GAME DAY MNF - Lions at 49’ers

[Jacobarch]

Still need a QB who can make the throws. He's having a MVP caliber year.

No more than Sam Darnold

 

[Faceplant]

No more than Sam Darnold

This is an excellent point. It just can't be overstated how important it is to take coaching, scheme and surrounding cast into account. Darnold looks like a completely different QB with KOC and those weapons.

 

[jrry32]

No more than Sam Darnold

Goff's passing numbers are better across the board than Darnold's.

 

[jrry32]

Goff has been amazing, now I want to see Ben Johnson actually leave for a Head Coaching gig. I do not understand why he stayed because Assistants do not wait. Anyway, Jerod Goff deserves his success and I wish him the very best just not against the Los Angeles Rams.

He seems to be waiting for the right situation. Can't blame him on that. There's no urgency for him to go.

There’s no hate. It’s just sober analysis. It’s the exact same way I look at Purdy and Hurts. Good not great QBs that are being elevated because of their situations. This isn’t unique to Goff.

And it’s not just Lamar, Goff is behind Allen, Burrow, Saquon, and hell probably Jayden Daniels too.

Right. Because none of the other guys you mentioned have a good situation either. Saquon, for example, didn't make a massive statistical jump after leaving a bad situation for a good one. Remember that Kurt Warner guy who won MVP twice with our team? The offense around him sure did suck. It's a silly argument.

Goff won't win MVP because of Lamar. But he's producing at a MVP level. Goff's numbers are on par with Rodgers's and Brady's last MVP seasons.

 

[den-the-coach]

He seems to be waiting for the right situation. Can't blame him on that. There's no urgency for him to go.

I guess I can understand, but he should not keep waiting because eventually the offers will dry up. Last year how was not the Washington job not a great opportunity? He had new ownership a reenergized fan base plus they were going to draft Daniels?

Anyway Chicago seems like the perfect scenario, although they are going to have to meet his salary demands. Apparently he wants big money, but has never been a Head Coach before. We will see how this plays out, but I want to see what Campbell does when he loses Johnson.

 

[Jacobarch]

Goff's passing numbers are better across the board than Darnold's.

They are virtually the same lol. Like you literally can't get closer stats from two players on different teams

Goff
4,398
36
10
113.6


Darnold
4,153
35
12
106.4

 

[DzRams]

I guess I can understand, but he should not keep waiting because eventually the offers will dry up. Last year how was not the Washington job not a great opportunity? He had new ownership a reenergized fan base plus they were going to draft Daniels?

Anyway Chicago seems like the perfect scenario, although they are going to have to meet his salary demands. Apparently he wants big money, but has never been a Head Coach before. We will see how this plays out, but I want to see what Campbell does when he loses Johnson.

I question the Chicago scenario because of suspect ownership which may be the most important part of the equation.

 

[dieterbrock]

Goff's passing numbers are better across the board than Darnold's.

In his last 7 games, Goff has 20 TD and only 1 INT. Amazing

 

[Giles]

In his last 7 games, Goff has 20 TD and only 1 INT. Amazing

Media was on loves nuts last season for putting up numbers like that for half a season. With JG. Not a peep.

 

[Giles]

I question the Chicago scenario because of suspect ownership which may be the most important part of the equation.

I remember reading that ownership taking accountability for the situation was one of the things he's looking for in the interview process.

 

[dieterbrock]

I question the Chicago scenario because of suspect ownership which may be the most important part of the equation.

I agree. Even their fans are chanting Sell the Team

 

[den-the-coach]

I question the Chicago scenario because of suspect ownership which may be the most important part of the equation.

They were saying that too about Dean Spanos and he ponied up and paid Jim Harbarbaugh 15 million a year. Bears ownership has to step up here and I believe they will do that with Ben Johnson. The fans are clamoring for Johnson, the question is, will he want to be in the same division as the Lions?

Some have him going to Jacksonville, but IMO, that market is not the best even though that he might be able to request the GM he would want to work with. He will be the next Head Coach of the Chicago Bears.

NFL insider names team to watch to hire Lions OC Ben Johnson

Detroit Lions (14-2) offensive coordinator Ben Johnson has been a hot commodity the last couple years in the head coaching market, and the same remains true for 2025.

www.on3.com

 

[DzRams]

They were saying that too about Dean Spanos and he ponied up and paid Jim Harbarbaugh 15 million a year. Bears ownership has to step up here and I believe they will do that with Ben Johnson. The fans are clamoring for Johnson, the question is, will he want to be in the same division as the Lions?

Some have him going to Jacksonville, but IMO, that market is not the best even though that he might be able to request the GM he would want to work with. He will be the next Head Coach of the Chicago Bears.

NFL insider names team to watch to hire Lions OC Ben Johnson

Detroit Lions (14-2) offensive coordinator Ben Johnson has been a hot commodity the last couple years in the head coaching market, and the same remains true for 2025.

www.on3.com

Well, if ownership ponies up $15 mil., that's a great start!

But if I'm Ben Johnson, I'm asking for a guarantee that I won't be fired after year 1. Teams changing leadership too much is part of the reason they remain perennial losers. And I don't trust Chicago ownership's decision making.

IMO, the division you're in is not important. There are only 32 of these jobs, after all.

 

[den-the-coach]

Well, if ownership ponies up $15 mil., that's a great start!

But if I'm Ben Johnson, I'm asking for a guarantee that I won't be fired after year 1. Teams changing leadership too much is part of the reason they remain perennial losers. And I don't trust Chicago ownership's decision making.

IMO, the division you're in is not important. There are only 32 of these jobs, after all.

I guarantee you if Johnson gets a 5 year deal paying him well the Bears will not fire him. They have proven to stick with their coaches, if they are still under contract. They did that with Matt Nagy & Matt Eberflus.

 

[jrry32]

I guess I can understand, but he should not keep waiting because eventually the offers will dry up. Last year how was not the Washington job not a great opportunity? He had new ownership a reenergized fan base plus they were going to draft Daniels?

Anyway Chicago seems like the perfect scenario, although they are going to have to meet his salary demands. Apparently he wants big money, but has never been a Head Coach before. We will see how this plays out, but I want to see what Campbell does when he loses Johnson.

They're certainly not drying up yet. I'm not sure what he's looking for. We'll see if this year is the year.

They are virtually the same lol. Like you literally can't get closer stats from two players on different teams

Goff
4,398
36
10
113.6


Darnold
4,153
35
12
106.4

Goff
363/506
71.7%
4398 passing yards
8.7 YPA
36 passing TDs
7.1% TD%
10 INTs
2.0% INT%
113.6 Passer Rating

Darnold
343/504
68.1%
4153 passing yards
8.2 YPA
35 passing TDs
6.9% TD%
12 INTs
2.4% INT%
106.4 Passer Rating

I repeat, literally better across the board.

 

[Jacobarch]

They're certainly not drying up yet. I'm not sure what he's looking for. We'll see if this year is the year.

Goff
363/506
71.7%
4398 passing yards
8.7 YPA
36 passing TDs
7.1% TD%
10 INTs
2.0% INT%
113.6 Passer Rating

Darnold
343/504
68.1%
4153 passing yards
8.2 YPA
35 passing TDs
6.9% TD%
12 INTs
2.4% INT%
106.4 Passer Rating

I repeat, literally better across the board.

You literally quoted the same stats I just posted. Sorry but I'm not gonna say Goff is better based on such a small margin. But you're welcome to your opinion

By all accounts Goff is better than Stafford too right? Lol

 

[AZRams]

They were saying that too about Dean Spanos and he ponied up and paid Jim Harbarbaugh 15 million a year. Bears ownership has to step up here and I believe they will do that with Ben Johnson. The fans are clamoring for Johnson, the question is, will he want to be in the same division as the Lions?

Some have him going to Jacksonville, but IMO, that market is not the best even though that he might be able to request the GM he would want to work with. He will be the next Head Coach of the Chicago Bears.

NFL insider names team to watch to hire Lions OC Ben Johnson

Detroit Lions (14-2) offensive coordinator Ben Johnson has been a hot commodity the last couple years in the head coaching market, and the same remains true for 2025.

www.on3.com

What if Jim Irsay out-Irsay's himself and fires Shane Steichen?

 

[Mojo Ram]

Statistics meet eye test

 

[den-the-coach]

What if Jim Irsay out-Irsay's himself and fires Shane Steichen?

He won't unless he pulls a Daniel Farrell Reeves (former Rams owner) and does it on a bender. Reeves fired George Allen on Christmas Day in 1969 after he had a few too many. After the threat of a player revolt, he announced that Allen would return.

Reeves and Allen truly never got along as Reeves was behind the college draft and looking to improve it every year and Allen liked trading draft picks. In Reeves once said and I quote; "I had more fun losing with Harland Svare, then I had winning with George Allen."

 

[jrry32]

You literally quoted the same stats I just posted. Sorry but I'm not gonna say Goff is better based on such a small margin. But you're welcome to your opinion

By all accounts Goff is better than Stafford too right? Lol

It's not an opinion. It is a fact. Goff's passing numbers are better across the board. And yes, Goff is having a better season than Stafford.