McVay said he was suprised by all the cheering when the packers scored.

[Mackeyser]

Too many fans are comfortable selling the highest demand tickets to offset a major chunk of their season ticket purchase.

I'd rather fans buy what they can afford to attend rather than overbuy and expect to sell the most in demand games.

 

[majrleaged]

Never lived in LA or St Louis.

Lots of great diehard fans in both locations.

BUT. I to watched the entire game. Why can I hear AR cadence and Goff is in a silent count?

Ram fan or not, When the home team is home. No way no how should there ever be more than 10% of the stadium with the enemy.

To put it nicely. It freaking sucks

Well, I can't argue that point.

 

[rdlkgliders]

Too many fans are comfortable selling the highest demand tickets to offset a major chunk of their season ticket purchase.

I'd rather fans buy what they can afford to attend rather than overbuy and expect to sell the most in demand games.

I hear you Mac, but things are often more complicated, EX: I buy 3 season tix every year. I plan on taking my Wife and Son or may my Son and a friend. The Caveat My son plays competitive traveling sports and his schedule comes out after I have to commit to the seaon tix. This scenario leaves me needing to get rid of some tix. To be honest the first two seasons I offered them right here on the ROD with parking and got no takers....

I have to say typing this brought a tear to my eye as I always tried to give them to @DaveFan'51 and when he could he would go.

Anyway It just has a lot of layers. I get territorial at times and want bad things to happen to opposing fans in our stadium so trust me I get it

 

[threesox84]

C'mon DB... I think you know better.

If the Giants were undefeated and playing Green Bay and...
* The Knicks had Lebron and were playing that night while the Nets were playing in Brooklyn
* The Yankees were in the World Series against LA at Yankee Stadium
* The Devils, Rangers and Islanders were all home..

If all that happened, I guarantee Metlife would be sold out and those Giants fans wouldn't have sold out like Rams fans did yesterday. I'd bet, maybe 25% would be Packers fans.

That's because New York is a cold-weather city and people from the midwest don't flock there every winter like they do the west and southwest. Without the waves of pasty-thighed midwesterners there's no $$$, and if there's no $$$ then there isn't any reason to sell out, is there? Way to go out on a limb!

 

[Ramlock]

Rams decided to offer up 10,000 extra seats..........and McVay is surprised that the Packers fans were in heavy attendance LOL.........ok. Who did he think those tickets were for? What did he expect? Kroenke decided to open the gates for Packers fans because of the $$$. If they weren't showing up those 10,000 seats don't get put on the market.

Les, do you really think McVay was looped in “hey, we’re selling 10k extra seats”?

LOL at the non-sequitor

 

[Ramlock]

The main thing to remember is kids like myself in 1968.
I'd heard about the Rams, I figured I should like the Rams because they were my local team.
My dad took me to the Rams - Giants game at the Coli.

We were down at the half and it looked like it was going to be a loss but the Rams came back in the second half and won the game.
The excitement of it hooked me for life.
Yesterday, the excitement of that game hooked a thousand more kids like it did me in '68.

It looks like to me every game at the Coliseum is bringing a little more excitement.

That's all you can ask for when you consider the environment;
Fans are still mad at the Rams for moving to begin with.
Tons of out-of-towners that already have a team.
The fact that there IS a lot to do out there.

That place was packed for a Rams game like it hasn't been packed in a long, long time.

It's all moving forward perfectly, in my opinion.

I was a kid like you in ‘68 but in Arkansas.

My Dad went to college with Eddie Meador...that’s how it happened for me.

Best post I’ve read in this thread.

Attendance must be up 40% over last year...good atmosphere and better than a ghost town.

Good job, SS!

 

[threesox84]

There will be no home field advantage IMO, the market isn't right for it. Like Las Vegas, Tampa, Jacksonville and Miami opposing fans will travel there, and especially fans from cold weather cities.

I think it's silly to presume anything at this point, but based on the histories of other teams in LA I'd suggest the Rams' home field advantage will get better, not worse, as time goes on.

Anyone thinking this will change with the new stadium is IMO totally wrong. Opposing fans are flocking to LA to go to a dumpy stadium in the middle of renovations. They will come to the new place in the same or higher numbers for the novelty of it, to see the stadium. So it'll get worse not better.

Who knows, you could be right, but it certainly wouldn't be for the reason you gave. The novelty of "first time seeing the ______s live in LA" will wear off as each of those teams plays here more and more. For instance, yesterday was the first time the Packers have appeared in LA since the 1990s -- talk about a sugar rush for those fans. Those cheese people were willing to fork over way more than face value for tickets. Will they be willing to fork over the same $$$ next time? How about in 10 years when Rodgers is long gone and the Packers have already played in LA a bunch of times?

The novelty of coming to see a stadium will most assuredly wear off.

As long as NFL games cost huge money to attend this will happen. Many hometown fans that would love to attend can't justify dropping hundreds of dollars 8 times a year. So opposing teams fans who are able to afford the weekend trip take their place.

That really isn't the trouble. It's the season ticket holders who are so tempted by the extra cash that they can't help but sell to opposing fans.

 

[Poppinfresh]

Too many fans are comfortable selling the highest demand tickets to offset a major chunk of their season ticket purchase.

I'd rather fans buy what they can afford to attend rather than overbuy and expect to sell the most in demand games.

So, the problem with your "comfort" is that football doesn't let you pick when you buy season tickets. My NHL season tickets? I can buy a quarter season, a half season, etc. Baseball? Same thing, you can buy in packs. I assume basketball is the same thing.

NFL? Gotta buy every game - including the 2 preseason games nobody wants to go to (no, seriously, I had a hard time GIVING them away) - and yes, they cost just as much as the tickets to the Packers game. Then for the less marquee games, between the poor stadium experience in the ghetto and the lack of diehard Ram fans in the region, you're lucky if you can even get face value out of the seats right now. So of course people are going to take advantage of the couple games a year they can try to get themselves back to a break-even point, especially since I imagine I'm but one of MANY who only have these tickets right now because I've been told I have to keep buying them if I want my seats at the new stadium. I'd gladly have foregone season tickets at the Coliseum if it meant I still got to keep the seats at the new venue. Rams leadership has set itself up for this scenario, especially with the open being delayed another year.

 

[RamFan503]

There were times when our Fans drowned out all other noise.

It was back and forth... the crowd noise did the same.

I heard much more Ram noise... and the RAM'S HOUSE scream sounded awesome blaring through my speakers.

Clips of the game are are not giving you the correct picture.

Yep. What I noted as well. There were a couple times when the GB fans were loud. There were several times when the Rams fans were louder. And sorry but when the peckers tried to get the crowd louder it didn’t really have much effect.

As to not hearing Goff. Since when HAVE you heard Goff be all that loud? You mean because he’s not constantly yelling Omaha like some fool redneck?

I could hear him at times. I could hear AR at times.

When I watched the narrow clips to fit the narrative, I saw a lot of pecker fans. When they showed more wide angles, low and behold, there were a lot more Rams fans than they wanted to portray. I found myself simply saying, “oh fuck off with this bullshit”. It gets old.

 

[Young Ram]

Unfortunately, I was unable to attend because I really did have a family event I wanted to go to.

Our fans let it be known though who’s house it was at the end of the game.

 

[ninedeuce]

The crowd noise was louder for the Packers.

Maybe someone who was at the game can provide a little insight.

I would say it was 50/50 as a whole, very much like the Eagles game last year. My section (end zone, torch end) was mostly Rams fans. I think a lot of people at our section purchased the Season Pass ticket package, which is what myself and 3 friends did. It’s discounted season seats that have a stipulation that we are not allowed to resell the tickets.

I also know a few people who purchased season tickets with the sole intent of reselling them and evidently more than “a few” people resold theirs. I knew there were going to be a lot of Packer fans but I was really disappointed in the turnout for our unbeaten team. Yes the coliseum is an old dump, it’s hot and it takes forever to take a leak. Yes the Dodgers were playing game 5 and there were several other events happening simultaneously in downtown but I definitely expected more of us out there.

With that said, I felt like we were just as loud on our TD’s. The loudest it got for us was after the fumble and we REALLY got after it during the last “WHOSE HOUSE?/RAMS HOUSE!” after the victory had been secured.

 

[threesox84]

I don't like hearing "Go Pack Go" blaring through my speakers.

Oh come on, this kind of exaggeration is what makes some of us roll our eyes.

Yes there were too many Packer fans and yes they were loud at times but I remember that "Go Pack Go" chant -- it happened during a dead part of the game when no one else was making any noise and it sounded like the student section at a mid-major college basketball game. If that was "blaring" then you probably just need to turn your system down a bit.

 

[badnews]

Oh come on, this kind of exaggeration is what makes some of us roll our eyes.

Yes there were too many Packer fans and yes they were loud at times but I remember that "Go Pack Go" chant -- it happened during a dead part of the game when no one else was making any noise and it sounded like the student section at a mid-major college basketball game. If that was "blaring" then you probably just need to turn your system down a bit.

Well, roll your eyes all you want but I also heard it loud and clear and going on pretty much the whole game.
It was embarrassing and the Packers fans were just eating it up like it was a big joke right up until the Ty Montgomery fumble.

 

[LesBaker]

Les, do you really think McVay was looped in “hey, we’re selling 10k extra seats”?

LOL at the non-sequitor

He didn't have to be looped in, this was made public. He's not stupid and he knows why extra tickets become available.

When I heard 10K seats were being opened up I knew why.

A money grab to sell more tickets made the crowd much more Packer friendly.

SK should take that into consideration

He doesn't care who buys you know that.

there are a lot of Packer fans here in SoCal. Local packer fans had their first chance to see them here in LA since what, the early 90’s?

There are a lot of fans of every team within driving distance of the stadium so this can potentially happen on any Sunday.

I think it's silly to presume anything at this point, but based on the histories of other teams in LA I'd suggest the Rams' home field advantage will get better, not worse, as time goes on.

The novelty of coming to see a stadium will most assuredly wear off.

I live in Florida. Each team here has two issues with attendance. The number of transplants buying tickets that are fans of the opposing teams and the number of fans from out of town that will fly in for a 3 or 4 day trip that includes beach time, nightlife and a game with their team. Every sport. Every game. For fucks sake it even happens for spring training games in the two stadiums here in SWFL.

So until the weather in LA changes and the beaches and nightlife go away fans are going to show up. They are showing up in a dumpy stadium. Surely more will show up for a shiny new one.

This is ALWAYS going to be a problem in some markets. Again, come down here and go to ANY game and you will see a lot of opposing fans. A LOT. People here in this thread will tell you that when the Rams have been in Tampa probably 25-30% of the fans were cheering for the Rams. And that was when they SUCKED. Hell I drove 6 hours round trip two different times to go see them. On a few occasions several members of this board met up in Tampa and they will back up what I am saying.

I'm originally from Cleveland, this kind of thing didn't happen there because there weren't millions (literally) of people from somewhere else within driving distance of the stadium and people flying in to enjoy the beaches/casinos/bars/etc for a few days.

This is NEVER going to change. It's been like this for years and years in a few markets. This isn't some new thing.

 

[FrantikRam]

When it comes to the Packers and Steelers, this just doesn't bother me. At all.

Assume that those two fanbases will make it about 50/50.

Now factor in that the Dodgers were playing in the world series and it's possible a Rams fan could sell their ticket to pay for a world series ticket.....I'm betting few of us prefer baseball, but there are far more Rams fans outside of this board than there are on it and it was probably some of those fans that sold their tickets. I have zero problem with it.

 

[RamFan503]

Well, roll your eyes all you want but I also heard it loud and clear and going on pretty much the whole game.
It was embarrassing and the Packers fans were just eating it up like it was a big joke right up until the Ty Montgomery fumble.

Yeah no. I was also watching that game and though the pecker fans made a fair bit of noise, it's not as much as it's being made up to be.

It was a bit more early on as the Rams came out flat. But even though a few of the players tried to get their base to turn up the volume, it had little effect. And the go pack go thing sounded like an unorganized smattering of fans. It's being way over played as it has become a narrative that appears to only get pointed at the Rams.

Lots of stadiums are having attendance issues. That means their own fans are not showing up. The difference? Tickets to a game in LA are a hot ticket - even moreso as the Rams are the team to beat. When the NFL went to tickets sold rather than turnstile numbers, actual attendance took a back seat. So when they show 98% attendance, there are still a shitload of empty seats for most games.

Sure a few cities have great local attendance. But as Les said, it's just not reality to think football fans won't travel to destination areas to watch a game. It's just something you have to deal with if you are in one of them. And whether anyone wants to admit it or not, when a traveling fan base has good numbers, they are simply loud.

When we went to the opening day game in St Louis, it started out sounding like there were more shecock fans than Rams fans. There were a lot of them and they were very loud but there were more Rams fans and we ended up drowning them out. That is what I heard last Sunday and I'm sure the players did as well. Were the pecker fans louder than probably any away team crowd the Rams had heard before? Probably. So I buy that they were truly bothered by it? Meh. They probably would prefer an enormous home crowd noise. But if they really get bothered by it, it's time for a reality check.

 

[badnews]

Yeah no. I was also watching that game and though the pecker fans made a fair bit of noise, it's not as much as it's being made up to be.

It was a bit more early on as the Rams came out flat. But even though a few of the players tried to get their base to turn up the volume, it had little effect. And the go pack go thing sounded like an unorganized smattering of fans. It's being way over played as it has become a narrative that appears to only get pointed at the Rams.

Lots of stadiums are having attendance issues. That means their own fans are not showing up. The difference? Tickets to a game in LA are a hot ticket - even moreso as the Rams are the team to beat. When the NFL went to tickets sold rather than turnstile numbers, actual attendance took a back seat. So when they show 98% attendance, there are still a shitload of empty seats for most games.

Sure a few cities have great local attendance. But as Les said, it's just not reality to think football fans won't travel to destination areas to watch a game. It's just something you have to deal with if you are in one of them. And whether anyone wants to admit it or not, when a traveling fan base has good numbers, they are simply loud.

When we went to the opening day game in St Louis, it started out sounding like there were more shecock fans than Rams fans. There were a lot of them and they were very loud but there were more Rams fans and we ended up drowning them out. That is what I heard last Sunday and I'm sure the players did as well. Were the pecker fans louder than probably any away team crowd the Rams had heard before? Probably. So I buy that they were truly bothered by it? Meh. They probably would prefer an enormous home crowd noise. But if they really get bothered by it, it's time for a reality check.

This what I know -
It was embarrassing and that it caught the attention of everybody watching and when local fans, non fans, national media and our own Coach points it out, its not just a few people being irrationally bothered by it.
I've been to a few and seen plenty of games in St Louis on TV that were embarrassing there too. Nobody held their tongue pointing it out either, but those teams weren't even decent, let alone undefeated contenders.
I didnt mean to get pulled back in but the comment about rolling eyes got me... It was bad. Nobody has to like it and nobody should try to convince everyone that there is nothing to see here...
It was what it was and as long as nobody has to pretend it was perfectly normal, I am sure the topic will die out and disappear.

The topic is toxic. People are wary of any opinion on it having an agenda.

 

[Ram65]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsAqFquL468


Condensed version of the game.

Packer fans louder early on. After that is was close to the same. It was a pumped up atmosphere.

I'm sure McVay wanted to hear the home crowd louder for the Rams on defense and not on offense. He wants honest advantages for his Rams. I'm sure the players want to have a home field advantage. I know Rams fans would like that too.

It is what it is. Seems a lot about making money back on season tixs in one or two games. I get it and can't say I wouldn't to the same or just watch on TV @ home and not buy Tix to begin with.

Some teams do travel well. The Packers travel well and have a nice base in SoCal. At least the Rams fans that were there represented. I don't know if it will ever change even with the new stadium.

 

[Rmfnlt]

I love my Rams, but all is not forgotten around here and they still need to woo the new fans.

I dunno... what's it gonna take?

They orchestrate one of the biggest turn-arounds in NFL history last year and make the playoffs.

They start off 2018-2019 at 8 - 0.

What's it gonna take to "forget"? What do they have to do? Comments like those really confound me.

 

[Rmfnlt]

Finesse is a good thing, no? That's how I got my wife to marry me.

I thought it was begging...