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Tremendous! Thanks for that screen capture! More "Shenanigans"!Ohhhhhhhhh
That's huge. Seems like the stadium proceedings are going more and more towards a scenario of the Rams staying in STL. I'm happy about that.
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You mean the fake lawsuit that had all three sides wanting the same thing ended the way they wanted? Color me shocked.
Just pointing out again, there was no way they were losing in court. When the politicians and Unions want the same thing in STL, it happens.
Judge rules St. Louis can spend tax money on stadium without public vote
Posted by Josh Alper on August 3, 2015, 1:38 PM EDT
AP
A judge in St. Louis has ruled that the city does not need a public vote in order to spend city tax dollars for the construction of a proposed stadium to replace the Edward Jones Dome.
Judge Thomas Frawley agreed with the argument made by the Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority that the ordinance requiring a vote is invalid because it is too vaguely worded. One point of vagueness was that a new stadium was required to be “adjacent” to an existing convention center, which opponents argued did not apply to the current stadium proposal. Frawley ruled that the two sites did not need to be contiguous to qualify as adjacent.
“‘Adjacent’ has commonly been interpreted by Missouri courts to mean ‘near or close at hand’ and as ‘not necessarily meaning contiguous,’ i.e. not necessarily meaning touching each other or immediately next to each other,” Frawley wrote in his ruling, via the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
The ruling opens the door for the use of city money for a new stadium, although that may not be enough to stop the Rams from pursuing a move to the Inglewood, California stadium proposed by owner Stan Kroenke. It would allow the possibility of landing another team in the event the Rams did depart without hurting the chances of keeping them in town and the league will be holding a meeting next week to discuss stadium issues in St. Louis, San Diego, Oakland and Los Angeles.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...end-tax-money-on-stadium-without-public-vote/
Posted by Josh Alper on August 3, 2015, 1:38 PM EDT
A judge in St. Louis has ruled that the city does not need a public vote in order to spend city tax dollars for the construction of a proposed stadium to replace the Edward Jones Dome.
Judge Thomas Frawley agreed with the argument made by the Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority that the ordinance requiring a vote is invalid because it is too vaguely worded. One point of vagueness was that a new stadium was required to be “adjacent” to an existing convention center, which opponents argued did not apply to the current stadium proposal. Frawley ruled that the two sites did not need to be contiguous to qualify as adjacent.
“‘Adjacent’ has commonly been interpreted by Missouri courts to mean ‘near or close at hand’ and as ‘not necessarily meaning contiguous,’ i.e. not necessarily meaning touching each other or immediately next to each other,” Frawley wrote in his ruling, via the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
The ruling opens the door for the use of city money for a new stadium, although that may not be enough to stop the Rams from pursuing a move to the Inglewood, California stadium proposed by owner Stan Kroenke. It would allow the possibility of landing another team in the event the Rams did depart without hurting the chances of keeping them in town and the league will be holding a meeting next week to discuss stadium issues in St. Louis, San Diego, Oakland and Los Angeles.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...end-tax-money-on-stadium-without-public-vote/
I wonder how this will affect ticket sales this year? Still more hurdles to clear but I'm sure it can only help with that. Imagine how fans woulda felt if it went the other way? I think the stadium woulda been pretty empty except for opposing fans. A full stadium is good news for all Rams fans.
Now we are coming down to brass tacks...St Louis has the money ready, and Kroenke is spending his money in Inglewood. Carson is a ruse (imho), and the NFL seems to finally want to get LA done. If Kroenke does Inglewood with an extra lockerroom for another team, they can have the best of both worlds. An established, rich owner that will make LA work AND have the leverage option for any other stadium situation threatening a move..
Does the NFL have the will to stop the 2nd richest owner from building the fantasy stadium and new NFL West Offices on site? Or will they try to restrict the same private business owner to stay in ST Louis?
opcorn:
Does the NFL have the will to stop the 2nd richest owner from building the fantasy stadium and new NFL West Offices on site? Or will they try to restrict the same private business owner to stay in ST Louis?
opcorn:
Find out next time, ON DRAGONBALL Z!Now we are coming down to brass tacks...St Louis has the money ready, and Kroenke is spending his money in Inglewood. Carson is a ruse (imho), and the NFL seems to finally want to get LA done. If Kroenke does Inglewood with an extra lockerroom for another team, they can have the best of both worlds. An established, rich owner that will make LA work AND have the leverage option for any other stadium situation threatening a move..
Does the NFL have the will to stop the 2nd richest owner from building the fantasy stadium and new NFL West Offices on site? Or will they try to restrict the same private business owner to stay in ST Louis?
More like 2 or 3 episodes. We have to wait for Peacock to powerup to super saiyan.
Judge rules St. Louis can spend tax money on stadium without public vote
Posted by Josh Alper on August 3, 2015, 1:38 PM EDT
AP
A judge in St. Louis has ruled that the city does not need a public vote in order to spend city tax dollars for the construction of a proposed stadium to replace the Edward Jones Dome.
Judge Thomas Frawley agreed with the argument made by the Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority that the ordinance requiring a vote is invalid because it is too vaguely worded. One point of vagueness was that a new stadium was required to be “adjacent” to an existing convention center, which opponents argued did not apply to the current stadium proposal. Frawley ruled that the two sites did not need to be contiguous to qualify as adjacent.
“‘Adjacent’ has commonly been interpreted by Missouri courts to mean ‘near or close at hand’ and as ‘not necessarily meaning contiguous,’ i.e. not necessarily meaning touching each other or immediately next to each other,” Frawley wrote in his ruling, via the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
The ruling opens the door for the use of city money for a new stadium, although that may not be enough to stop the Rams from pursuing a move to the Inglewood, California stadium proposed by owner Stan Kroenke. It would allow the possibility of landing another team in the event the Rams did depart without hurting the chances of keeping them in town and the league will be holding a meeting next week to discuss stadium issues in St. Louis, San Diego, Oakland and Los Angeles.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...end-tax-money-on-stadium-without-public-vote/
He put the original rendering on this story......I wish he would have put the most up-to-date version.
DAVE PEACOCK'S STATEMENT ON TODAY'S LEGAL RULING IN ST. LOUIS
#STLNFL Task Force
Posted on Aug 3rd, 2015
"My task force partner Bob Blitz deserves a great deal of credit for today's result. Bob's commitment to the stadium project is impressive and his work on this matter, along with other members of our legal team, was extraordinary.
"The court's opinion is a victory for a bold and promising future for the NFL in St. Louis and the continued rebirth of our downtown. As we continue to make excellent progress on the stadium project, this is a great time for everyone in the St. Louis region to rally on behalf of something that will make a difference in our economy, national profile and quality of life for generations to come. We can make it happen."
http://lockerdome.com/7475583080735553/7910047376219153
#STLNFL Task ForcePosted on Aug 3rd, 2015
"My task force partner Bob Blitz deserves a great deal of credit for today's result. Bob's commitment to the stadium project is impressive and his work on this matter, along with other members of our legal team, was extraordinary.
"The court's opinion is a victory for a bold and promising future for the NFL in St. Louis and the continued rebirth of our downtown. As we continue to make excellent progress on the stadium project, this is a great time for everyone in the St. Louis region to rally on behalf of something that will make a difference in our economy, national profile and quality of life for generations to come. We can make it happen."
http://lockerdome.com/7475583080735553/7910047376219153
So, I'm assuming this is a good thing for St. Louis Rams?
He's speaking on the NFL as a business staying in the city. It's not generic in the sense that, "Oh, let's say NFL because we secretly know the Rams are already leaving."
You have to admit, the exclusion of the Rams name and substituted with "The NFL" is a bit curious.
Why not say, "The court's opinion is a victory for a bold and promising future for a new home for our Rams and the continued rebirth of our downtown."
When the new Busch was being built was it referred to as a home for MLB or the Cardinals?
All the renderings feature the Rams. He's also said many times "our Rams." The fact is, in this situation, he's referring to the business of the NFL staying in the city.
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