm going to adjust my eyes and mind into our new logos the best that I can. The team presented 3 different versions too. It takes time to adjust to any change... this won't be any different. I really like the new Ram head logo as presented... it's a major improvement to the one we've had. And guess what???... I may even like it better than the one I came up with... if I'm being honest with myself I can admit right now that I like our new one better than mine.
Pay me what they paid Nike and I'll work on it.Those of you who are so adamant that the new logos are just hot garbage... you certainly have a right to your own taste and opinions. The thing is, criticism always works better when you offer alternatives... whether the alternatives are better or not doesn't really matter... it provides substance.
The only examples of alternatives I've seen are the new Ram logos that were presented yesterday with minor tweaks. They are the same basic logos though. Nothing original has been presented by the most vocal critics.
Several years ago I wanted to create a cool Ram logo for myself and use it here on the site. I actually paid a professional to help me create my vision. Looking at the video the Rams posted yesterday with all of the different drawings gave me a flashback to when I was trying to do this. Some of those full bodied Ram drawings are almost exactly like some of the drawings I was going through. It took me about 3 months to come up with something that worked for me... so I didn't rush it and I didn't just rely on my own taste in the decision either. I ran examples by some of my friends who are in my age group and I also ran it by my college aged sons and a number of their friends. Hell, I even showed the wife and her friends different ideas as I was going along with the process.
I discovered that everybody really liked different things about the examples I was trying to decide between. Really different things. I realized at that point that I was going to have to decide on something to use and just go from there... the more folks I asked... the more impossible it became to narrow the choices. I was actually trying to decide between using a full bodied ram, just a ram horn, a cartoon like ram head, a real ram head, or a skull ram head. Those were the options I was able to narrow it down to... I was working with more initially, many many more.
The reason I wanted to do this is that I really didn't like our current logo at that time. Imagine that LOL. I wanted something more menacing and tough looking, and also new and different. It sounded real easy in my head when I 1st started. Well, it didn't turn out to be an easy thing at all... even though my goal was fairly simple and straightforward.
I put up my end result here on the site for a short time. It was cool in my eyes and I had some other members who thought the same. However, just like these new logos that were dropped yesterday, many people just didn't care for it the same way that I did. Having gone this this very process myself... yesterday's reactions that are all across the board do not surprise me in the slightest. Add in the fact that people naturally resist change and this response we've all witnessed should have been no surprise no matter what the new logos looked like.
So... those of you who don't like it... I ask you to present something original of your own. One that you really believe is badass as they come. Don't steal from the new ones that were presented yesterday. Present one of your own that you think is superior. I'm telling you right now though... don't get pissed when everyone doesn't agree with your hard work... because it's definitely gonna happen.
I look forward to looking at what others may create and present.
In the meantime.... I'm going to adjust my eyes and mind into our new logos the best that I can. The team presented 3 different versions too. It takes time to adjust to any change... this won't be any different. I really like the new Ram head logo as presented... it's a major improvement to the one we've had. And guess what???... I may even like it better than the one I came up with... if I'm being honest with myself I can admit right now that I like our new one better than mine.
I’ve expressed how it can be better. It looks like LAC which is the Chargers and Clippers. Our little logo has no Ram in it. You look at reddit and other sites the Rams icon the LAC and nothing for a Ram. We’ve gone generic and don’t identify as the a Rams! We look like the Chargers now by our logo.Those of you who are so adamant that the new logos are just hot garbage... you certainly have a right to your own taste and opinions. The thing is, criticism always works better when you offer alternatives... whether the alternatives are better or not doesn't really matter... it provides substance.
The only examples of alternatives I've seen are the new Ram logos that were presented yesterday with minor tweaks. They are the same basic logos though. Nothing original has been presented by the most vocal critics.
Several years ago I wanted to create a cool Ram logo for myself and use it here on the site. I actually paid a professional to help me create my vision. Looking at the video the Rams posted yesterday with all of the different drawings gave me a flashback to when I was trying to do this. Some of those full bodied Ram drawings are almost exactly like some of the drawings I was going through. It took me about 3 months to come up with something that worked for me... so I didn't rush it and I didn't just rely on my own taste in the decision either. I ran examples by some of my friends who are in my age group and I also ran it by my college aged sons and a number of their friends. Hell, I even showed the wife and her friends different ideas as I was going along with the process.
I discovered that everybody really liked different things about the examples I was trying to decide between. Really different things. I realized at that point that I was going to have to decide on something to use and just go from there... the more folks I asked... the more impossible it became to narrow the choices. I was actually trying to decide between using a full bodied ram, just a ram horn, a cartoon like ram head, a real ram head, or a skull ram head. Those were the options I was able to narrow it down to... I was working with more initially, many many more.
The reason I wanted to do this is that I really didn't like our current logo at that time. Imagine that LOL. I wanted something more menacing and tough looking, and also new and different. It sounded real easy in my head when I 1st started. Well, it didn't turn out to be an easy thing at all... even though my goal was fairly simple and straightforward.
I put up my end result here on the site for a short time. It was cool in my eyes and I had some other members who thought the same. However, just like these new logos that were dropped yesterday, many people just didn't care for it the same way that I did. Having gone this this very process myself... yesterday's reactions that are all across the board do not surprise me in the slightest. Add in the fact that people naturally resist change and this response we've all witnessed should have been no surprise no matter what the new logos looked like.
So... those of you who don't like it... I ask you to present something original of your own. One that you really believe is badass as they come. Don't steal from the new ones that were presented yesterday. Present one of your own that you think is superior. I'm telling you right now though... don't get pissed when everyone doesn't agree with your hard work... because it's definitely gonna happen.
I look forward to looking at what others may create and present.
In the meantime.... I'm going to adjust my eyes and mind into our new logos the best that I can. The team presented 3 different versions too. It takes time to adjust to any change... this won't be any different. I really like the new Ram head logo as presented... it's a major improvement to the one we've had. And guess what???... I may even like it better than the one I came up with... if I'm being honest with myself I can admit right now that I like our new one better than mine.
I’ve expressed how it can be better. It looks like LAC which is the Squatters and Clippers. Our little logo has no Ram in it. You look at reddit and other sites the Rams icon the LAC and nothing for a Ram. We’ve gone generic and don’t identify as the a Rams! We look like the Squatters now by our logo.
edit when did this start auto changing when I type out c h a r g e r s? Stop that crap.
Calling them the Chargers is a big enough insult!Haha
It was a recent request for that auto correct.
You S Q U A T T E R hater!I’ve expressed how it can be better. It looks like LAC which is the Squatters and Clippers. Our little logo has no Ram in it. You look at reddit and other sites the Rams icon the LAC and nothing for a Ram. We’ve gone generic and don’t identify as the a Rams! We look like the Squatters now by our logo.
edit when did this start auto changing when I type out c h a r g e r s? Stop that crap.
Squatters are better thanYou S Q U A T T E R hater!
When our last logo came out I was ambivalent. Didn't really like it but since it was what we in the aviation maintenance world would call "within limits" for most fans nobody cared. Very few really hated it.In the meantime.... I'm going to adjust my eyes and mind into our new logos the best that I can. The team presented 3 different versions too. It takes time to adjust to any change... this won't be any different. I really like the new Ram head logo as presented... it's a major improvement to the one we've had. And guess what???... I may even like it better than the one I came up with... if I'm being honest with myself I can admit right now that I like our new one better than mine.
The yellow eyes show that the Ram's head is a demonic! Can't mess with the Demon Ram!I do like the Loyal design, but the yellow eyes look like horns start below the eye. And do we really need LA in the logo?
Just don't know why they F'd with the snarl. We're playing football, not golf!
Adding the snarl back also gives a nod to the past, per Demoff's goal.
Hey Loyal, did you design that pic in your avatar? I saw it posted by NFL Memes yesterday.....The yellow eyes show that the Ram's head is a demonic! Can't mess with the Demon Ram!