Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[PhillyRam]

Not a fan of Shough. He's got all the tools but I just don't get excited watching his film.

If McVay likes him though that's good enough for me. But my own preferences at the position require a QB who is courageous in the pocket, regardless of whether he's an athlete or not. I view athleticism as an advantage, but not when it means they cannot stand in the pocket with courage and see downfield.

I prefer Dart, I just fear he will go early with Milroe falling off.

 

[Flatlyner]

Completely agree with that approach. If you can't get Dart, I saw a mock with the Jets taking him at 7, take a flyer on Shough. He is moving up and could be an early 3rd. I saw Cosell on Colin Cowherd, he said he was very intrigued by Shough, but he was still evaluating him.

Shough could be better and can be had cheaper (likely). I've watch some throws he has made, and he certainly has arm talent.

 

[dieterbrock]

I think because he's set to bring home an average annual salary over the next two years that begins with the number 2.

Because he was pre-paid in the form of a signing bonus. That's how contracts work. He's being paid 40 mill per season

 

[PhillyRam]

Shough could be better and can be had cheaper (likely). I've watch some throws he has made, and he certainly has arm talent.

Yeah, just have to hope the two broken clavicles were just a case where the 2nd one was due to not being healed.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I'm not sure how it would be disingenuous. If one poor pass constitutes shitting the bed then virtually every QB shits the bed every week. The QB needs to step up and make a lot more good plays than bad and you hope they don't throw picks. Defenders drop passes all the time. That's generally why they are not receivers. Matthew balled out most of the game and had to escape sacks several times. He finished with a QB rating above 96 with almost a 70% completion %. How in any definition is that shitting the bed? A couple arrant throws? That's a pretty harsh litmus test. Your boy G-string threw for a little over 50% and should have had 3 INTs. He got lucky on 2.

You seem to think McVay should be able to get Grabmypole to get us to the promise land if he is as good as Sham-ahan. Yet Shammy and his QBs seem to shit the bed on the regular in clutch situations.

Sorry. But Stafford is still an elite QB and gives you a far better chance at winning the big games than almost any QB in the league and certainly more so than any rookie. G-string and other lower level QBs give you a chance to win some games with a stacked roster while choking in big games ala Darnold. Stafford gives you a chance to win with his grit combined with his skill.

The Rams were down three in the 4th quarter and the defense had just made a big stop and got the ball back with the team having no challenges or timeouts left. On the very first offense play afterwards Stafford throws that punt that Tartt dropped which could have very well changed the game. It didn't and that's great. But, IMO that's crapping the bed in a clutch situation. Unlike some, I can't completely ignore how horrible a play that was for Stafford just because it worked out for the Rams.

If the tables were turned and Garoppolo had completed 70% of his passes with a QB rating above 96, throws the same punt and the Rams defender makes that pick, and the Rams go on to win the game probably just about everyone here would say that Garoppolo crapped the bed. But, we can't say it because it's Stafford and things worked out for the Rams. OK.

Next. Garoppolo is not my boy. I just have confidence that if Shanahan can get to 3 Championship Games & a Super Bowl with him at QB, then McVay could have success with him, too. In no way does that mean that I believe that he's a better option than Stafford.

That said, it wouldn't just be Garoppolo vs. Stafford.
It would be Garoppolo & the players obtained and kept due to trade compensation and cap savings vs. Stafford.

Again, Stafford already is set to count right about or over $50 million against the salary cap for the next couple of seasons with only about $62 million scheduled as salary and bonuses for those next TWO SEASONS. And this is before he gets let's say 2 years at $110 fully guaranteed (per Giants fan sources). The Rams have a very tough decision on whether to do or how to structure a deal as it could possiby cost them other players either this year or in the future.

The first domino might even be Alaric Jackson if they can't work out a long term deal before the new business season begins and want to consider a franchise tag option at about a $25 million or so cap number due to the weakness of the LT draft and free agency class. That option may be off the table altogether depending upon what happens.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Memphis can speak for himself but I certainly have read his comments to say if the Rams have to move on from Stafford, the Rams could compete with Garopolo, and should be able to based on the other examples.

Yeah, that's how I read him too. This is also my stance. Stafford is by far option #1 for me, but I don't think we're doomed to being uncompetitive if we go with plan B.

Thanks. That's exactly what I'm saying.

But, hey I'm jumped into threads late before too and have come to wrong conclusions as to what is being said. It happens.

 

[dang]

Imagine he does become our starter? I'll be pissed off the mods ban calling him GrabMyPole, Jimmy Bluepill, G String, or any other variation! Lmao I'll still root for him wearing a G String




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I believe I coined “Jimmy G-String”. It’s a term of endearment that I think he earned it. Has nothing to do with his football capabilities.

 

[Memphis Ram]

View: https://x.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1891903838656844177

 

[PhillyRam]

Shough could be better and can be had cheaper (likely). I've watch some throws he has made, and he certainly has arm talent.

Yeah, his highlights look great. Great arm, looks like a mobile version of Goff.

Makes you wonder if the Rams put off part 2 of the Stafford talks until after the combine because at that point they should have good idea of where the QBs will go in terms of rounds. In other words maybe Dart vaults up into the top 12. Maybe Shough moves into the first or at least becomes a viable option at 26 or in the early 2nd after a trade back or if you get a 2nd for Stafford etc...


View: https://youtu.be/SOX2TEq3rjg?si=9h3pLK2og_y9p6qV

 

[DzRams]

Shough could be better and can be had cheaper (likely). I've watch some throws he has made, and he certainly has arm talent.

There are injury concerns with Shough and from what I've heard, he lacks head talent - he struggles processing. That's the most important criteria.

 

[Ram_Rally]

View: https://x.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1891903838656844177

Just makes so little sense for Stafford. If he agreed to that trade I'd assume it was about the money.

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah, his highlights look great. Great arm, looks like a mobile version of Goff.

Makes you wonder if the Rams put off part 2 of the Stafford talks until after the combine because at that point they should have good idea of where the QBs will go in terms of rounds. In other words maybe Dart vaults up into the top 12. Maybe Shough moves into the first or at least becomes a viable option at 26 or in the early 2nd after a trade back or if you get a 2nd for Stafford etc...


View: https://youtu.be/SOX2TEq3rjg?si=9h3pLK2og_y9p6qV

Dane Brugler who knows his draft stuff has Shough #59 on his top 100.

 

[OldSchool]

There are injury concerns with Shough and from what I've heard, he lacks head talent - he struggles processing. That's the most important criteria.

I'm curious where you heard this? I've read/listened to a lot on him and have yet to hear this.

 

[dieterbrock]

Dane Brugler who knows his draft stuff has Shough #59 on his top 100.

I brought up Shough a while back. I really like the kid's tenacity and his ability to throw from different arm angles. He threw a TD pass against ND this year that was absolutely Stafford-esque

 

[ottoman89]

Yeah, his highlights look great. Great arm, looks like a mobile version of Goff.

Makes you wonder if the Rams put off part 2 of the Stafford talks until after the combine because at that point they should have good idea of where the QBs will go in terms of rounds. In other words maybe Dart vaults up into the top 12. Maybe Shough moves into the first or at least becomes a viable option at 26 or in the early 2nd after a trade back or if you get a 2nd for Stafford etc...


View: https://youtu.be/SOX2TEq3rjg?si=9h3pLK2og_y9p6qV

I would assume they want it done before that.

 

[PhillyRam]

I would assume they want it done before that.

I thought I had read that they were going to resume talks after the combine?

 

[thirteen28]

I'm curious where you heard this? I've read/listened to a lot on him and have yet to hear this.

She told him:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBtLPWeKbU

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Just makes so little sense for Stafford. If he agreed to that trade I'd assume it was about the money.

Stafford does not have a no trade clause

 

[Ram_Rally]

Stafford does not have a no trade clause

I'm sure any team that trades for him has to be wary that he might decide to retire if he doesn't approve of his destination.

 

[Boston Ram]

I'm curious where you heard this? I've read/listened to a lot on him and have yet to hear this.

May have got it here: https://www.daftondraft.football/p/nfl-draft-tyler-shough-accuracy-ball-placement-profile

The Achilles heel in Shough’s accuracy and ball placement profile, and the unironic reason I have a hangup, is his inaccuracy working the short game. What I’ve found is that the majority of lapses in the short game stem from the inability to get the ball out on time. Shough is no different in this regard.

It’s an automatic floor sinker when a quarterback cannot operate on time, and only Alabama’s Jalen Milroe has a worse on-target percentage under 10 yards in this class. It makes me question just how quickly Shough is digesting information post-snap.

Never know who these people are on the internet but the link is an interesting read. Could be some hack for all I know, so dont shoot the messenger . Overall the person doing this eval like the player alot.