Thordaddy
Binding you with ancient logic
- Joined
- Apr 5, 2012
- Messages
- 10,462
- Name
- Rich
Martz doesn't run the ball?
Rewatch the NFC chmpionship with Philly
Mike Martz
- Thread starter RamzFanz
- Start date
-
To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.
Rewatch the NFC chmpionship with Philly
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
Re-watch Super Bowl 36
Thordaddy
Binding you with ancient logic
- Joined
- Apr 5, 2012
- Messages
- 10,462
- Name
- Rich
I have but and FWIW the two games are remarkably different any idea why?
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
Martz gave the Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk the rock more compared to the Super Bowl game?
Thordaddy
Binding you with ancient logic
- Joined
- Apr 5, 2012
- Messages
- 10,462
- Name
- Rich
Why was that? I mean any idea why he decided to call it that way?
iced
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2013
- Messages
- 6,620
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
Maybe because he was Mad Mike? Is this the first time you ever went over how Mad Mike called games? It was Damn near the air Raid offense.
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
Maybe this will help give you memory back:
Faulk felt out of 'touch' with Rams' plan
NEW ORLEANS -- The old adage insists that numbers, cold and hard and absolute, don't lie. That wasn't the case for Super Bowl XXXVI, however, and more specifically for St. Louis Rams tailback Marshall Faulk, the league's premier offensive playmaker. Look at the stat sheet and it shows that Faulk got 21 "touches," 17 rushes and four receptions in St. Louis' stunning 20-17 loss to the New England Patriots. The "touches" were just 3½ less than Faulk averaged in his 14 regular-season appearances and only 1.4 less than the mean for his three seasons with the Rams. But when Rams head coach and resident offensive guru Mike Martz reviews the videotape of the galling defeat, he is apt to conclude that Faulk didn't get the ball nearly enough. And, unlike his game plan for attacking the Patriots' defensive scheme, Martz will be right. "I don't want to get into it," said Faulk, his shield quickly going up, minutes after the loss. "You do what they tell you to do. You run the plays they call. That's how it is and that's how it will be. I don't want to get into second-guessing now." True enough, revisiting the Rams' approach will do nothing now to mollify the hard feelings they will carry for at least six months, until training camp commences in July at Macomb, Ill., and the quest begins again. But the fact Martz got the ball so infrequently to Faulk, particularly with the running game, only serves to fuel the contentions of the critics who suggest the Rams head coach too often outthinks himself. In a brilliant but potentially volatile game plan, New England coach Bill Belichick dared Martz to run the ball, with the Patriots using "nickel" or "dime" personnel on 54 of 69 snaps. The scheme cried out for the Rams to run at the smallish Patriots' front, to muscle up and pound the football inside the tackles, to take another step toward expunging their "finesse" reputation. But the Rams never tried hard enough to run at the Patriots and, in essence, made New England's job easier in covering explosive wide receivers Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt.
The New England defense never really had to commit strong safety Lawyer Milloy to stopping the run and he and free safety Tebucky Jones were able to roam the deep zones and make big hits on the St. Louis receivers as they ran across the hashes or up the seams.
“ This is a line who loves it when (Mike Martz) runs it. We like to show people we aren't just (pass) protection guys, you know? We kind of blew it in that regard. ”
— Upset Rams player
Said cornerback Otis Smith who, along with partner Ty Law, played a brilliant cover game: "We like to think we support the run pretty good, but they never made us come up and play it, because they didn't run all that much." Only twice, in fact, did the Rams run the ball on more than two successive plays. The initial time was late in the first quarter, when Faulk carried for seven, two and six yards. But on the next play quarterback Kurt Warner was sacked by defensive end Bobby Hamilton for a five-yard loss and the negative play killed the promising drive. Halfway through the third period, Faulk carried on four straight plays -- for 12, six, 12 and zero yards -- but two plays later, Smith intercepted Warner and the Patriots converted the takeaway into a 37-yard field goal by Adam Vinatieri. The abandonment of the running game came only a week after Martz went to the ground at the outset of the second half of last week's NFC championship game. In that contest, he called seven straight rushing plays for Faulk, and the Rams' offensive line responded by dominating the Philadelphia Eagles' defensive front. There was no such commitment on Sunday night, and there were several St. Louis players privately puzzled by the absence of a running game. "This is a line," said one player, "who loves it when (Martz) runs it. We like to show people we aren't just (pass) protection guys, you know? We kind of blew it in that regard."
Faulk felt out of 'touch' with Rams' plan
NEW ORLEANS -- The old adage insists that numbers, cold and hard and absolute, don't lie. That wasn't the case for Super Bowl XXXVI, however, and more specifically for St. Louis Rams tailback Marshall Faulk, the league's premier offensive playmaker. Look at the stat sheet and it shows that Faulk got 21 "touches," 17 rushes and four receptions in St. Louis' stunning 20-17 loss to the New England Patriots. The "touches" were just 3½ less than Faulk averaged in his 14 regular-season appearances and only 1.4 less than the mean for his three seasons with the Rams. But when Rams head coach and resident offensive guru Mike Martz reviews the videotape of the galling defeat, he is apt to conclude that Faulk didn't get the ball nearly enough. And, unlike his game plan for attacking the Patriots' defensive scheme, Martz will be right. "I don't want to get into it," said Faulk, his shield quickly going up, minutes after the loss. "You do what they tell you to do. You run the plays they call. That's how it is and that's how it will be. I don't want to get into second-guessing now." True enough, revisiting the Rams' approach will do nothing now to mollify the hard feelings they will carry for at least six months, until training camp commences in July at Macomb, Ill., and the quest begins again. But the fact Martz got the ball so infrequently to Faulk, particularly with the running game, only serves to fuel the contentions of the critics who suggest the Rams head coach too often outthinks himself. In a brilliant but potentially volatile game plan, New England coach Bill Belichick dared Martz to run the ball, with the Patriots using "nickel" or "dime" personnel on 54 of 69 snaps. The scheme cried out for the Rams to run at the smallish Patriots' front, to muscle up and pound the football inside the tackles, to take another step toward expunging their "finesse" reputation. But the Rams never tried hard enough to run at the Patriots and, in essence, made New England's job easier in covering explosive wide receivers Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt.
The New England defense never really had to commit strong safety Lawyer Milloy to stopping the run and he and free safety Tebucky Jones were able to roam the deep zones and make big hits on the St. Louis receivers as they ran across the hashes or up the seams.
“ This is a line who loves it when (Mike Martz) runs it. We like to show people we aren't just (pass) protection guys, you know? We kind of blew it in that regard. ”
— Upset Rams player
Said cornerback Otis Smith who, along with partner Ty Law, played a brilliant cover game: "We like to think we support the run pretty good, but they never made us come up and play it, because they didn't run all that much." Only twice, in fact, did the Rams run the ball on more than two successive plays. The initial time was late in the first quarter, when Faulk carried for seven, two and six yards. But on the next play quarterback Kurt Warner was sacked by defensive end Bobby Hamilton for a five-yard loss and the negative play killed the promising drive. Halfway through the third period, Faulk carried on four straight plays -- for 12, six, 12 and zero yards -- but two plays later, Smith intercepted Warner and the Patriots converted the takeaway into a 37-yard field goal by Adam Vinatieri. The abandonment of the running game came only a week after Martz went to the ground at the outset of the second half of last week's NFC championship game. In that contest, he called seven straight rushing plays for Faulk, and the Rams' offensive line responded by dominating the Philadelphia Eagles' defensive front. There was no such commitment on Sunday night, and there were several St. Louis players privately puzzled by the absence of a running game. "This is a line," said one player, "who loves it when (Martz) runs it. We like to show people we aren't just (pass) protection guys, you know? We kind of blew it in that regard."
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
- Joined
- Feb 9, 2014
- Messages
- 20,922
- Name
- Peter
My main memory of that game was screaming at the refs to finally call the Pats D for repeatedly holding Marshall Faulk. 
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2011
- Messages
- 3,025
- Name
- Jeff
Stranger
How big is infinity?
- Joined
- Aug 15, 2010
- Messages
- 7,182
- Name
- Hugh
My main memory of that game was screaming at the refs to finally call the Pats D for repeatedly holding Marshall Faulk.
Ugh, watching that video makes me sick.
And now the NFL is going to be able to centrally review and call penalties via instant replay. Some think this will help, I just think it will enable the NFL to centrally control & manipulate the outcomes of games.
RmsLegends
Rookie
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2014
- Messages
- 165
Honestly I think we fell victim to the same thing that helped us win SB 34. We played Fish earlier in the year and so had a distinct advantage of seeing tape and a front row seat to how he game planned. We saw how he brought pressure and was able to sack Warner 6 times from the DB, LB and D-Line positions. We saw how he ran the ball 31 times. An more importantly we lost to the Titans in that earlier meeting. So it made our game plan in the SB easy to figure out. We had lost so the psychology of it is it is easier to see what ya did wrong when ya lose and do something different.
In SB 36 we once again played a team we had met earlier in the year and had film and real time experience with them. We won this though so our weakness were not as exposed to us as they would have been in a loss. We threw 3 picks in that game but it did not cost the game so I think we never really keyed on how they were reading Warner so they could be in position to make those picks and the type of play calling to make it happen. We went into SB 36 already knowing we could play our game and beat them. The Pats had lost earlier and so it was more glaring what they needed to call to win and just like before they put their defense in position to pick Warner and it really cost us.
So in endeavours of the physical such as sports the military and such ya really learn it is always more mental than it is physical. An so ya have to train harder at the mental part. We in my opinion got beat there both our coaching and our team. The problem is mentally sometimes when ya win ya just don't see your mistakes and faults and weakness. The Pats saw theirs as they had lost in the earlier meet. So I think the Pats had the same advantage we had when we played the Titans it was more glaring after a prior loss to see what ya should have done different so ya could have a different outcome next time.
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2013
- Messages
- 22,905
- Name
- mojo
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
My main memory of that game was screaming at the refs to finally call the Pats D for repeatedly holding Marshall Faulk.
lmao I'm well versed of that video. I have a long history of arguing with retarded ass Cheatriot fans. My name is triplebd101 on youtube. Havn't been on that video arguing in a long time but even thier fans know we got bamboozled.
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
I've tried.... I feels like getting that STD check where they stick the qtip up your pee hole man... PAINFUL.... HAD TO TURN IT OFF
Yamahopper
Hall of Fame
- Joined
- Jul 31, 2010
- Messages
- 3,838
I would like Martz to spend 1 day with Bradford and Schotty showing them how to smooth the routes and slant it more vertical. Schotty has the right idea, but runs to many horizontal routes that ends with the receiver standing flat footed.
The Rammer
ESPN Draft Guru
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2011
- Messages
- 2,400
- Name
- Rick
- Joined
- Jun 28, 2010
- Messages
- 48,132
- Name
- Burger man
No to Martz! We don't have the pieces to make that work.
In this offense... Schotty needs a little of Martz imagination, sure.
But... Let's face it; Schotty isn't a creative or brilliant offensive mind. He can manage an offense... But he's not earned league wide praise to this point for a reason.
In some regards it's surprising Fisher is supportive of his style... Because defensively they are aggressive... Offensively they have no balls.