Kupp informed Rams seeking to trade him

[Zodi]

Nothing feels good about this but it's an opportunity for Whittington to claim the slot role. Will be curious if he can improve on a limited showing last year.

There's a world where Rams focus on positions at pass catcher outside of slot because of him.

If the result of trading Kupp is relying on Whittington as a WR2, we're going to be in for a very long season.

 

[OntarioRam]

How does everyone know Kupp refused to re-structure? That is my speculation as well. But that is all it is. Speculation. Is there a source?

Re: Kupp's leadership and mentorship, and how great it was for Puka, and how Cooper's value goes beyond pure statistics - I love Whittington's game and have been on record as thinking he is ready to be not only a starter, but a high impact one. I'd go so far as to say I think he can be a strong WR2 behind Puka based on what I have seen so far. Every time he gets the ball, he looks incredible. He seems to have the size, speed, hands, brains, and intangibles. All that said, I am still optimistic on Whittington, but a bit less confident now in a rocketship-esque ascendance, with Cooper Kupp no longer in that WR room. Puka is amazing but he is still somewhat inexperienced himself. And jury is out if he is a good teacher. Not all that can do can teach. Being frank, and this is all speculative just based on what I see via social media as an outsider, I do not think Puka has the same natural tutoring and mentorship capabilities as #10...

 

[WestCoastRam]

If the result of trading Kupp is relying on Whittington as a WR2, we're going to be in for a very long season.

Better pee before the season starts than...

 

[WestCoastRam]

How does everyone know Kupp refused to re-structure? That is my speculation as well. But that is all it is. Speculation. Is there a source?

Re: Kupp's leadership and mentorship, and how great it was for Puka, and how Cooper's value goes beyond pure statistics - I love Whittington's game and have been on record as thinking he is ready to be not only a starter, but a high impact one. I'd go so far as to say I think he can be a strong WR2 behind Puka based on what I have seen so far, every time he gets the ball, he looks incredible. I am still optimistic, but less confident now, with Cooper Kupp no longer in that WR room. Puka is amazing but he is still somewhat inexperienced himself. And jury is out if he is a good teacher. Not all that can do can teach. Being frank, and this is all speculative just based on what I see via social media as an outsider, I do not think Puka has the same natural tutoring and mentorship capabilities as #10...

According to Jourdan they did not ask to restructure

 

[Ram_Rally]

huh? They can cut him right now and save money on the cap.

22 million in dead money vs 7 million in savings doesn't seem all that.

 

[OntarioRam]

If the result of trading Kupp is relying on Whittington as a WR2, we're going to be in for a very long season.

Don't count him out! I still think he will be incredible if given a chance. But cruelly, without Kupp, it is less of a sure bet in my view.

 

[OldSchool]

22 million in dead money vs 7 million in savings doesn't seem all that.

It's cap savings and they can get out of the contract. That's what you wished the Rams did.

 

[OntarioRam]

According to Jourdan they did not ask to restructure

Big mistake if true IMO. I love that the Rams are always aggressively trying to improve the roster and keeping an eye to the future. "Better 1 year early than 1 year late". But at times, it really does feel they take that mantra and follow it an myopic fashion.

 

[OldSchool]

Big mistake if true IMO. I love that the Rams are always aggressively trying to improve the roster and keeping an eye to the future. "Better 1 year early than 1 year late". But at times, it really does feel they take that mantra and follow it an myopic fashion.

Restructuring just keeps putting money into the future and I'm wondering if the Rams are souring on that for older injured players.

 

[pvtdragon39]

This is just unequivocally false. Throughout the last few weeks of the season, I posted several examples of Stafford either locking onto Puka or risking a throw to another receiver when Kupp was wide open.

Kupp will go for 1300yds and 10 TDs this year. Bookmark it.

This will come back and bite us in the ass. We are going 6-11 next year. This is going to kill morale on the team. Our record is bad without kupp out there.

He was purposely held doing fullback duties and not his fault he didn't have 1000 yards.

 

[Ram_Rally]

It's cap savings and they can get out of the contract. That's what you wished the Rams did.

You're missing my original point. 29 million was a lot to commit to a receiver at 31. Even if you're getting back 7. Look at Tyreek Hill's contact for example. If they cut him next year (age 31) they'll have 15 million in dead money but 36 million in cap savings. That's how I'm used to most contacts being structured.

 

[Zodi]

This will come back and bite us in the ass. We are going 6-11 next year. This is going to kill morale on the team. Our record is bad without kupp out there.

He was purposely held doing fullback duties and not his fault he didn't have 1000 yards.

Exactly. If he is traded to a team where his singular purpose is the pass game, dude is going to tear it up.

 

[Zodi]

Does anyone have the feeling that this FO is still weary about holding onto players for too long based on how the Gurley situation ended? It just seems that since then, they are quick to let good players walk instead of waiting for the decline, which isn't necessarily guaranteed. Granted, I think it was smart to move on from Ramsey and Jones, but I don't know... I don't have that feeling about Kupp. I think he still has a good three to four years of high production in this league.

 

[WestCoastRam]

If the result of trading Kupp is relying on Whittington as a WR2, we're going to be in for a very long season.

Okay, wait, I think you changed it to WR2, so I agree with this sentiment.

But I can see them going after an X, TE, or RB and leaving slot to Whittington.

 

[Jacobarch]

How does everyone know Kupp refused to re-structure? That is my speculation as well. But that is all it is. Speculation. Is there a source?

Re: Kupp's leadership and mentorship, and how great it was for Puka, and how Cooper's value goes beyond pure statistics - I love Whittington's game and have been on record as thinking he is ready to be not only a starter, but a high impact one. I'd go so far as to say I think he can be a strong WR2 behind Puka based on what I have seen so far. Every time he gets the ball, he looks incredible. He seems to have the size, speed, hands, brains, and intangibles. All that said, I am still optimistic on Whittington, but a bit less confident now in a rocketship-esque ascendance, with Cooper Kupp no longer in that WR room. Puka is amazing but he is still somewhat inexperienced himself. And jury is out if he is a good teacher. Not all that can do can teach. Being frank, and this is all speculative just based on what I see via social media as an outsider, I do not think Puka has the same natural tutoring and mentorship capabilities as #10...

Very simple answer. As a business owner you come into every negotiation with every option on the table. If you don't then you run the risk of making a mistake. So the rams definitely made an offer he just didn't accept it. The only possible scenario that the rams didn't make an offer is if they get a 3rd round pick and dumping his salary. And that's not happening.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Tee Higgins or Darius Slayton. Your time fellas.

 

[PhillyRam]

We will trade him to Chargers for a 6th and then at the trade deadline the Chargers will trade him to Seattle for a 3rd.... just a thought.

 

[PhillyRam]

I am guessing the Rams would jump at a 5th rd pick to fill the gap they have between the 4th & their three 6ths.

 

[DzRams]

According to Jourdan they did not ask to restructure

That's pretty enlightening in itself.

 

[OldSchool]

We will trade him to Chargers for a 6th and then at the trade deadline the Chargers will trade him to Seattle for a 3rd.... just a thought.

Once a team pays his $12.5 million roster bonus he's worth more in a trade.