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dbrooks25

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I think 50% of the nation is on board with your scenario. It's a huge dilemma for the NFL moving forward. The view of the games in my living room is pretty damn good on a Sunday afternoon. Still, my own preference is to physically attend whenever possible. I like the energy and atmosphere. Thus far, I've dodged the pee pee puddles. I live near a metro station. From my front door to the EJD is ~ 30 minutes of easy travel. No parking hassles or DUI concerns.
I'm right there with you. I take the Rams Express to the games I attend. $7 bucks gets me dropped off and picked up right in front of the Dome.
 

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Not sure if any of you have read this, but the city council of SD has decided to go forth with their own EIR despite the Chargers' objections.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/14/chargers-council-money-environment-nfl-stadium/

Some statements from the article that I found interesting:

Chargers special counsel Mark Fabiani criticized the city's move after Tuesday's vote.
"The city’s quickie EIR will be full of holes and will be thrown out by the courts," he said. "The Chargers will simply not hitch the future of the franchise to the city’s misbegotten legal strategy."

The Chargers say it’s not possible the city can complete a comprehensive analysis of such a large project by Oct. 15, stressing that EIRs typically take 12 to 18 months.

Of course Fabiani tries to kill any notion as soon as it comes out. This is what several of us have talked about in being glad that the Rams - KD and/or Kroenke - have not been doing in the St Louis efforts. This guy is a POS of the highest order. At least KD shows some class in all of this and is leaving doors open.

City officials say NFL officials encouraged them last month to continue work on a new stadium without cooperation from the Chargers.
I take this to mean that the NFL may just be hinting that they know exactly what Fabiani/Spanos is pulling. It is exactly what has been going on for over a decade in SD. My thought is that the NFL is saying, "Don't let posturing and poison pills get in the way. Just go forward so we can actually see if it is doable and not just buy what Fabiani is shoveling."

I feel for all three cities - especially the Lou and SD. While I want St Louis to figure out the stadium issue, I can't get behind what Spanos has been pulling on SD this whole time. It's pretty bush league and given my druthers, I'd rather have an owner that says nothing at all than one who sends his yap dog out to piss in the pool every time someone wants to swim in it.
 

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Man ... all this shit makes my head hurt. I'm going to dismiss ALL of it until something ACTUAL and CONCRETE is announced. Freaking Twitter, Facebook, and every blog, message board is hammering this shit to death. It's going to end up however it ends up .. .and reporters, bloggers, fans and even most special interest groups won't have an affect on it. Money talks .... BIG money. in the end, it is going to be some kind of "backroom deal". Politics and big business ......
 

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How awful would it be if they decided to drag this for another year and say the NFL will return to LA in 2017 instead?
 

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How awful would it be if they decided to drag this for another year and say the NFL will return to LA in 2017 instead?

I'm not going to spend another year in limbo like we are now. Putting it off another year would be extremely disrespectful to the citizens of the 3 cities IMO.
 

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For all you folks who were talking about anti trust, Alan has a thread going discussing a lawsuit already in place regarding Direct TV.
 

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I'm not going to spend another year in limbo like we are now. Putting it off another year would be extremely disrespectful to the citizens of the 3 cities IMO.
Completely agree. Just lose so much interest when I'm not sure if we'll have the team around in a year.

Sidenote: this is unstickied?
 

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Either way, Rams are getting a new outdoor stadium.
The only reason I'd like them to move to LA, (other than I grew up with them), is that I'd get 11 - 2:00 pm games, guaranteed.
Every game this year, other than away division games and Thursday, is at 10:00 am.
I also think travelling to division games would have less impact.

Actually, when the mornings get brisk(doesn't really get cold around here) its kinda nice to get up from sleeping in late, put a fire on, have some coffee, breakfast and its only two hours till the Rams play.

Afternoons it seems like I always have errands. That's what nice about the 10AM games they play in St. Louis. In LA I'd have to wait for an extra 3 hours.
 

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And....nothing to see here folks.
Pretty much what I got out of it. Fisher just said what everyone already knows. The NFL wants a team in LA. The fans in LA deserve a team and should have a team. Fisher grew up in that area so I'm sure he would want the NFL in LA again. In no way did he indicate he thought it should be our team.

Pretty sure that was an old interview anyway. I think if you go back a few hundred pages of this thread, you will see it.
 

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I dont think there are too many people that will argue the fact that the NFL should have a team in LA....It's the "which team will end up in LA" question that we are all waiting to hear an answer on
Exactly. And I would be shocked if we hear anything definitive from Fish or anyone else in the Rams organization until some ink is put on paper.
 

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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/
Bernie: NFL meets with St. Louis stadium task force
National Football League executive vice president EricGrubman was in St. Louis on Thursday for a meeting that included Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon, stadium task force leaders Dave Peacock and Bob Blitz and Rams chief operating officer Kevin Demoff.

In a four-hour session held at the Four Seasons hotel, Grubman and three other representatives from the NFL received a comprehensive update on the status of the proposed $998 million stadium planned for the city's north riverfront.

The points of emphasis included stadium financing, an updated stadium design, and land acquisition. The discussion also entailed the preliminary outline of a prospective lease agreement that would be presented to the Rams or another NFL team.

"We continue to make progress," Peacock told the Post-Dispatch. "And it was a good update. We covered a lot of important ground, and we'll continue meeting with the NFL."


Nixon, Peacock and Blitz were accompanied by a team of advisers from Goldman Sachs, which is assisting on the stadium financing, and representatives from HOK, the St. Louis-based architecture firm that's designing the stadium.

Rams owner Stan Kroenke is planning to build a new stadium in Inglewood, near Los Angeles. The Rams are free to terminate their lease agreement at the Edward Jones Dome after the 2015 season, and it is widely assumed Kroenke will apply for relocation to move his team to Los Angeles for the 2016 season.

Kroenke faces competition in the LA market from the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders, who have partnered on a proposed stadium in Carson, an LA suburb. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has said the league will choose between the two stadium projects, selecting only one.

It's expected that the NFL will begin accepting relocation applications this fall, and the league owners could vote on the transfer requests early next year.

The St. Louis task force is racing against the clock to complete the funding and land procurement to secure an actionable stadium plan. If St. Louis hopes to receive the NFL's backing, a new stadium is mandatory.

A successful stadium effort could prevent the Rams from moving to Los Angeles. If the stadium plan unravels, Kroenke would have a much greater chance of convincing the NFL to approve a Rams move to Los Angeles.

Grubman and Goodell continue to encourage the St. Louis task force to keep working to finalize the project.

When asked about Grubman's reaction to Thursday's update, Peacock said:

"I think the NFL delegation was very pleased with the progress being made on the stadium. The feedback was positive. But we still have work to do, and we know that."

Obstacles remain.

In April the public board that runs the Edward Jones Dome filed suit against the city of St. Louis, contending that a 2002 city ordinance requiring a public vote prior to spending tax money on a new stadium is "overly broad, vague and ambiguous."

Stadium organizers are counting on the city’s portion of the stadium funding, which would be covered by an existing hotel-motel tax.

Arguments were heard by Circuit Court Judge Thomas Frawley on June 25, and a ruling is expected soon.

If Frawley rules that city residents must vote to approve use of hotel-motel taxes before the money could be used for the stadium, the task force would have to pivot quickly and hustle to bring the measure to a ballot.

A delay could put the project — and the city's NFL future — in jeopardy.

While there's no official deadline, NFL owners have scheduled an Aug. 11 meeting in Chicago to have an extensive discussion about the Los Angeles situation. So the timing is critical.

Peacock said the sooner he can present a secure funding commitment to the NFL, the more it will strengthen the city's chances of retaining the Rams and staying in the NFL. But a lengthy delay could doom the effort to keep the Rams/NFL in St. Louis.

Peacock added that the funding doesn't have to be in place by the Aug. 11 meeting, but he believes it's important for the task force to maintain the NFL's confidence in the viability of the St. Louis project.

A setback on the city's share of the funding could raise doubts among NFL executives and owners, which in turn could sway a relocation vote in Kroenke's favor.

To pay for the stadium the task force is counting on at least $250 million from the state and city, not including tax incentives and seat license fees.

Meanwhile, a second suit remains unresolved. Six state legislators sued Nixon in an attempt to prevent the governor from covering part of the cost for a new stadium by extending the bonds used to build the Edward Jones Dome. Nixon remains confident that his authority to extend the bonds will be reaffirmed in the upcoming ruling in Cole County.

Peacock said the NFL hasn't expressed any alarm over the ongoing legal disputes. Legal challenges to the use of public money to pay for stadiums is hardly new to the NFL. Unless the rulings go against Nixon and the task force, there isn't much to discuss.

"We updated Grubman on the status of the lawsuits," Peacock said. "It was part of the overall update. We discussed it and moved onto other areas."

Asked if he remained confident of a successful stadium resolution and the St. Louis campaign to keep the Rams or stay in the NFL, Peacock didn't hesitate.

"I really do," he said. "This was a good meeting, and the NFL is satisfied with what we've done to reach this stage. But we've got to keep going until everything is done. And we're committed to getting it done."
 
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