New: Latest on Kroenke, Rams and NFL in STL

[Rmfnlt]

Go figure, NFL network people are told by the NFL what the agenda is for the meeting and it's not good enough because this forum wasn't included in the meeting.

I'd bet all my ROD money that Wyche never spoke to one NFL Executive.

Believe what you wish.

 

[The Ripper]

Go figure, NFL network people are told by the NFL what the agenda is for the meeting and it's not good enough because this forum wasn't included in the meeting.

I'd bet all my ROD money that Wyche never spoke to one NFL Executive.

Believe what you wish.

The NFL Network is run by NFL executives so there is some kind of script that came down to the on air talent from the NFL.

 

[DCH]

Inglewood is permits away from being ready to break ground. I'm sure there's some other red tape, but I'm not used to this whole process.

Carson needs about 6-12 months of clean-up before it's close to shovel ready.

St. Louis is the only home market that is securing funding, gathering land. The other 2 are still just proposals and getting the stink eye from both their home teams and the NFL at large.

So, we are setting ourselves up for a STL vs. Inglewood showdown. It's in the NFL owners' hands at this point. Which do they choose?

Honestly I don't think there would even be a debate. What happens the next time an NFL owner wants a new publicly funded stadium if STL comes through and Kroenke says, "Nope, fuck you, I'm moving anyways"?

Publicly-funded stadiums are the bread and butter of NFL owners. They're not going to burn that because one guy (ostensibly) wants to move. If STL has a stadium, it has the Rams.

 

[ChrisW]

Honestly I don't think there would even be a debate. What happens the next time an NFL owner wants a new publicly funded stadium if STL comes through and Kroenke says, "Nope, freak you, I'm moving anyways"?

Publicly-funded stadiums are the bread and butter of NFL owners. They're not going to burn that because one guy (ostensibly) wants to move. If STL has a stadium, it has the Rams.

Yea, I agree.

 

[The Ripper]

Do you have a source on this? I haven't seen that yet

Vinny tweeted it out

 

[The Ripper]

I wonder what would keep stan from winning the relocation bid, and then cheaping out after he wins the bid. I'm just asking because there is a lot of talk about how nobody can control stan and make him do what he doesn't want to do. Since it is 100% private money and most of it his, how would they prevent this?

More rock solid revenues

 

[The Ripper]

Honestly I don't think there would even be a debate. What happens the next time an NFL owner wants a new publicly funded stadium if STL comes through and Kroenke says, "Nope, freak you, I'm moving anyways"?

Publicly-funded stadiums are the bread and butter of NFL owners. They're not going to burn that because one guy (ostensibly) wants to move. If STL has a stadium, it has the Rams.

It's happened in Cleveland and the team was allowed to leave with a valid lease in place for more revenues in Baltimore.

The other side is that the NFL doesn't want to have cities avoid commitments to the teams. There are other teams that have first tier clauses in their leases so what would happen to them if the NFL allow St Louis an out for the lease. The other cities wouldn't honor their agreements because the league won't support the owners.

 

[Rmfnlt]

The NFL Network is run by NFL executives so there is some kind of script that came down to the on air talent from the NFL.

Perhaps.

Perhaps not.

 

[RamFan503]

Perhaps.

Perhaps not.

Is this going to be your M.O. from here on out?

 

[Rmfnlt]

Is this going to be your M.O. from here on out?

I've been consistent the whole time, I believe.

Yet another example of how things get twisted, IMO.

Sam Wyche says something... it gets paraphrased here... no validation is provided... then it's assumed that, because he works for the NFL Network, that NFL Executives "scripted it" for him.

So, now it's legit, right?

Like I said.. believe what you wish... no bad intent there.

 

[den-the-coach]

Perhaps.

Perhaps not.

 

[The Ripper]

I've been consistent the whole time, I believe.

Yet another example of how things get twisted, IMO.

Sam Wyche says something... it gets paraphrased here... no validation is provided... then it's assumed that, because he works for the NFL Network, that NFL Executives "scripted it" for him.

So, now it's legit, right?

Like I said.. believe what you wish... no bad intent there.

It's not word by word what to say but they certainly have an outline of what they can and can't say on the air. Wyche didn't ask policy anything about the remediation that has to occur on the site prior to the start of construction.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I wonder what would keep stan from winning the relocation bid, and then cheaping out after he wins the bid. I'm just asking because there is a lot of talk about how nobody can control stan and make him do what he doesn't want to do. Since it is 100% private money and most of it his, how would they prevent this?

Technically nothing, but why would he do that? The Raiders/Chargers could do the same thing really, especially since they can't afford it, but there would be no reason to.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I've been consistent the whole time, I believe.

Yet another example of how things get twisted, IMO.

Sam Wyche says something... it gets paraphrased here... no validation is provided... then it's assumed that, because he works for the NFL Network, that NFL Executives "scripted it" for him.

So, now it's legit, right?

Like I said.. believe what you wish... no bad intent there.

That's how TV works, when people go on air for interviews or stories or things to that nature they are told what to say. They mostly read from a prompt, they have things they can and can't talk about, its very controlled, down to when and how long their commercials can be to even how long their intros can be.

Did an NFL owner tell him stuff personally? No, but the producers and writers and everything told him, and they were given confirmed information from others before putting it on the air. That's how TV works.

 

[MrMotes]

More of the same "reporting"... <sigh>

Aren't you the poster who says Kroenke hired Spagnulo, and Kroenke isn't the sort of person to give the stadium proposal to the NFL himself?

I guess i'm inclined to go with the reporters who cover this stuff...

 

[bluecoconuts]

Honestly I don't think there would even be a debate. What happens the next time an NFL owner wants a new publicly funded stadium if STL comes through and Kroenke says, "Nope, freak you, I'm moving anyways"?

Publicly-funded stadiums are the bread and butter of NFL owners. They're not going to burn that because one guy (ostensibly) wants to move. If STL has a stadium, it has the Rams.

Its pretty unlikely that this would burn that bridge for everyone else. What happens in one city means nothing in the next. LA wasn't special when the Rams and Raiders left, Oakland, San Diego and/or St Louis won't be special either.

 

[tahoe]

Its pretty unlikely that this would burn that bridge for everyone else. What happens in one city means nothing in the next. LA wasn't special when the Rams and Raiders left, Oakland, San Diego and/or St Louis won't be special either.

No way the NFL lets any team walk away from public money, it just wont happen. It will tell other cities that they don't have to give public money because the rams turned it down. That is a precedent that the NFL doesn't want to set.

 

[OldSchool]

No way the NFL lets any team walk away from public money, it just wont happen. It will tell other cities that they don't have to give public money because the rams turned it down. That is a precedent that the NFL doesn't want to set.

We've already established its happened before, stop with this please.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Oh geez...I feel like Eli Manning & John Elway...Anybody but the Chargers....I feel sick...

 

[The Ripper]

No way the NFL lets any team walk away from public money, it just wont happen. It will tell other cities that they don't have to give public money because the rams turned it down. That is a precedent that the NFL doesn't want to set.

We've already established its happened before, stop with this please.

It's also going to happen again because either way the NFL will be turning down public money in San Diego and/or St Louis.