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McShay Mocks Us Ty Simpson At 13
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You are on an absolute heater right now!
And Im here for it!!
duanevalle22
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I think you may be over exaggerating: It's like when you say Merry Christmas to some older white folks and they respond "you can still say that?"...... Just so immature.
Blazing Saddles ....Why not??? When that movie was made most folks hid their racist / prejudice views. Today that movie would make tons of money with some folks that are very open about their prejudices / racism.... And you'll have some of the nut case lefties that will go see it just to have something to complain about.... But in spite of those certain mindsets it's still a great movie.
I watched that movie with my pops and enjoyed it, and I would enjoy watching it today. The premise of Blazing Saddles is no different than Hidden Figures.... Some just like to bake in a personal perception in something that isn't really there, when both movies are a life lesson... With one having a large dose comedy to it.
Where's the fun in that? Call your shot!
I'm certain Simpson is a 1st round pick and called that months ago.
Well, I meant to say why have 2 back-up QBs with similar abilities. Simpson and Bennett are the same except Simpson is taller but same arm strength. Bennett might have better escapability than Simpson.
And I was focusing on his preseason performance last year where I think he threw one bad pass.
If they can get this defense right we're a title team.
I know McVay wants his pass game toy, and I do think taking one of these wideouts early is worth it. But if we were to prioritize things solely on playoff potency it would be corners then lines before everything else. Meaning both lines.
OL they could get away with making 4 of them play out their pre-FA seasons and I think there would actually be benefit to that in terms of getting everything they have. But chances are we're looking at them choosing one or two OL to lock up longer term this offseason to lessen the work required after the season.
DL we can't afford to have our run defense shit the bed when Ford misses time. So one run stuffer is in order, and if Young leaves in FA we need at the very least another Edge for the pipeline.
So if I had to rank out needs for playoff potency alone...
1. Corner.
2. Corner.
3. DL snot bubbler.
4. Swing OT.
5. Swing Edge.
6. iOL.
Which is why I think you take WR at the top to ensure Stafford has plenty of firepower. Then hit the above hard. And hopefully one or two of those above are taken care of prior to the draft in FA.
Last season stats that I found - 8 TDs to 2 INTs and a 105.7 passer rating. Doesn't seem too bad for a back-up QB. And most people were honestly impressed by how he had improved and the confidence he was playing with. I believe that is better than any but 1 season Garoppolo has had in his entire career - and by a fair margin. Granted, Jimmy was playing against first stringers but Stetson wasn't doing it all against 2nd and 3rds. Last season, I believe the Chargers played most of their 1st string defense for almost the whole game and Dallas played theirs for more than a half.
I'm all for improving on Stetson but I'm just not convinced Simpson is that improvement. In fact, I think he would be a step down from what we already have.
I know a lot of people are down on Stetson. He's too small. He had to take a year off for non-football reasons. He was a turnover machine in one of those rookie preseason games. All of that criticism is valid. But so is the view that he played quite well in his true sophomore pre-season games last year.
His college achievements are far superior to Simpson's and he has had to blow through barriers his entire football life. I'll take that over someone who looked good for half a season in college and who looked quite overwhelmed in the only big games he played.
Yep. And I'll add that my only concern with Simpson would be blowing a high pick on him. It would be a lot more risk than I prefer, given the short sample size, and then he ends up sitting the pine.
Rams can find a development type midrounds in this draft. Or there are smaller potential QB2 types as well in that range. There is no need to take a guy who has a good chance to end up as a QB2 in the first round. Particularly when you have the QB now.
To be fair (and I have no dog in this fight), if you are comparing college stats - Bennett was way older and played longer. So you’d need to compare Bennett’s 2020 year. That’s when he was 22 during the season like Simpson and his first year getting starts. Bennett’s 2020 was not good: 55.5% and 8/6 TD/INT
I don’t think people outside of this board are looking at Simpson as a player you’re taking to be a QB2. You take a late guy with hopes to develop into a QB2, you spend early guys you hope to develop into QB1. My biggest fear is we go all in, Stafford retires at the end of the season, then we’re constantly putting ourself out of position for the better QBs, when we currently have the ability to spend a pick and develop a future QB1, while still having a first round pick to focus elsewhere. This team doesn’t have a ton of holes, has cap space, and has enough picks to solidify the roster. Why not grab a guy that has the talent, and is already above most on presnap adjustments, then have him sit behind a hall of fame QB, getting coached by a hall of fame coach, and taking over with a stacked team? If any time to take a player like Simpson, it’s now
The only reason one would feel inclined to compare years by age would be if the player is in a position with a short shelf life. Barring that, it really doesn't matter, because where a guy is at one age in his development can have so much to do with the team around him, coaching, etc, that it ends up being apples and oranges to at least some extent.
This is why I thought all the negative press on Shough was fucking stupid last year. The dude is a pocket QB with good size and arm who can deal back there, which means his shelf life is potentially well into his late thirties. I could care fucking less if he's the same age as QBs with playoff experience because what I'd want as a team without a QB is a functioning QB.
Correct and this is part of the problem in the overall board take on him. People are stuck on his early season performance at Bama, with a top quality team around him. They are essentially ignoring the fact he sat the bench for years prior. They are ignoring his performance vs equivalently talented defenses. And they are ignoring the fact he completely wilted in the big game, not to mention that the moment his backup came into the game the OL and players started to fire off and looked much better.
Meanwhile a smallish QB like Klubnik who had a pretty good season in '24, and more starts and seasonings, is properly held accountable by being listed as a midrounds QB. And I'll add that he's undoubtedly the best pocket feel QB in this class. I can't count how many times that dude made the first rusher miss in his '25 film. Rushers coming in from blown blocks left and right.
Nuss is the same. He's cited midrounds and rightly so. But the dude had all manner of shit working against him in '25.
These two dudes are very similar to Simpson. Nuss I would worry more about the arm strength. But all three are probably QB2s in the NFL. Again, the sample size and failure on Simpson's part to put a full season together of that level means he's not worthy of the first round. That doesn't mean an NFL team won't take him. But if they do that doesn't prove my take wrong. Him killing it as a starter is what would make me acknowledge that I underestimated him. So we'll see how his career goes.
If you're talking about Bennett's pre-season numbers, I saw 5 TDs and 2 Int.s in the two games he played ... vs. Dallas and the Chargers. Strong numbers, and his passer rating was indeed over 100. However, I did not recognize many names of opponent defensive players in the box scores.
As for the prior two years' pre-season games, I saw 3 TDs and 8 Interceptions.
Pre-season stats can be miss-leading but often when I watched Bennett play in the pre-season, I would think ... one good decision and/or pass followed by a poor decision and/or pass.
To be fair, I absolutely hated that fourth round selection in 2023, so objective I am not.
Except that Simpson couldn't beat out a 3rd rounder in Milroe and now after one decent year he's a first rounder? Yeah. Not buying it.
And now we look at where they are now. I think Bennett is actually better than Simpson RIGHT NOW and I don't think Simpson is franchise QB quality so I don't see an upside to drafting him. I'd rather take a shot at a QB like Cole Payton knowing he won't be ready for at least a year and work with having Bennett or another cheap vet as back-up while a QB with real potential upside learns from McVay, Stafford, and NFL coaches.
I was comparing BOTH age and starts. I agree age is a lesser concern. But the starts is comparable. What would Simpson’s stats look like if he returned for another two years in college? We’ll never know. But saying SB stats were better in college is not a good way to compare the two.
For the record, I’m not a Simpson fan. I truly hope someone else drafts him.
Right on and I wasn't busting your chops there, rather just pointing out that age itself has to be related via position shelf life.
Funny thing you mention what Simpson's stats would look like if he returned for another two years in college. Because the first thing he'd have to do is enter the portal, as that backup is a better QB than he is and will be taking the reins in '26.
Just gonna say one more time that if McVay takes Simpson, even at 13, I'll deal and get behind it. I may be very irritated by it. But I would understand him deciding that Simpson is the best bet because I am sure he will nuke these boys and in the end McVay having a QB he likes and can work with is important.
I think the ideal option in this draft for the Rams is probably Cole Payton. Draft him midrounds and park his talented ass on the bench so he can watch a badass do his thing and learn from it.
But I suspect the Rams will prioritize someone they think can take the QB2 job after a one year wait behind Bennett. Not sure that's Payton. Probably one of the smallish QB2 types in this draft fit that better.
Yeah - I saw 5/2 and then when I searched for specific stats, it gave me a lot more info as well and that is where it showed 8/2. So of course I'm going with the stat that favored my argument. I don't pay all that much attention to preseason games but in what I did watch, he looked vastly improved and actually quite good this last season. Did he maybe have 3 rushing TDs? I'm not trying to say Bennett is our next #1. I just don't think Simpson is either and I - like you - don't see spending the kind of draft capital it would take to grab a likely back-up only.
I always wondered about that when it came to college football.
Did Simpson receive a legit shot to beat out Milroe or was it already presumed the vet Milroe was the starter? I wondered the same about Manning and Ewers or Trinidad Chambliss and Austin Simmons or even far back as Cardale Miller backing up Braxton Miller & J.T. Barrett when the former were clearly better when given the opportunity.
NFL too, I guess.
Doubtful Kurt Warner got a legit shot vs. Trent Green or Tom Brady got one vs. Drew Bledsoe? No time for a legit competition and just the fate of injuries. Oh well.
One things for sure, Simpson in his limited time was much better than Milroe was when he played.