Jon Gruden to coach the Bucs in 2018?

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Scuttlebutt of Dirk Koetter for Jon Gruden swap persists
Posted by Mike Florio on December 24, 2017

One week from today, the coaching carousel will go from dormant to high speed. And one of the various vacancies (there could be anywhere from eight to 10 total) could arise in Tampa, where a termination of Dirk Koetter would continue the team’s recent two-and-out trend.

The current thinking is that G.M. Jason Licht will remain in place, but that coach Dirk Koetter will be replaced, potentially by former Bucs coach Jon Gruden.

It remains unclear whether Gruden wants to return to coaching. Indeed, it’s unclear what he wants at all. Though he initiated the chatter in 2017 by speaking openly about returning at a time when many had assumed that he’d joined Bill Cowher as guys who won’t ever be coming back, there has been no clarity regarding whether Gruden is looking to return to the Bucs, to join some other team, or to parlay interest in his coaching services into a better deal with ESPN. (Or, given Bristol’s current financial difficulties, a deal not as bad as what ESPN may want him to take.)

Whatever the Buccaneers do, the sense is that they already know what it will be. Ownership has a habit of making a move to dump a coach only when they know the name of the replacement. And so, for Koetter, the question becomes whether he returns for a third season if Gruden ultimately decides not to return to coaching.

He returned to the Bucs on Monday night, donning his visor and saying all the right things about ownership as the franchise placed him in the Ring of Honor. Few get to go to work in a place where their names already have been immortalized; that dynamic could make ownership somewhat less inclined to continue to shove a revolving door that spins after ever few full-season cycles.

Since making Gruden a surprise firing after the 2008 season, the Bucs have hired, and fired, Raheem Morris (three years), Greg Schiano (two), and Lovie Smith (two). Koetter got the job in 2016, at a time when it’s believed the Buccaneers feared that another team would hire him to be a head coach elsewhere.

The two years under Koetter have been average at best. A late-season run in 2016 helped boost expectations to an arguably unrealistic level in 2017. Now, with the Bucs possibly being the only team in the NFC South not to make the playoffs, the Glazer family may be ready to bring back the last coach who took them to the postseason.

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Jon Gruden touching base with assistant coaches about joining his staff
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 24, 2017

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Amid increasing talk that Jon Gruden will coach the Buccaneers next season, he’s taking the first steps toward compiling a staff.

Gruden has reached out to former assistants and friends in the coaching business to see if they’d be interested in joining his staff if he takes another head-coaching job, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.

That doesn’t mean Gruden is going to take another job, but it does mean he’s interested enough in the possibility that he is thinking about more than just what he’ll say if some owner offers him more money than ESPN is currently paying him.

The 54-year-old Gruden has been out of coaching for nine years, and it’s anyone’s guess how many of his past assistants would jump at the opportunity to work for him again. But he’s going to see what kind of staff he can build, even before he has a new job.
 

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I'll believe it when I see it, let him back in the league, so he can stop being the Los Angeles of Head Coaches.
 

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I don't think he goes anywhere. This is speculation.
 

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Had a thought about this, but then I saw it was a Foolio article.

Moooooving on.
 

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9yrs out of football.

Only 1 of his final 6 seasons above 9-7.

I’d be happy to have a HC who has won a Super Bowl, but that’s a long time away as HC.
 

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9yrs out of football.

Only 1 of his final 6 seasons above 9-7.

I’d be happy to have a HC who has won a Super Bowl, but that’s a long time away as HC.
Vermeil was out for 15 years before returning to the Rams. Just saying
 

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He could take his turkey hole to Tampa or Cleveland for all I care
 

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Money talks, make him an offer he can not refused if the Bucs really want him.
 

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Money talks, make him an offer he can not refused if the Bucs really want him.
This is my take...I hear he's the highest paid "talent" at espn now...curious what he brings home? $6 million...to talk about the game...sleep regular hours.....I kinda doubt he's leaving...but he was going on and on about Jameis Winston.
 

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I have a feeling Gruden would steal some of our offensive staff if he came back.
 

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Dude's been talking to staff about whether they'd be interested. That's a very strong indicator.

Re: the Bucs, I detest their ownership. So not sure that's the right team for him to return to the game with, but the Bucs do have a LOT of talent and a QB in place. And that is probably why Gruden is so interested.
 

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I honestly think he is jealous of McVays success. He wants to come back and show him up. I heard him talk about SM recently, and I heard a little bit of the green monster coming out...
 

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I'd love for him to return to TB, but I hope he isn't able to take any of our staff with him (especially Kromer). I think he'd do well with the offensive talent on that team.
 

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I gotta also say that it feels nice to not be talking about firing our HC!
 

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I will believe it when I see it. MAybe he would do it for one last big payday. Maybe he and his agent are dangling the carrot to see how much Tampa would pay for his services. Otherwise, he is in the rumor mill every year; Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, Georgia and a couple NFL teams who fire heir head coach.

I don't know what he gets paid. I know guys like Sapp were getting around half a mil on NFL Network. Gruden isn't an everyday talk show guy but he has to be worth more than a Sapp doesn't he? So is it safe to assume he makes a million or three a year? He has a cushy job, gets to go home for supper and has social time if he wants. How much is it worth to coax him back to the head coaching grind? That would be difficult to return to after being out of it for so long. Very difficult.
 

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I will believe it when I see it. MAybe he would do it for one last big payday. Maybe he and his agent are dangling the carrot to see how much Tampa would pay for his services. Otherwise, he is in the rumor mill every year; Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, Georgia and a couple NFL teams who fire heir head coach.

I don't know what he gets paid. I know guys like Sapp were getting around have a mil on NFL Network. Gruden isn't an everyday talk show guy but he has to be worth more than a Sapp doesn't he? So is it safe to assume he makes a million a year? He has a cushy job, gets to go home for supper and has social time if he wants. How much is it worth to coax him back to the head coaching grind? That would be difficult to return to after being out of it for so long. Very difficult.

I think he's getting paid like $7 million per year.
 

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I have a feeling Gruden would steal some of our offensive staff if he came back.

Why the Rams offensive staff? And why do you think the Rams assistants would jump at the chance to leave. How is Gruden so much better than working with McVay? It's not like this is a sinking ship. It see m s like a great gig. Based on what we have read and seen in interviews, McVay is a popular coach. He is respected and likeable. He has a great coaching style and is a great motivator. His arrow is pointing straight up.


I'd love for him to return to TB, but I hope he isn't able to take any of our staff with him (especially Kromer). I think he'd do well with the offensive talent on that team.

Again, why? This LA thing is going pretty well. Seems like McVay has created a great atmosphere to work in. And why Kromer specifically? I would never trade cool, breezy Southern California, for hot, humid Tampa Bay. Plus the Rams could block a lateral move and Kroenke could afford to get in a bidding war.


I think it was @Selassie I that was rehashing Gruden's time in Tampa. It was not all glitter and roses. He seemed to have unhappy players and didn't mind throwing them under the bus. This Gruden thing is like a fantasy. It reminds me of Parcells, but I don't think he can duplicate what Parcells did.
 

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I think he's getting paid like $7 million per year.

Wow. Then going back to coaching isn't going to make a huge difference in his bank account. He may have trouble getting that much as a coach, who has been away for nine years.

Seems the only motivation would be the love of coaching, but it would be quite the lifestyle change, for the same money....or less.