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Elmgrovegnome said:
I don’t like Rodgers as a person, but he looked good on the field at the end of the season and he knows the offense. I don’t hate the idea of Garapolo but his recent injuries are a concern and Rodgers is still the better of the two players. Plus Rodgers brings a ton of attention with him. I often feel that the Rams are under appreciated by the media.



And if he’s looking at Detroit he could be saying “It could happen anywhere.”
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Yeah, Rodgers is annoying but he was a great talent once. Def better at the end of year last year than the beginning though. Notoriously butted heads with LaFleur in GB and McVay is known not to have LaFleur's touch with QBs (part of reason Goff's relationship started to deteriorate with McVay was LaFleur wasn't there as a go between).

Sure, McVay has great rapport with his players but he's been reported to ride his QBs hard and not sure that will work with Rodgers.

I'm more intrigued by Rodgers as a talent than Jimmy but actually think that the marriage of McVay and Rodgers would be worse than Jimmy.
 
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majrleaged said:
It wouldn't be the first time Bean counters "did what is best for the team" and fucked up a company.
There are these very important things that never get entered into the equation when money becomes the most important thing. They are called intangibles. Stafford has all the intangibles that Jimmy G and most other QBs talked about in this thread don't have. Plus the physical ability they don't have. I will be more disappointed with my team if they trade Stafford, then when they traded Dickerson.

The team that trades away the star never gets back enough to make up for the hole that is left. Unless your Jimmy Johnson.

I am hopeful that all this is just two parties negotiating to get the best deal both sides want and will get done so the Rams can focus on what else they need.
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Don't forget about the agent "bean counters" and convince the players that the money is the most important thing.
 
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Londoner said:
I'd take 6 and 37 for him, if he's not happy with his contract.
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A more realistic return is their 2nd and 3rd…and a 2nd (or 3rd next year). I don’t think you get that high of a first unless the raiders are so desperate. Even then, it’s likely a swap a 26 for 6 trade + 37 (etc).

How many times have we traded guys and the return has been much less than expected. I think the Jets/Rodgers trade is more in line with reality. Then again, it does take just one team to overpay.
 
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Ram Ts said:
A more realistic return is their 2nd and 3rd…and a 2nd (or 3rd next year). I don’t think you get that high of a first unless the raiders are so desperate. Even then, it’s likely a swap a 26 for 6 trade + 37 (etc).

How many times have we traded guys and the return has been much less than expected. I think the Jets/Rodgers trade is more in line with reality. Then again, it does take just one team to overpay.
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Yeah, I think the Jets/Rodgers trade is the starting point. Granted, some have argued that teams might get desperate so there's always a chance of an overpay but not likely.
 
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Ram Ts said:
A more realistic return is their 2nd and 3rd…and a 2nd (or 3rd next year). I don’t think you get that high of a first unless the raiders are so desperate. Even then, it’s likely a swap a 26 for 6 trade + 37 (etc).

How many times have we traded guys and the return has been much less than expected. I think the Jets/Rodgers trade is more in line with reality. Then again, it does take just one team to overpay.
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Good points.
One thing could be possible that the Rodgers situation didn’t have, and that is a potential bidding war for his services.
Now best case scenario is that Stafford is able to work out a deal and stay but if he is getting traded, I would hope that the teams mentioned as nauseam would compete for his services
That’s how a team could overpay
 
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WestCoastRam said:
Yeah, I think the Jets/Rodgers trade is the starting point. Granted, some have argued that teams might get desperate so there's always a chance of an overpay but not likely.
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Yeah, I think this is 95% the rams FO letting Stanford’s agent find & set the financial market for them to come to an extension.

But also the rare possibility (5%) someone desperately wants him and blows us away with a top 10 pick. From there you have so many options. You can trade back 5-20 picks and get someone’s 2026 1st. You can even trade one of these 2025 1st for a teams 2026 first+ and now you have 3 first in 2026 for a potential QB trade next year. But that’s all unlikely. Resigning with rams on a 2-3 extension is by far the likely scenario and what both parties truly want imo.
 
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WE GOT TO 100 PAGES!

Do I hear a 125, a 125? 125 going once, going twice...
 
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Memento said:
WE GOT TO 100 PAGES!
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El Chapo Jr said:
You can't be mad at the Rams looking at this logically. If Stafford is asking for a contract so big that we can't even sign other free agents, we'll essentially field the same or worse team due to our lack of cap to add talent. Add that to the fact that Stafford is 37 and probably 2 years at most from retiring or falling off a cliff, that makes it extremely reasonable for the Rams to take the stance they are. If you ask me, it feels like emotion is the biggest obstacle a lot of fans have about him possibly being traded. We all want Stafford back, no question, but the price matters since all teams have to operate with a cap. So getting pissed at bean counters and comparing it to a private company is a little off base to me. The Rams have been one of the best front offices amd have arguably the best coach. I'm going to trust their judgement.
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I doubt Stafford is asking for the moon and the Rams are not known for being penny pinchers. So all this to this point is probably just negotiating.
 
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Psycho_X said:
Man, will Tom Brady just fucking go away or die or something?


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Eh, I dunno.
Stafford, as far as I know, isn't some 18 year old Brady fan boy. I'd like to think that he'd more want to hear from the HC and OC than some man-cheerleader.

As for that HC, is Petey an example of Brady's recruiting skills or was he hired without Brady's input? People were saying that Brady's recruiting skills would help the Raiders land Ben Johnson, right? How''d that go?

What's Petey going to sell Stafford on, anyways? Elite gum chewing and the promise of becoming the next Russell Wilson? This would be a bit of a downgrade, going from McVay to Petey.

As for the OC, if there's one thing Chip did not do, it's recruit. Dude was a zero/negative as far as recruiting - he didn't recruit with OU or UCLA, and turned off pro-players in Philly. Dude hasn't been in the League for a while and spent parts of last year getting heat for not utilizing OSU's NFL-caliber WRs. Brady, as man-cheerleader, would have to overcome Chip to land Stafford. Don't see it.

If Stafford goes to LV, it's about the Benjamins, not the Brady.

Edit: #QuestFor200
 
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Things that should be acknowledged:

1. The Rams dead money hit from a trade is so high that it demands a very high return in draft/player compensation.

2. No team will want to cough up that capital AND a pay raise for Stafford without a 3+ year commitment.

3. Stafford can effectively veto any trade by not being willing to negotiate with the trade team (and leaving them to guess when he might retire).

Given all this, a trade is extremely unlikely unless the trading team is desperate. The Rams aren't desperate and neither is Stafford.
 
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Turducken said:
Things that should be acknowledged:

1. The Rams dead money hit from a trade is so high that it demands a very high return in draft/player compensation.

2. No team will want to cough up that capital AND a pay raise for Stafford without a 3+ year commitment.

3. Stafford can effectively veto any trade by not being willing to negotiate with the trade team (and leaving them to guess when he might retire).

Given all this, a trade is extremely unlikely unless the trading team is desperate. The Rams aren't desperate and neither is Stafford.
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Over and over again, Stafford doesn't have a no trade clause and doubt he'll veto a trade if money is his biggest motivation.
 
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