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I see no one wants to call The OC out?? Yes the OC’s name is Kevin O’Connell. I see Ram Fans are blaming Reeder & The Rams defense for not getting the Ball back.

The Rams start the game 3 & out & then have 3rd & 4 & pass it deep when they are within FG range.

Do we know blame the kicker for not trusting him & The Rams must have known they were going for it on 4th down.

Ih wait with Jared Goff’s INT he was out in a Bad Situation.His that went or came about? I did not see the game.
 

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I think you actually bring up a point worth considering Mr. So Ram. There were some questionable calls in the game and it's hard to tell if Mcvay or OC called them. We simply don't know. I for one think the deep pass to Everett on 4th down was idiotic. To much margin for error especially since Goff hasn't been hitting the deeper vertical passes this year. Plus he wasn't totally wide open. That might be on Goff or maybe he didn't think the underneath pass had as much of a chance from his vantage point.

As far as the Goff interception, it was just a great one handed catch by the defender. Goff in the postgame said he thought he could fit it in there. I don't see a play call problem there. That pick is on Goff for not reading the defense right.

All in all our Oline was getting destroyed in the first half and then getting dealt holding calls that would have been plays that made us win, so not sure how I could blame the OC.

The one question mark I have is why we are so slow to identify where the rush mismatches are and do something about it. Miami and this game were examples of not coming up with quick answers when there is an identified weakness that require extra blocking. Even our punt blocked was along the same lines. The Jets stacked the left side and we had a man unblocked. What the hell. It's like they are not paying attention to this. Or if they do it takes way too long to adjust. Mcvay usually gets it figured out by halftime but that is often too late.
 

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O'Connell is the OC in name only, McVay is pulling the strings and O'Connell is just a puppet. Can anyone remember the name of the OC when Martz was the head coach? That's what I thought!
 

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It just came to me. Correct me if I am wrong, was it Scott Linesham?
 

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I think you actually bring up a point worth considering Mr. So Ram. There were some questionable calls in the game and it's hard to tell if Mcvay or OC called them. We simply don't know. I for one think the deep pass to Everett on 4th down was idiotic. To much margin for error especially since Goff hasn't been hitting the deeper vertical passes this year. Plus he wasn't totally wide open. That might be on Goff or maybe he didn't think the underneath pass had as much of a chance from his vantage point.

As far as the Goff interception, it was just a great one handed catch by the defender. Goff in the postgame said he thought he could fit it in there. I don't see a play call problem there. That pick is on Goff for not reading the defense right.

All in all our Oline was getting destroyed in the first half and then getting dealt holding calls that would have been plays that made us win, so not sure how I could blame the OC.

The one question mark I have is why we are so slow to identify where the rush mismatches are and do something about it. Miami and this game were examples of not coming up with quick answers when there is an identified weakness that require extra blocking. Even our punt blocked was along the same lines. The Jets stacked the left side and we had a man unblocked. What the hell. It's like they are not paying attention to this. Or if they do it takes way too long to adjust. Mcvay usually gets it figured out by halftime but that is often too late.
The pick by Goff was ALL on Goff. He threw 5 to 10 yards behind the receiver too.

Did the ball slip out of his hand because it was so far off.

The receiver was open too. If Goff threw it right, it would have been a completion for 8 to 10 yards.
 

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Jared Goff says his accuracy is because of Kevin O’Connell this 2020 season.
My question also is QB coach ?
I have to many questions & just don’t know the involvement & coaching structure of all the hands involved?
Totally disagree. KO has done nothing to help Goff nor the Offense a complete dud.

As for his accuracy Goff only threw passes over 20 yards against the Jets most were 4-8 yards that is the reason his accuracy has gone up not our OC. Goff used to throw much deeper and when you do that your accuracy will dip.
 

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I’m going to be honest. I completely forgot that McVay wasn’t calling the plays! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I been yelling the wrong name this whole time at my screen!:cautious:
 

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Hard to call out O'Connell when we truly have no idea what role he actually plays. I've only seen McVay blame himself, and Goff. I've never seen anything to indicate that anyone else has any impact in decisions
 

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Totally disagree. KO has done nothing to help Goff nor the Offense a complete dud.

As for his accuracy Goff only threw passes over 20 yards against the Jets most were 4-8 yards that is the reason his accuracy has gone up not our OC. Goff used to throw much deeper and when you do that your accuracy will dip.

All solid points. Why throw deep on 3 & 4 as well when all you need is a couple more yrds to be in FG range.Mcvay went for it on 4th down,but 2 play calls to get 4yards should not be that hard from the Jets 37. The only reason they were on that side of the field was Webster’s Punt return.
 

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Your right
I think you actually bring up a point worth considering Mr. So Ram. There were some questionable calls in the game and it's hard to tell if Mcvay or OC called them. We simply don't know. I for one think the deep pass to Everett on 4th down was idiotic. To much margin for error especially since Goff hasn't been hitting the deeper vertical passes this year. Plus he wasn't totally wide open. That might be on Goff or maybe he didn't think the underneath pass had as much of a chance from his vantage point.

As far as the Goff interception, it was just a great one handed catch by the defender. Goff in the postgame said he thought he could fit it in there. I don't see a play call problem there. That pick is on Goff for not reading the defense right.

All in all our Oline was getting destroyed in the first half and then getting dealt holding calls that would have been plays that made us win, so not sure how I could blame the OC.

The one question mark I have is why we are so slow to identify where the rush mismatches are and do something about it. Miami and this game were examples of not coming up with quick answers when there is an identified weakness that require extra blocking. Even our punt blocked was along the same lines. The Jets stacked the left side and we had a man unblocked. What the hell. It's like they are not paying attention to this. Or if they do it takes way too long to adjust. Mcvay usually gets it figured out by halftime but that is often too late.
Your right on.I still have to check it out,but special teams has been it’s own issue this season at times.
 

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Hard to call out O'Connell when we truly have no idea what role he actually plays. I've only seen McVay blame himself, and Goff. I've never seen anything to indicate that anyone else has any impact in decisions

Which is FREAKING crazy in my Book.Here you have anither OC for Mcvay. This TRACK RECORD is actually worse then Jeff Fisher & Spags with Sam Bradford.
Go look at what Jared Goff has been through his whole NFL career. Name when The Rams have not had a new OC(Zero) how many QB coaches?

This Coen is an assistant that just got OC job in the Big 12?

In the offseason The Rams said the OC & DC did not go to the COMBINE to CHANGE the Offense & Defense of schemes(play books)

Mcvay is quite about things even if asked.He keeps things in house.We ALL see how Staley has done.I liked Wade,but he got lit up to many times.
 

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I’m going to be honest. I completely forgot that McVay wasn’t calling the plays! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I been yelling the wrong name this whole time at my screen!:cautious:

LMAO - that’s good.Don’t know how much is sarcasm but either way.I’m sure there are times you scratch your head.The Rams need to play Green Bay.

I’ll look to see what your predictive score is this week.I posted this week 35-13 or something like that,before that Covid thing.

This is supposed to be Playoff time!I posted this just because it is a solid Topic that NO ONE has talked about.

so as the post headline question is does KO get a Free Pass? No one is talking about having an awesome OC that is going to be POACHED after his first season like 2 others & a QB coach.
 
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This is supposed to be Playoff time!I posted this just because it is a solid Topic that NO ONE has talked about.

so as the post headline question is does KO get a Free Pass? No one is talking about having an awesome OC that is going to be POACHED after his first season like 2 others & a QB coach.

I liked Greg Olsen & was a Great hire by Mcvay.

Go around the internet & look at topics. I post from the Heart & if I get mocked it’s okay. McSnead has done AMAZINGLY in the draft without having a first round pick.

We can go all directions. I can’t wait next season to see The 2020 Draft in FULL stride.

How many comp picks.I stay on this site & this site only.If I post on a lot of topic. This will be an interesting run.

Jared Goff deserves credit & blame.The OC(KO) has to be involved. Maybe he is at home on Covid watch. How far apart are these guys. I just know I skim through games & watch plays.I watched the NE & the coverage did not show The Rams booth. Staley is down on the field & of course the THUNDER Joe Barry.
On offense I think Goff goes to the Back up WR & Coen?
 

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Which is FREAKING crazy in my Book.Here you have anither OC for Mcvay. This TRACK RECORD is actually worse then Jeff Fisher & Spags with Sam Bradford.
Go look at what Jared Goff has been through his whole NFL career. Name when The Rams have not had a new OC(Zero) how many QB coaches?

This Coen is an assistant that just got OC job in the Big 12?

In the offseason The Rams said the OC & DC did not go to the COMBINE to CHANGE the Offense & Defense of schemes(play books)

Mcvay is quite about things even if asked.He keeps things in house.We ALL see how Staley has done.I liked Wade,but he got lit up to many times.
Man, I would really like to respond but I honestly have no idea what you are saying
 

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Maybe the point is that Goff's progress is inconsistent because he's had a new OC every year?

I dunno. I'm confused like you.
 

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Man, I would really like to respond but I honestly have no idea what you are saying

Jared Goff has had new OC every year he has been with The Rams.

Sam Bradford had a strike year & a New OC almost every season of his career in between injuries.

The point being Goff gets blamed for his play,but sometimes he doesn’t deserve it.

As fans it easy to say someone sucks.Showtime just dogged him.
The thing is is there is a lot that goes into his play.
 

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Maybe the point is that Goff's progress is inconsistent because he's had a new OC every year?

I dunno. I'm confused like you.

sorry - I GO All over the map.

I wonder why we as Ram Fans don’t know much about KO (Kevin O’Connell). Who is Kevin O’Connell (KO)
& what has been his role in The Rams offense in 2020?

To me he is getting a Free Pass from the press & Rams Fans.Someone should have asked a couple questions & what is his responsibility?
 

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I personally believe OC has very little to do with Goff success or failure.

Oline is the biggest factor next is WR’s.

people think Rodgers rise back to MVP level is the new scheme, it’s Oline and healthy WR talent around him. Same with Josh Allen, all day to throw and WR’s playing lights out.

OC can maybe effect the outcome of a few games with a bad call or two.
 

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I personally believe OC has very little to do with Goff success or failure.

Oline is the biggest factor next is WR’s.

people think Rodgers rise back to MVP level is the new scheme, it’s Oline and healthy WR talent around him. Same with Josh Allen, all day to throw and WR’s playing lights out.

OC can maybe effect the outcome of a few games with a bad call or two.

All far but as a long time Ram Fan I do not agree.Mcvay vs Fisher makes a world of difference with the Offense in particular.

The Rams offensive flow has been the worst it ever has been with Sean Mcvay. Maybe the NFL is catching up with him. Could be like a lot of fans.
 

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Christmas & New Years has past & started this Post before The Jets loss when The Rams were coming off maybe there BIGGEST WIN of the 2020
season. Jared Goff to me has looked off this season.
My biggest observation has been The Play Clock & Mcvay with Timeouts.He has ALWAYS taken that RESPONSIBILITY for when a play looked right or not.In Fact this Season he Called a DeFensive Timeout that he Messed Up on late & IMO cost The Rams the game.

We’ll see what this OC has meant for The Rams soon enough. 2021 is here!