Miami Trading #3 to.....SF

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The 49ers plan on winning now...repeat for the next 5 drafts

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I don't like talking smack about newly drafted players because none of us know what they will be, but my first impression watching him play was that he was a thicker Jameis Winston.
 

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Lance looks decent. Im just happy they took a running QB which means he will is going to get more injuries and therefore less games
 

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I don't like talking smack about newly drafted players because none of us know what they will be, but my first impression watching him play was that he was a thicker Jameis Winston.

I didn’t get that,but I don’t want to look it up right now.Winston always looked big to me in the pocket.
 

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Yeah, if you are a 49’er fan you sort of need to bury your head in the sand and hope this works out.

They traded away all those picks to target Mac Jones. As it turns out.... they could have got him staying put, with zero trade of picks.

Instead, they change their mind and grab Trey Lance and all of his 208 college pass completions for those 3 first round picks?

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I'm not gonna lie; Lance was a solid pick for them. It sucks that they didn't go after Mac Jones, but it is what it is.

Time to crush Lance, preferably with the two picks we got from the 69ers in the fourth round!
 

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They traded away all those picks to target Mac Jones. As it turns out.... they could have got him staying put, with zero trade of picks.

Instead, they change their mind and grab Trey Lance and all of his 208 college pass completions for those 3 first round picks?
I agree. I think they wanted Jones.
Lance may end up being great but for now I’m seeing Cardale Jones. Not in style just in how great he looked in limited play and when there was enough tape on him, he just didn’t have it.
 
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The other really weird part about that take is that the Niners will likely start Jimmy all year if he stays healthy and they're winning.

The Rams are the ones staying a year ahead IMO.

The Cardinals and Seahawks biggest weakness are the CBs. The Niners also have mediocre CBs.

Now we have the deepest WR group in the NFL and Stafford at QB.
 

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Trey Lance and all of his 208 college pass completions for those 3 first round picks?

Several conversations with pals since the draft... this point keeps coming up.

Has there ever been a less proven player, traded for that amount of draft capital?

Maybe this works out for the 49’ers... maybe Lance is a gem... but this has got trouble written all over it. And I love that.

Huge gamble they took.
 

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Yeah, if you are a 49’er fan you sort of need to bury your head in the sand and hope this works out.

They traded away all those picks to target Mac Jones. As it turns out.... they could have got him staying put, with zero trade of picks.

Instead, they change their mind and grab Trey Lance and all of his 208 college pass completions for those 3 first round picks?

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This is a false narrative created entirely by sports media.

Shanahan told Lynch in January he was starting to get "obsessed" with Lance, and sent him a cut-up of his film. And the reasons are obvious: the NDSU is an under center offense with lots of play-action, with the QB calling plays in the huddle, reading the defense at the line (instead of looking at cards on the sideline), and calling his own protections -- in addition to the strong arm and athleticism (except the athleticism is used on designed runs and when the play breakdowns. He is NOT a one-read and run QB. He goes through progressions and usually exhausts the play).

Now, that doesn't mean Lance is going to be great, but it's clear why Shanahan liked him.

What happened after that is the following:

They really liked Lance, but would have be happy with Jones if Lance wasn't who they thought he was based on the tape (a physically gifted guy who could run Shanahan's offense, because his college offense was similar). They weren't sure he had what it would take to improve his weaknesses (weaknesses Jones didn't have). So, the plan was to trade up in order to (a) make sure they get either their first choice (Lance) or their back up plan if Lance isn't who they hoped he'd be (Jones), and (b) to give them the ability to do the deep dive they really wanted to without risking some other team figuring out their plans and trading up for their guy.

Shanahan and Lynch didn't even tell each other who they preferred of Jones and Lance until late in the process, so how the hell are Michael Lombardi's sources (that he'd put against your sources lol) going to know? The most likely cause for this, assuming Lombardi didn't make up what his sources said, too, is that 49ers' scouts falsely believed Lynch/Shanahan weren't listening to their pitch for Lance or Fields because Lynch/Shanahan were deliberately obtuse in order to conceal who they were leaning toward from the scouts. The scouts then likely ranted to their family or friends about it, and that's probably how Lombardi heard. He just didn't take into account that the scouts were ASSUMING Lynch/Shanahan wanted Jones because neither one gave any indication of the information the scouts were giving as having any affect (note: that explanation has exactly as much evidence as Lombardi's claims, except it also comes with a reasonable explanation that actually matches what Lynch and Shanahan said, so it's more believable).

And again, this internal secrecy was deliberate. As Shanahan pointed out, in the past someone jumped ahead of him because he was loose with who he liked in the building.

The scouts found out who they were drafting on draft day...


So yeah, no. Every time you hear that Shanahan "changed his mind" or was "convinced by pressure," what you're hearing is a MADE UP STORY which is designed to help salvage the credibility of some analysists who jumped the gun on suspect sources, ultimately to make sure their value to the network they work at remains high.
 
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This is a false narrative created entirely by sports media.

Shanahan told Lynch in January he was starting to get "obsessed" with Lance, and sent him a cut-up of his film. And the reasons are obvious: the NDSU is an under center offense with lots of play-action, with the QB calling plays in the huddle, reading the defense at the line (instead of looking at cards on the sideline), and calling his own protections -- in addition to the strong arm and athleticism (except the athleticism is used on designed runs and when the play breakdowns. He is NOT a one-read and run QB. He goes through progressions and usually exhausts the play).

Now, that doesn't mean Lance is going to be great, but it's clear why Shanahan liked him.

What happened after that is the following:

They really liked Lance, but would have be happy with Jones if Lance wasn't who they thought he was based on the tape (a physically gifted guy who could run Shanahan's offense, because his college offense was similar). They weren't sure he had what it would take to improve his weaknesses (weaknesses Jones didn't have). So, the plan was to trade up in order to (a) make sure they get either their first choice (Lance) or their back up plan if Lance isn't who they hoped he'd be (Jones), and (b) to give them the ability to do the deep dive they really wanted to without risking some other team figuring out their plans and trading up for their guy.

Shanahan and Lynch didn't even tell each other who they preferred of Jones and Lance until late in the process, so how the hell are Michael Lombardi's sources (that he'd put against your sources lol) going to know? The most likely cause for this, assuming Lombardi didn't make up what his sources said, too, is that 49ers' scouts falsely believed Lynch/Shanahan weren't listening to their pitch for Lance or Fields because Lynch/Shanahan were deliberately obtuse in order to conceal who they were leaning toward from the scouts. The scouts then likely ranted to their family or friends about it, and that's probably how Lombardi heard. He just didn't take into account that the scouts were ASSUMING Lynch/Shanahan wanted Jones because neither one gave any indication of the information the scouts were giving as having any affect (note: that explanation has exactly as much evidence as Lombardi's claims, except it also comes with a reasonable explanation that actually matches what Lynch and Shanahan said, so it's more believable).

And again, this internal secrecy was deliberate. As Shanahan pointed out, in the past someone jumped ahead of him because he was loose with who he liked in the building.

The scouts found out who they were drafting on draft day...


So yeah, no. Every time you hear that Shanahan "changed his mind" or was "convinced by pressure," what you're hearing is a MADE UP STORY which is designed to help salvage the credibility of some analysists who jumped the gun on suspect sources, ultimately to make sure their value to the network they work at remains high.
So what's your opinion on San Fran aiming for Stafford, then Watson, then Rodgers and settling for the rookie?